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Re: Overdoses, leading cause of death of Americans under 50

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 2:10 pm
by DAEBO
Foo wrote:
Jmac Attack wrote:
Foo wrote:
Reign in Blood wrote:Dudeamis Primes, breathing the fucking air is abuse by these standards. I see people jogging on the sidewalk just breathing in all the wonderful toxins from the cars passing by everyday.

Live and let live.

The human race is gonna break this planet into submission, crusaders can fight it all they want, it's inevitable.
People can snort starter fluid for all I care, as long as I am not left paying for the consequences.

Usually what happens is people make stupid, selfish choices, and then when it blows up on them, we are suddenly a big community that should help each other.

"Steve the town drunk just had a heart attack and kidney failure, let's set up a gofundme and do a benefit concert...at a bar."

Steve the town drunk probably started drinking when he was a kid, though. Probably had parents that drank. Etc. We can go circles with the hypotheticals.


And Steve will have addict kids. When do we break the cycle instead of acting like Steve is a cool guy for being at the bar all the time?

Jealous?

Re: Overdoses, leading cause of death of Americans under 50

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 2:11 pm
by Foo
Jmac Attack wrote:Opiates are only supposed to be for the short term. I know people that have been on them for years. Why is that? There is more to it than just saying they should have known better. The doctor deserves as much the blame. Yeah, a lot of us are smart enough to realize doctors make mistakes and takes shits like the rest of us, but people put a lot of faith into their doctors.
I need the Oxys for my fibromyalgia, weed for my glaucoma, and alcohol for my nerves. Everything will be fine, because my dr gave me pills for the month.

Re: Overdoses, leading cause of death of Americans under 50

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 2:12 pm
by Jmac Attack
Foo wrote:
Jmac Attack wrote:
Foo wrote:
Reign in Blood wrote:Dudeamis Primes, breathing the fucking air is abuse by these standards. I see people jogging on the sidewalk just breathing in all the wonderful toxins from the cars passing by everyday.

Live and let live.

The human race is gonna break this planet into submission, crusaders can fight it all they want, it's inevitable.
People can snort starter fluid for all I care, as long as I am not left paying for the consequences.

Usually what happens is people make stupid, selfish choices, and then when it blows up on them, we are suddenly a big community that should help each other.

"Steve the town drunk just had a heart attack and kidney failure, let's set up a gofundme and do a benefit concert...at a bar."

Steve the town drunk probably started drinking when he was a kid, though. Probably had parents that drank. Etc. We can go circles with the hypotheticals.
And Steve will have addict kids. When do we break the cycle instead of acting like Steve is a cool guy for being at the bar all the time?
Where did I say that though? And everyone knows if ya want the good stuff, you go to the kids at the bible schools. That's the truth. Preachers kids are always the go to.

Re: Overdoses, leading cause of death of Americans under 50

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 2:12 pm
by DAEBO
Foo wrote:
Jmac Attack wrote:Opiates are only supposed to be for the short term. I know people that have been on them for years. Why is that? There is more to it than just saying they should have known better. The doctor deserves as much the blame. Yeah, a lot of us are smart enough to realize doctors make mistakes and takes shits like the rest of us, but people put a lot of faith into their doctors.
I need the Oxys for my fibromyalgia, weed for my glaucoma, and alcohol for my nerves. Everything will be fine, because my dr gave me pills for the month.
I hear that ALL day.

Re: Overdoses, leading cause of death of Americans under 50

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 2:14 pm
by DAEBO
Jmac Attack wrote:
Foo wrote:
Jmac Attack wrote:
Foo wrote:
Reign in Blood wrote:Dudeamis Primes, breathing the fucking air is abuse by these standards. I see people jogging on the sidewalk just breathing in all the wonderful toxins from the cars passing by everyday.

Live and let live.

The human race is gonna break this planet into submission, crusaders can fight it all they want, it's inevitable.
People can snort starter fluid for all I care, as long as I am not left paying for the consequences.

Usually what happens is people make stupid, selfish choices, and then when it blows up on them, we are suddenly a big community that should help each other.

