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Headhunter wrote:

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:The fact remains that you don't care if cops make mistakes that affect innocent people. My argument has been that more deserving candidates who are better at their jobs should take the jobs of fuck ups like these guys. Why do you want a weaker and less effective police force? Lot of people would love to have the opportunities these guys threw away.

One mistake, which could be the only mistake ever for this force as far as we know, is not enough to ruin their lives and the lives of their families who rely on them for support. Sorry. All over weaksauce kicktaps that did zero damage. Cry more.

If you want to take care of your family...do your job well! Sorry, losers get no mercy. They should have thought about their families before they nabbed the wrong guy and kicked the shit out of them. That's called personal responsibility.

Cry more about their families who they didn't care enough about to do their jobs well.

"Kicked the shit out of"

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote: Cool? Has nothing to do with the argument we're having. All you're doing is excusing behavior of bad cops, which helps nobody.

If anyone is excusing anyone of anything, it's you dingbat libs and your tendency to brush off criminals.

Nope, nobody did that once in this thread. That's a manufactured straw man by you. I said four or five times the criminal should suffer and you continue to pretend I haven't made this clear.

You also said the criminal didn't deserve what the victim got. Which was practically nothing.
I say he deserves a bullet in the brain. I guess we differ there. You'd focus most of your energy on disarming the police force.

Yes, they didn't deserve to be kicked while subdued. They do deserve to have the book thrown out at them. Remember, the justice system and your Wild West fantasy cop world aren't the same.

For the seventh time, btw, I'd make sure both the criminal and cops are held accountable to the fullest extent. If isn't an either/or scenario.

So would I.

Criminal: Bullet in brain saves taxpayer money. $1 bullet. No jail time. Easy peezy.
Police: Make sure it's the criminal you're lightly kicktapping next time.

Why do you keep repeating what you'd do? You've said it like five times. Yes, you're fine with cops being bad at their jobs. We know.

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:The fact remains that you don't care if cops make mistakes that affect innocent people. My argument has been that more deserving candidates who are better at their jobs should take the jobs of fuck ups like these guys. Why do you want a weaker and less effective police force? Lot of people would love to have the opportunities these guys threw away.

One mistake, which could be the only mistake ever for this force as far as we know, is not enough to ruin their lives and the lives of their families who rely on them for support. Sorry. All over weaksauce kicktaps that did zero damage. Cry more.

If you want to take care of your family...do your job well! Sorry, losers get no mercy. They should have thought about their families before they nabbed the wrong guy and kicked the shit out of them. That's called personal responsibility.

Cry more about their families who they didn't care enough about to do their jobs well.

"Kicked the shit out of"

You literally have no argument, so make it about semantics.

Headhunter wrote:

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote: Cool? Has nothing to do with the argument we're having. All you're doing is excusing behavior of bad cops, which helps nobody.

If anyone is excusing anyone of anything, it's you dingbat libs and your tendency to brush off criminals.

Nope, nobody did that once in this thread. That's a manufactured straw man by you. I said four or five times the criminal should suffer and you continue to pretend I haven't made this clear.

You also said the criminal didn't deserve what the victim got. Which was practically nothing.
I say he deserves a bullet in the brain. I guess we differ there. You'd focus most of your energy on disarming the police force.

Yes, they didn't deserve to be kicked while subdued. They do deserve to have the book thrown out at them. Remember, the justice system and your Wild West fantasy cop world aren't the same.

For the seventh time, btw, I'd make sure both the criminal and cops are held accountable to the fullest extent. If isn't an either/or scenario.

So would I.

Criminal: Bullet in brain saves taxpayer money. $1 bullet. No jail time. Easy peezy.
Police: Make sure it's the criminal you're lightly kicktapping next time.

Why do you keep repeating what you'd do? You've said it like five times. Yes, you're fine with cops being bad at their jobs. We know.

You insist on repeating what you'd do. "For the 3rd time", "For the 4th time", "For the 5th time", "For the 6th time", "For the 7th time".

The cops were bad here. Mostly because they suck at kicking.

zombie wrote:if the criminal is not being punished for his actions, then show me? make a thread about it? and you'll see that everyone agrees that he needs to be accountable.

until then, can we move on from that stupid troll job of an argument?

This.

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote: Cool? Has nothing to do with the argument we're having. All you're doing is excusing behavior of bad cops, which helps nobody.

If anyone is excusing anyone of anything, it's you dingbat libs and your tendency to brush off criminals.

Nope, nobody did that once in this thread. That's a manufactured straw man by you. I said four or five times the criminal should suffer and you continue to pretend I haven't made this clear.

