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Re: Trump and the tax code simplification

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:07 pm
by Foo
Headhunter wrote:
Foo wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Foo wrote:
Headhunter wrote:The trickle down con is the gift that keeps on giving. This country is so fucking dumb. :lol:
Yeah, we know. We are just waiting for you to lead the way. Everyone is dumb but you. Unless we are allowing tranny men in ladies rooms, them we are on the correct path to enlightenment.
Aren't we sensitive today. Poor baby.

Do you have a tranny fetish or something? You sure can't take your mind off them. :lol:
I am sensitive every day. This is why I take the time to learn about people and how to help them.

No tranny fetish. Do you fetishize dumb people?
Nobody but you here cares about your tranny fetish. You seem constantly offended by my sentiments about this country being full of idiots though, like it's tapping into your own insecurities. You're not dumb, you just love to cape for dumb people.
I care about people. It is not like I don't mind calling them out but I am not going to call the greatest nation that has ever existed and the sole superpower in the world "Dumb", because they want to implement a more competitive tax policy for companies that do business there, nor am I going to run away because my person is not in charge. I am gonna stay and make the best life I can and be happy.

Re: Trump and the tax code simplification

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:12 pm
by Headhunter
Good for you. This country is dumb as fuck and I'm going to live a better life abroad. We all have our priorities.

Re: Trump and the tax code simplification

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:15 pm
by Jason
Can't believe Head's hatred for Trump is making him leave the entire country.

Re: Trump and the tax code simplification

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:22 pm
by Foo
Headhunter wrote:Good for you. This country is dumb as fuck and I'm going to live a better life abroad. We all have our priorities.
Did you see my question about Ron Paul? You were his strongest supporter when he was advocating an even deeper corporate tax cut.

Re: Trump and the tax code simplification

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:31 pm
by showa58taro
Foo wrote:
showa58taro wrote:
Foo wrote:
showa58taro wrote:
Foo wrote:
showa58taro wrote:
Foo wrote:If you hate people keeping more of what they earn, you probably have issues.

You cannot give tax cuts to people who do not pay taxes in the first place. So of course tax cuts will disproportionately favor payers over non-payers. 95% of the whiners don't pay taxes, but think they do.
I just prefer if it was honestly framed.
I just did honestly frame it. You can't cut taxes for people don't pay them.

Since many, many people work for corporations, giving corporate tax cuts means the corporations are in better position, and thusly, more money available for investment and pay, while also enhancing long term stability.

When you say "the rich", where is the honesty? I wasn't aware the family making payments on a Kia and having special dinners at Olive Garden were considered "the rich".
There you go with the dishonesty. There’s no real link between lower corporate taxes and wage increases. It’s a myth debunked a thousand times over. More bullshit and lies.
If you have more money to spend are you able to pay your employees more than you would if you have less money to spend?

I run a corporation. I can tell you for a fact, the money we have after taxes influences what we are able to pay employees. It is not a difficult concept.

To understand the implications of a corporate tax cut, you have to understand the basics of how an economy works and stop worrying so much about the guy next to you who has more than you.
I audited countless corporations in the UK when the corporation tax rates were cut consistently every year. I can say with absolute certainty there is no link between corporation tax cuts and wage increases.
The UK has about a million other issues offsetting those cuts. No one wants to invest there. We are talking about the US.

The UK was too late in just trying to be competitive with their taxes. They lost so much business to the world and no one really trusts them to maintain the rate cuts. In fact, they are not even fully phased in and the political tide is already turning to phase them out.
Fine. Stay with the US and you can’t find an example of it working either. Also, you are basically saying your anecdote about a food truck proves your point but my example of multiple multinationals isn’t.

Plus the question was about wage increases, not generating new business.

Generating new business is the exact opposite of what this bill doesgivrn the incentives to offshore more business and reduce investment in the US.

Re: Trump and the tax code simplification

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:31 pm
by Foo
Jason wrote:Can't believe Head's hatred for Trump is making him leave the entire country.
It is those damn tweets!

Re: Trump and the tax code simplification

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:38 pm
by Foo
showa58taro wrote:
Foo wrote:
showa58taro wrote:
Foo wrote:
showa58taro wrote:
Foo wrote:
showa58taro wrote:
Foo wrote:If you hate people keeping more of what they earn, you probably have issues.