"Steve the town drunk just had a heart attack and kidney failure, let's set up a gofundme and do a benefit concert...at a bar."

Steve the town drunk probably started drinking when he was a kid, though. Probably had parents that drank. Etc. We can go circles with the hypotheticals.
And Steve will have addict kids. When do we break the cycle instead of acting like Steve is a cool guy for being at the bar all the time?
Where did I say that though? And everyone knows if ya want the good stuff, you go to the kids at the bible schools. That's the truth. Preachers kids are always the go to.
That is a good point. Restriction does make said item more desirable.

Re: Overdoses, leading cause of death of Americans under 50

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 2:14 pm
by Jmac Attack
Foo wrote:
Jmac Attack wrote:Opiates are only supposed to be for the short term. I know people that have been on them for years. Why is that? There is more to it than just saying they should have known better. The doctor deserves as much the blame. Yeah, a lot of us are smart enough to realize doctors make mistakes and takes shits like the rest of us, but people put a lot of faith into their doctors.
I need the Oxys for my fibromyalgia, weed for my glaucoma, and alcohol for my nerves. Everything will be fine, because my dr gave me pills for the month.
Weed actually does help with glaucoma and if vaped or eaten, it's harmless. Do you take tylenol? I remember when I worked for Medco (Merk) all of the pharmacists said it's literally the worst drug for your body.......it just doesn't get you high.

Re: Overdoses, leading cause of death of Americans under 50

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 2:16 pm
by DAEBO
Jmac Attack wrote:
Foo wrote:
Jmac Attack wrote:Opiates are only supposed to be for the short term. I know people that have been on them for years. Why is that? There is more to it than just saying they should have known better. The doctor deserves as much the blame. Yeah, a lot of us are smart enough to realize doctors make mistakes and takes shits like the rest of us, but people put a lot of faith into their doctors.
I need the Oxys for my fibromyalgia, weed for my glaucoma, and alcohol for my nerves. Everything will be fine, because my dr gave me pills for the month.
Weed actually does help with glaucoma and if vaped or eaten, it's harmless. Do you take tylenol? I remember when I worked for Medco (Merk) all of the pharmacists said it's literally the worst drug for your body.......it just doesn't get you high.
It is awful on the liver. I don't touch the stuff.

Re: Overdoses, leading cause of death of Americans under 50

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 2:19 pm
by Jmac Attack
Isn't it weird that in the last 20 years, there are more drug commercials on tv than cola commercials? I could be wrong, but I don't remember prescription drug commercials growing up. The RX companies can advertise and sell that shit, then give doctors kick backs. Foo should be raging against that machine too. But there are profits involved, which makes it seem more ok!

Re: Overdoses, leading cause of death of Americans under 50

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 2:19 pm
by Foo
DAEBO wrote:
Foo wrote:
Jmac Attack wrote:
Foo wrote:
Reign in Blood wrote:Dudeamis Primes, breathing the fucking air is abuse by these standards. I see people jogging on the sidewalk just breathing in all the wonderful toxins from the cars passing by everyday.

Live and let live.

The human race is gonna break this planet into submission, crusaders can fight it all they want, it's inevitable.
People can snort starter fluid for all I care, as long as I am not left paying for the consequences.

Usually what happens is people make stupid, selfish choices, and then when it blows up on them, we are suddenly a big community that should help each other.

"Steve the town drunk just had a heart attack and kidney failure, let's set up a gofundme and do a benefit concert...at a bar."

Steve the town drunk probably started drinking when he was a kid, though. Probably had parents that drank. Etc. We can go circles with the hypotheticals.


And Steve will have addict kids. When do we break the cycle instead of acting like Steve is a cool guy for being at the bar all the time?

Jealous?
Maybe?

I work hard. I am gonna be responsible for millions going towards the tax system in my lifetime. Knowing a disproportionate portion of my pre-tax income is going to losers making willful choices to be losers instead of my family is troubling. I worked 40 of 48 hours on Friday and Saturday. Knowing that even 10 minutes of that went to support people like Steve the drunk instead of my future family is unacceptable to me.