You also said the criminal didn't deserve what the victim got. Which was practically nothing.
I say he deserves a bullet in the brain. I guess we differ there. You'd focus most of your energy on disarming the police force.

Yes, they didn't deserve to be kicked while subdued. They do deserve to have the book thrown out at them. Remember, the justice system and your Wild West fantasy cop world aren't the same.

For the seventh time, btw, I'd make sure both the criminal and cops are held accountable to the fullest extent. If isn't an either/or scenario.

So would I.

Criminal: Bullet in brain saves taxpayer money. $1 bullet. No jail time. Easy peezy.
Police: Make sure it's the criminal you're lightly kicktapping next time.

Why do you keep repeating what you'd do? You've said it like five times. Yes, you're fine with cops being bad at their jobs. We know.

You insist on repeating what you'd do. "For the 3rd time", "For the 3rd4th time", "For the 5th time", "For the 6th time", "For the 7th time".

The cops were bad here. Mostly because they suck at kicking.

Uh yeah, because you keep making the bullshit straw man that I wouldn't hold the criminal accountable, hence why I had to clarify. I was never confused on your position of not caring that the cops kicked you, so there was no need for you to clarify. See the difference?

Headhunter wrote:

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:The fact remains that you don't care if cops make mistakes that affect innocent people. My argument has been that more deserving candidates who are better at their jobs should take the jobs of fuck ups like these guys. Why do you want a weaker and less effective police force? Lot of people would love to have the opportunities these guys threw away.

One mistake, which could be the only mistake ever for this force as far as we know, is not enough to ruin their lives and the lives of their families who rely on them for support. Sorry. All over weaksauce kicktaps that did zero damage. Cry more.

If you want to take care of your family...do your job well! Sorry, losers get no mercy. They should have thought about their families before they nabbed the wrong guy and kicked the shit out of them. That's called personal responsibility.

Cry more about their families who they didn't care enough about to do their jobs well.

"Kicked the shit out of"

You literally have no argument, so make it about semantics.

There is no argument to be made. Honest police mistake. People insist on crying about the police 24/7 in today's wussy society, so it's going to get spread all over liberal news and they're gonna lose their jobs. Criminal will likely receive little to no jail time the lives of an entire police force and their families are ruined. Justice system!

Jason, explain why choosing not to hold the police accountable means that the criminal would serve a longer term in prison, since you continue to insist that the criminal will only serve six months while you press charges against the police. As I see it, either way the criminal gets off too light. But in my scenario, at least there's justice for bad policing.

Headhunter wrote:

zombie wrote:if the criminal is not being punished for his actions, then show me? make a thread about it? and you'll see that everyone agrees that he needs to be accountable.

until then, can we move on from that stupid troll job of an argument?

This.

Where the hell did Zomb post this?

Anyway, I can't make a thread on the criminal. I'd have to sift through articles only to find that he was "apprehended". By the time all this blows over, the media will be done with it and the criminal is probably back on the streets.

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:The fact remains that you don't care if cops make mistakes that affect innocent people. My argument has been that more deserving candidates who are better at their jobs should take the jobs of fuck ups like these guys. Why do you want a weaker and less effective police force? Lot of people would love to have the opportunities these guys threw away.

One mistake, which could be the only mistake ever for this force as far as we know, is not enough to ruin their lives and the lives of their families who rely on them for support. Sorry. All over weaksauce kicktaps that did zero damage. Cry more.

If you want to take care of your family...do your job well! Sorry, losers get no mercy. They should have thought about their families before they nabbed the wrong guy and kicked the shit out of them. That's called personal responsibility.

Cry more about their families who they didn't care enough about to do their jobs well.

"Kicked the shit out of"

You literally have no argument, so make it about semantics.

There is no argument to be made. Honest police mistake. People insist on crying about the police 24/7 in today's wussy society, so it's going to get spread all over liberal news and they're gonna lose their jobs. Criminal will likely receive little to no jail time the lives of an entire police force and their families are ruined. Justice system!

You have not made one legit argument in the last 4-5 pages bro. And "honest mistakes" by police officers doesn't mean you don't take responsibility for your actions. Are they 5 year olds or public servants? I expect a higher standard.

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

zombie wrote:if the criminal is not being punished for his actions, then show me? make a thread about it? and you'll see that everyone agrees that he needs to be accountable.

until then, can we move on from that stupid troll job of an argument?

This.

Where the hell did Zomb post this?

Anyway, I can't make a thread on the criminal. I'd have to sift through articles only to find that he was "apprehended". By the time all this blows over, the media will be done with it and the criminal is probably back on the streets.

So do we need to explain to you, one by one, that we think the criminal's actions were actually bad and deserve punishment? Because you keep pointing to someone excusing the criminal behavior, but I must have missed those posts.