You cannot give tax cuts to people who do not pay taxes in the first place. So of course tax cuts will disproportionately favor payers over non-payers. 95% of the whiners don't pay taxes, but think they do.
I just prefer if it was honestly framed.
I just did honestly frame it. You can't cut taxes for people don't pay them.

Since many, many people work for corporations, giving corporate tax cuts means the corporations are in better position, and thusly, more money available for investment and pay, while also enhancing long term stability.

When you say "the rich", where is the honesty? I wasn't aware the family making payments on a Kia and having special dinners at Olive Garden were considered "the rich".
There you go with the dishonesty. There’s no real link between lower corporate taxes and wage increases. It’s a myth debunked a thousand times over. More bullshit and lies.
If you have more money to spend are you able to pay your employees more than you would if you have less money to spend?

I run a corporation. I can tell you for a fact, the money we have after taxes influences what we are able to pay employees. It is not a difficult concept.

To understand the implications of a corporate tax cut, you have to understand the basics of how an economy works and stop worrying so much about the guy next to you who has more than you.
I audited countless corporations in the UK when the corporation tax rates were cut consistently every year. I can say with absolute certainty there is no link between corporation tax cuts and wage increases.
The UK has about a million other issues offsetting those cuts. No one wants to invest there. We are talking about the US.

The UK was too late in just trying to be competitive with their taxes. They lost so much business to the world and no one really trusts them to maintain the rate cuts. In fact, they are not even fully phased in and the political tide is already turning to phase them out.
Fine. Stay with the US and you can’t find an example of it working either. Also, you are basically saying your anecdote about a food truck proves your point but my example of multiple multinationals isn’t.

Plus the question was about wage increases, not generating new business.

Generating new business is the exact opposite of what this bill doesgivrn the incentives to offshore more business and reduce investment in the US.
Let's start here. If you are a multi-National corporation, are you going to build your foundation in a country that is conducive to doing business with low taxes, or go elsewhere? A foundation of your economy is how easy and productive it is to do business within it. Technology has made the world much more competitive. You have to compete.

Having more jobs in your economy drives up wages because the number of available workers doesn't really change. So the companies that do business here drive up wages.

Here is the things liberals will never understand. You cannot tax 0. Companies aren't just going to stay here and build businesses for your enjoyment, they have to make money. Taxes take away the money. Taxes get too high and they leave or never start, thus you end with zero.

Re: Trump and the tax code simplification

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:41 pm
by Foo
I live in an area with no major retail stores. Why? Because we have a 6% sales tax and it is so easy to access a state with 0% sales tax. Taxes matter.

Re: Trump and the tax code simplification

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 5:22 pm
by showa58taro
Holy fuck. Trump just fucked himself. And it’s on Twitter. Surprise surprise.

Re: Trump and the tax code simplification

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 6:36 pm
by Foo
showa58taro wrote:Holy fuck. Trump just fucked himself. And it’s on Twitter. Surprise surprise.
Keep dreaming. Liberals have been saying this for two years.

Re: Trump and the tax code simplification

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 6:41 pm
by showa58taro
Foo wrote:
showa58taro wrote:Holy fuck. Trump just fucked himself. And it’s on Twitter. Surprise surprise.
Keep dreaming. Liberals have been saying this for two years.
You didn’t catch the part where he confessed to obstruction of justice? Sad.

Re: Trump and the tax code simplification

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 6:50 pm
by Foo
showa58taro wrote:
Foo wrote:
showa58taro wrote:Holy fuck. Trump just fucked himself. And it’s on Twitter. Surprise surprise.
Keep dreaming. Liberals have been saying this for two years.
You didn’t catch the part where he confessed to obstruction of justice? Sad.
Lulz. I am sure that is what he said verbatim! Or is that what some wackadoo the liberals employ as a commentator said and it is now being regurgitated by the facebook geniuses? (I wish the plural was "Genii")

Re: Trump and the tax code simplification

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 6:54 pm
by Jason
Seb, this is pathetic. You are clearly going out of your way to look for things and trying so hard to spin it against him because you are so incredibly biased against the guy.