Re: Overdoses, leading cause of death of Americans under 50

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 2:20 pm
by Jmac Attack
DAEBO wrote:
Jmac Attack wrote:
Foo wrote:
Jmac Attack wrote:Opiates are only supposed to be for the short term. I know people that have been on them for years. Why is that? There is more to it than just saying they should have known better. The doctor deserves as much the blame. Yeah, a lot of us are smart enough to realize doctors make mistakes and takes shits like the rest of us, but people put a lot of faith into their doctors.
I need the Oxys for my fibromyalgia, weed for my glaucoma, and alcohol for my nerves. Everything will be fine, because my dr gave me pills for the month.
Weed actually does help with glaucoma and if vaped or eaten, it's harmless. Do you take tylenol? I remember when I worked for Medco (Merk) all of the pharmacists said it's literally the worst drug for your body.......it just doesn't get you high.
It is awful on the liver. I don't touch the stuff.
You can't even have more than three beers!

Re: Overdoses, leading cause of death of Americans under 50

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 2:21 pm
by DAEBO
Jmac Attack wrote:Isn't it weird that in the last 20 years, there are more drug commercials on tv than cola commercials? I could be wrong, but I don't remember prescription drug commercials growing up. The RX companies can advertise and sell that shit, then give doctors kick backs. Foo should be raging against that machine too. But there are profits involved, which makes it seem more ok!

That didn't happen until about 20 years ago. Claratin with the bee was the first one. There was a law against it but then it was removed.

Re: Overdoses, leading cause of death of Americans under 50

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 2:21 pm
by Foo
Jmac Attack wrote:
Foo wrote:
Jmac Attack wrote:Opiates are only supposed to be for the short term. I know people that have been on them for years. Why is that? There is more to it than just saying they should have known better. The doctor deserves as much the blame. Yeah, a lot of us are smart enough to realize doctors make mistakes and takes shits like the rest of us, but people put a lot of faith into their doctors.
I need the Oxys for my fibromyalgia, weed for my glaucoma, and alcohol for my nerves. Everything will be fine, because my dr gave me pills for the month.
Weed actually does help with glaucoma and if vaped or eaten, it's harmless. Do you take tylenol? I remember when I worked for Medco (Merk) all of the pharmacists said it's literally the worst drug for your body.......it just doesn't get you high.
How did you determine it is harmless?

I take vitamins and caffeine. I am not proud of the caffeine, but I don't expect others to pay for the consequences of it.

Re: Overdoses, leading cause of death of Americans under 50

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 2:23 pm
by Jmac Attack
Foo wrote:
DAEBO wrote:
Foo wrote:
Jmac Attack wrote:
Foo wrote:
Reign in Blood wrote:Dudeamis Primes, breathing the fucking air is abuse by these standards. I see people jogging on the sidewalk just breathing in all the wonderful toxins from the cars passing by everyday.

Live and let live.

The human race is gonna break this planet into submission, crusaders can fight it all they want, it's inevitable.
People can snort starter fluid for all I care, as long as I am not left paying for the consequences.

Usually what happens is people make stupid, selfish choices, and then when it blows up on them, we are suddenly a big community that should help each other.

"Steve the town drunk just had a heart attack and kidney failure, let's set up a gofundme and do a benefit concert...at a bar."

Steve the town drunk probably started drinking when he was a kid, though. Probably had parents that drank. Etc. We can go circles with the hypotheticals.


And Steve will have addict kids. When do we break the cycle instead of acting like Steve is a cool guy for being at the bar all the time?

Jealous?
Maybe?

I work hard. I am gonna be responsible for millions going towards the tax system in my lifetime. Knowing a disproportionate portion of my pre-tax income is going to losers making willful choices to be losers instead of my family is troubling. I worked 40 of 48 hours on Friday and Saturday. Knowing that even 10 minutes of that went to support people like Steve the drunk instead of my future family is unacceptable to me.
I just hope your kids never make stupid kid mistakes.......it's a crapshoot ya know. do your best, and put them in the best position to make better decisions.