Your argument: police should not be held responsible for their actions
My argument: police should be held responsible for their actions

In a nutshell.

Headhunter wrote:Jason, explain why choosing not to hold the police accountable means that the criminal would serve a longer term in prison, since you continue to insist that the criminal will only serve six months while you press charges against the police. As I see it, either way the criminal gets off too light. But in my scenario, at least there's justice for bad policing.

Explain to me what actual harm the police did at all? I choose not to hold them accountable, because they did zero damage to the victim. Zero. You repeatedly called it "kicking the shit out of", while I call it wussy kicktapping. Don't pretend like those kicktaps did any harm to the dude. They thought he was the criminal for a minute. Did no harm to the victim. There is nothing to even fake outrage about. Their job is EXTREMELY difficult and they get paid shit for the sacrifices they make. The only one who should be held accountable for anything is the criminal for being the sole reason any of this even happened.

Headhunter wrote:

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

zombie wrote:if the criminal is not being punished for his actions, then show me? make a thread about it? and you'll see that everyone agrees that he needs to be accountable.

until then, can we move on from that stupid troll job of an argument?

This.

Where the hell did Zomb post this?

Anyway, I can't make a thread on the criminal. I'd have to sift through articles only to find that he was "apprehended". By the time all this blows over, the media will be done with it and the criminal is probably back on the streets.

So do we need to explain to you, one by one, that we think the criminal's actions were actually bad and deserve punishment? Because you keep pointing to someone excusing the criminal behavior, but I must have missed those posts.

Never said you were "excusing" the criminal's behavior. You are "dismissing" the criminal's behavior in favor of fake outrage over the police.

Headhunter wrote:Your argument: police should not be held responsible for their actions
My argument: police should be held responsible for their actions

In a nutshell.

That's a pretty spot on liberal generalization. Well done.

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:Jason, explain why choosing not to hold the police accountable means that the criminal would serve a longer term in prison, since you continue to insist that the criminal will only serve six months while you press charges against the police. As I see it, either way the criminal gets off too light. But in my scenario, at least there's justice for bad policing.

Explain to me what actual harm the police did at all? I choose not to hold them accountable, because they did zero damage to the victim. Zero. You repeatedly called it "kicking the shit out of", while I call it wussy kicktapping. Don't pretend like those kicktaps did any harm to the dude. They thought he was the criminal for a minute. Did no harm to the victim. There is nothing to even fake outrage about. Their job is EXTREMELY difficult and they get paid shit for the sacrifices they make. The only one who should be held accountable for anything is the criminal for being the sole reason any of this even happened.

Every job has challenges. On a daily basis. We're all expected to perform and the minute we don't, it can all be taken away. Why should it be any different for them? They aren't exempt from accountability because they carry a gun.

Don't pretend it matters how "hard" he was kicked, this isn't an MMA thread and not a time for you to bro out and act like a tough guy. That's assault, period. The criminal is not responsible for the cops' failures, that's on the cops. They should have cared more about the well being of their familie before they botched their assignment and assaulted an innocent man.

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:Your argument: police should not be held responsible for their actions
My argument: police should be held responsible for their actions

In a nutshell.

That's a pretty spot on liberal generalization. Well done.

You do nothing but generalize about liberals, lmao

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

zombie wrote:if the criminal is not being punished for his actions, then show me? make a thread about it? and you'll see that everyone agrees that he needs to be accountable.

until then, can we move on from that stupid troll job of an argument?

This.

Where the hell did Zomb post this?

Anyway, I can't make a thread on the criminal. I'd have to sift through articles only to find that he was "apprehended". By the time all this blows over, the media will be done with it and the criminal is probably back on the streets.

So do we need to explain to you, one by one, that we think the criminal's actions were actually bad and deserve punishment? Because you keep pointing to someone excusing the criminal behavior, but I must have missed those posts.

Never said you were "excusing" the criminal's behavior. You are "dismissing" the criminal's behavior in favor of fake outrage over the police.

What's this thread about, Jason? What's the title? What are the contents of the video?

LOL @ pretending we're deflecting from the story when the story was about the cop. Again, do you want another thread about the criminal so you can rate how outraged each of us are about what he did? Go ahead, let's get it out of the way.

sorry for expecting accountability from police.

the london bridge cop was a hero. these cops were fuckasses. police come in all stripes. and that's where i have to leave it tonight.

zombie wrote:sorry for expecting accountability from police.

the london bridge cop was a hero. these cops were fuckasses. police come in all stripes. and that's where i have to leave it tonight.

Nope, you can't distinguish between good cops and bad ones. If you have a problem with one, you're attacking all of them. No room for nuance.