Re: Trump and the tax code simplification

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 6:56 pm
by showa58taro
Foo wrote:
showa58taro wrote:
Foo wrote:
showa58taro wrote:Holy fuck. Trump just fucked himself. And it’s on Twitter. Surprise surprise.
Keep dreaming. Liberals have been saying this for two years.
You didn’t catch the part where he confessed to obstruction of justice? Sad.
Lulz. I am sure that is what he said verbatim! Or is that what some wackadoo the liberals employ as a commentator said and it is now being regurgitated by the facebook geniuses? (I wish the plural was "Genii")
It’s actually from BBC News.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-42209758

And Sveriges Radio echoed the same. Because you can’t say you fired Flynn because you knew he lied to the FBI about the conversations with Russia, AND ask Comey to drop the investigation because there’s nothing there. The former is admitting knowledge of s problem. The other is only ok if it was genuinely innocent.

Re: Trump and the tax code simplification

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 6:58 pm
by Foo
What everyone is really wondering...What does J-Mac have to say about this?!

Re: Trump and the tax code simplification

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 7:03 pm
by Jason
showa58taro wrote:
Foo wrote:
showa58taro wrote:
Foo wrote:
showa58taro wrote:Holy fuck. Trump just fucked himself. And it’s on Twitter. Surprise surprise.
Keep dreaming. Liberals have been saying this for two years.
You didn’t catch the part where he confessed to obstruction of justice? Sad.
Lulz. I am sure that is what he said verbatim! Or is that what some wackadoo the liberals employ as a commentator said and it is now being regurgitated by the facebook geniuses? (I wish the plural was "Genii")
It’s actually from BBC News.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-42209758

And Sveriges Radio echoed the same. Because you can’t say you fired Flynn because you knew he lied to the FBI about the conversations with Russia, AND ask Comey to drop the investigation because there’s nothing there. The former is admitting knowledge of s problem. The other is only ok if it was genuinely innocent.
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Because BBC said so.

Re: Trump and the tax code simplification

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 7:05 pm
by showa58taro
Foo wrote:What everyone is really wondering...What does J-Mac have to say about this?!
Is he the barometer?

Re: Trump and the tax code simplification

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 7:18 pm
by Foo
showa58taro wrote:
Foo wrote:
showa58taro wrote:
Foo wrote:
showa58taro wrote:Holy fuck. Trump just fucked himself. And it’s on Twitter. Surprise surprise.
Keep dreaming. Liberals have been saying this for two years.
You didn’t catch the part where he confessed to obstruction of justice? Sad.
Lulz. I am sure that is what he said verbatim! Or is that what some wackadoo the liberals employ as a commentator said and it is now being regurgitated by the facebook geniuses? (I wish the plural was "Genii")
It’s actually from BBC News.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-42209758

And Sveriges Radio echoed the same. Because you can’t say you fired Flynn because you knew he lied to the FBI about the conversations with Russia, AND ask Comey to drop the investigation because there’s nothing there. The former is admitting knowledge of s problem. The other is only ok if it was genuinely innocent.
Real stretch there.

The real problem is that even if every thing assumed there is true, there is still no real case. Then, the hurdle to impeach. Then the hurdle to remove Trump (which is the ultimate goal of those pushing the agenda here). It is pointless.

All this is really showing is that Trump has been honest about the Russia thing. This entire investigation is about Russian collusion with the Trump campaign during the election. After all of it, the key guy is going to state there was no collusion during the election, and he got in touch with the Russians after the election to discuss plans to jointly fight terrorists.

Re: Trump and the tax code simplification

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 7:21 pm
by Foo
showa58taro wrote:
Foo wrote:What everyone is really wondering...What does J-Mac have to say about this?!
Is he the barometer?
I just like hearing what his gay brother's big time financial advisor, who happens to be a conservative, has to say.

Re: Trump and the tax code simplification

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 7:23 pm
by showa58taro
Foo wrote:
showa58taro wrote:
Foo wrote:What everyone is really wondering...What does J-Mac have to say about this?!
Is he the barometer?
I just like hearing what his gay brother's big time financial advisor, who happens to be a conservative, has to say.
lol. Fair.