Re: Overdoses, leading cause of death of Americans under 50

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 2:23 pm
by Foo
Jmac Attack wrote:Isn't it weird that in the last 20 years, there are more drug commercials on tv than cola commercials? I could be wrong, but I don't remember prescription drug commercials growing up. The RX companies can advertise and sell that shit, then give doctors kick backs. Foo should be raging against that machine too. But there are profits involved, which makes it seem more ok!
Why should I be raging against them? They are selling a product. No different than someone selling spray on hair to me. Other things, like the government subsidizing it are when it become problematic for me.

Re: Overdoses, leading cause of death of Americans under 50

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 2:23 pm
by DAEBO
Foo wrote:
Jmac Attack wrote:
Foo wrote:
Jmac Attack wrote:Opiates are only supposed to be for the short term. I know people that have been on them for years. Why is that? There is more to it than just saying they should have known better. The doctor deserves as much the blame. Yeah, a lot of us are smart enough to realize doctors make mistakes and takes shits like the rest of us, but people put a lot of faith into their doctors.
I need the Oxys for my fibromyalgia, weed for my glaucoma, and alcohol for my nerves. Everything will be fine, because my dr gave me pills for the month.
Weed actually does help with glaucoma and if vaped or eaten, it's harmless. Do you take tylenol? I remember when I worked for Medco (Merk) all of the pharmacists said it's literally the worst drug for your body.......it just doesn't get you high.
How did you determine it is harmless?

I take vitamins and caffeine. I am not proud of the caffeine, but I don't expect others to pay for the consequences of it.

Weed is downright useful, it's actually used in medicine.

http://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-8774/ ... al/details

Re: Overdoses, leading cause of death of Americans under 50

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 2:24 pm
by Jmac Attack
Foo wrote:
Jmac Attack wrote:
Foo wrote:
Jmac Attack wrote:Opiates are only supposed to be for the short term. I know people that have been on them for years. Why is that? There is more to it than just saying they should have known better. The doctor deserves as much the blame. Yeah, a lot of us are smart enough to realize doctors make mistakes and takes shits like the rest of us, but people put a lot of faith into their doctors.
I need the Oxys for my fibromyalgia, weed for my glaucoma, and alcohol for my nerves. Everything will be fine, because my dr gave me pills for the month.
Weed actually does help with glaucoma and if vaped or eaten, it's harmless. Do you take tylenol? I remember when I worked for Medco (Merk) all of the pharmacists said it's literally the worst drug for your body.......it just doesn't get you high.
How did you determine it is harmless?

I take vitamins and caffeine. I am not proud of the caffeine, but I don't expect others to pay for the consequences of it.
Nothing is 100% harmless. But you get what I mean.

Re: Overdoses, leading cause of death of Americans under 50

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 2:25 pm
by Jmac Attack
Foo wrote:
Jmac Attack wrote:Isn't it weird that in the last 20 years, there are more drug commercials on tv than cola commercials? I could be wrong, but I don't remember prescription drug commercials growing up. The RX companies can advertise and sell that shit, then give doctors kick backs. Foo should be raging against that machine too. But there are profits involved, which makes it seem more ok!
Why should I be raging against them? They are selling a product. No different than someone selling spray on hair to me. Other things, like the government subsidizing it are when it become problematic for me.
Exactly my point in the last line of my post.

Re: Overdoses, leading cause of death of Americans under 50

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 2:26 pm
by DAEBO
Foo wrote:
DAEBO wrote:
Foo wrote:
Jmac Attack wrote:
Foo wrote:
Reign in Blood wrote:Dudeamis Primes, breathing the fucking air is abuse by these standards. I see people jogging on the sidewalk just breathing in all the wonderful toxins from the cars passing by everyday.

Live and let live.

The human race is gonna break this planet into submission, crusaders can fight it all they want, it's inevitable.
People can snort starter fluid for all I care, as long as I am not left paying for the consequences.

Usually what happens is people make stupid, selfish choices, and then when it blows up on them, we are suddenly a big community that should help each other.

"Steve the town drunk just had a heart attack and kidney failure, let's set up a gofundme and do a benefit concert...at a bar."

Steve the town drunk probably started drinking when he was a kid, though. Probably had parents that drank. Etc. We can go circles with the hypotheticals.


And Steve will have addict kids. When do we break the cycle instead of acting like Steve is a cool guy for being at the bar all the time?

Jealous?
Maybe?

I work hard. I am gonna be responsible for millions going towards the tax system in my lifetime. Knowing a disproportionate portion of my pre-tax income is going to losers making willful choices to be losers instead of my family is troubling. I worked 40 of 48 hours on Friday and Saturday. Knowing that even 10 minutes of that went to support people like Steve the drunk instead of my future family is unacceptable to me.

Do you actually know Steve?

Re: Overdoses, leading cause of death of Americans under 50

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 2:27 pm
by Foo
Jmac Attack wrote:
Foo wrote:
DAEBO wrote:
Foo wrote:
Jmac Attack wrote:
Foo wrote:
Reign in Blood wrote:Dudeamis Primes, breathing the fucking air is abuse by these standards. I see people jogging on the sidewalk just breathing in all the wonderful toxins from the cars passing by everyday.

Live and let live.

The human race is gonna break this planet into submission, crusaders can fight it all they want, it's inevitable.
People can snort starter fluid for all I care, as long as I am not left paying for the consequences.

Usually what happens is people make stupid, selfish choices, and then when it blows up on them, we are suddenly a big community that should help each other.

"Steve the town drunk just had a heart attack and kidney failure, let's set up a gofundme and do a benefit concert...at a bar."

Steve the town drunk probably started drinking when he was a kid, though. Probably had parents that drank. Etc. We can go circles with the hypotheticals.


And Steve will have addict kids. When do we break the cycle instead of acting like Steve is a cool guy for being at the bar all the time?

Jealous?
Maybe?

I work hard. I am gonna be responsible for millions going towards the tax system in my lifetime. Knowing a disproportionate portion of my pre-tax income is going to losers making willful choices to be losers instead of my family is troubling. I worked 40 of 48 hours on Friday and Saturday. Knowing that even 10 minutes of that went to support people like Steve the drunk instead of my future family is unacceptable to me.
I just hope your kids never make stupid kid mistakes.......it's a crapshoot ya know. do your best, and put them in the best position to make better decisions.
It is far from a crapshoot. Crapshoot implies it is luck. If you are blessed with a healthy child, luck is such a tiny part of it. Lead by example.

Is it coincidence my parents both worked constantly and never took sick days? Is it coincidence that they rarely drank? Is it coincidence they were entrepreneurs?

Re: Overdoses, leading cause of death of Americans under 50

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 2:27 pm
by Foo
DAEBO wrote:
Foo wrote:
DAEBO wrote:
Foo wrote:
Jmac Attack wrote:
Foo wrote:
Reign in Blood wrote:Dudeamis Primes, breathing the fucking air is abuse by these standards. I see people jogging on the sidewalk just breathing in all the wonderful toxins from the cars passing by everyday.

Live and let live.

The human race is gonna break this planet into submission, crusaders can fight it all they want, it's inevitable.
People can snort starter fluid for all I care, as long as I am not left paying for the consequences.

Usually what happens is people make stupid, selfish choices, and then when it blows up on them, we are suddenly a big community that should help each other.

"Steve the town drunk just had a heart attack and kidney failure, let's set up a gofundme and do a benefit concert...at a bar."

Steve the town drunk probably started drinking when he was a kid, though. Probably had parents that drank. Etc. We can go circles with the hypotheticals.


And Steve will have addict kids. When do we break the cycle instead of acting like Steve is a cool guy for being at the bar all the time?

Jealous?
Maybe?

I work hard. I am gonna be responsible for millions going towards the tax system in my lifetime. Knowing a disproportionate portion of my pre-tax income is going to losers making willful choices to be losers instead of my family is troubling. I worked 40 of 48 hours on Friday and Saturday. Knowing that even 10 minutes of that went to support people like Steve the drunk instead of my future family is unacceptable to me.

Do you actually know Steve?
I know several Steves.