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Untangling Harvey Weinstein
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Yeah, always. It is an incredibly demeaning way to make money.showa58taro wrote:Not always.Foo wrote:Prostitution is about as consensual as slavery.
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slavery isn't a choice, otherwise it would be called volunteering or something. when prostitution isn't a choice, it's rape.
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See NetherlandsFoo wrote:Yeah, always. It is an incredibly demeaning way to make money.showa58taro wrote:Not always.Foo wrote:Prostitution is about as consensual as slavery.
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Yeah, those people are super rapey. Would want no part of that disgusting culture.showa58taro wrote:See NetherlandsFoo wrote:Yeah, always. It is an incredibly demeaning way to make money.showa58taro wrote:Not always.Foo wrote:Prostitution is about as consensual as slavery.
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How many prostitutes do you think are really doing it by choice? Molested, drug addicted, and unemployable being used as cum dumpsters by men with no soul. It is a tragedy, every single time.zombie wrote:slavery isn't a choice, otherwise it would be called volunteering or something. when prostitution isn't a choice, it's rape.
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But it is regulated and well established, removing a lot of the underground aspect. So it does address your idea of it being slavery.Foo wrote:Yeah, those people are super rapey. Would want no part of that disgusting culture.showa58taro wrote:See NetherlandsFoo wrote:Yeah, always. It is an incredibly demeaning way to make money.showa58taro wrote:Not always.Foo wrote:Prostitution is about as consensual as slavery.
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i don't know how many. i do think that some are though. when / if they're molested and drug addicted, that is a tragedy. if they are unemployable, that is a problem with society, not with prostitution. but prostitution is a profession. if there are harmful, tragic elements to the job, then that should be cracked down on. forcing drug addiction, and molesting an employee should be illegal, and not given a pass just because prostitution is also seen as illegal. i think a lot of the tragedy is that prostitutes are deemed not worth helping, because they do it to themselves or whatever. it's one of the few instances where blaming the victim is deemed to be okay, largely. and that sucks.Foo wrote:How many prostitutes do you think are really doing it by choice? Molested, drug addicted, and unemployable being used as cum dumpsters by men with no soul. It is a tragedy, every single time.zombie wrote:slavery isn't a choice, otherwise it would be called volunteering or something. when prostitution isn't a choice, it's rape.
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I know plenty of feminists who are pro-prostitution, such as myself. If it's regulated, I see zero issue with it. Calling all prostitution "rape" and calling it a demeaning way to make money, which is purely opinion, strikes me as idiotic, but then again, most political conversations seem to go that way with some of the people here.
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You are not really a feminist if you think it is ok to use a victim of abuse as a cum dumpster for your own gratification. Those girls are victims in need of help, not sexual exploitation.Jigsaw wrote:I know plenty of feminists who are pro-prostitution, such as myself. If it's regulated, I see zero issue with it. Calling all prostitution "rape" and calling it a demeaning way to make money, which is purely opinion, strikes me as idiotic, but then again, most political conversations seem to go that way with some of the people here.
None of them want to be in that situation. Think for a moment how desperate and low you would have to be in life to allow yourself to be penetrated sexually and risk disease by some stranger. That is where those people are.
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Is rape victim also a profession? You really think sucking dicks is a valid career?zombie wrote:i don't know how many. i do think that some are though. when / if they're molested and drug addicted, that is a tragedy. if they are unemployable, that is a problem with society, not with prostitution. but prostitution is a profession. if there are harmful, tragic elements to the job, then that should be cracked down on. forcing drug addiction, and molesting an employee should be illegal, and not given a pass just because prostitution is also seen as illegal. i think a lot of the tragedy is that prostitutes are deemed not worth helping, because they do it to themselves or whatever. it's one of the few instances where blaming the victim is deemed to be okay, largely. and that sucks.Foo wrote:How many prostitutes do you think are really doing it by choice? Molested, drug addicted, and unemployable being used as cum dumpsters by men with no soul. It is a tragedy, every single time.zombie wrote:slavery isn't a choice, otherwise it would be called volunteering or something. when prostitution isn't a choice, it's rape.
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Legality changes little. It is a moral problem.showa58taro wrote:But it is regulated and well established, removing a lot of the underground aspect. So it does address your idea of it being slavery.Foo wrote:Yeah, those people are super rapey. Would want no part of that disgusting culture.showa58taro wrote:See NetherlandsFoo wrote:Yeah, always. It is an incredibly demeaning way to make money.showa58taro wrote:Not always.Foo wrote:Prostitution is about as consensual as slavery.
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no, rape victim is not a profession. i think that prostitution is a profession. and that it can be done more safely and with less abuse (or no abuse, preferably). i don't know how to determine validity. it's not something that i would willingly choose, but that's not to say that others wouldn't, and don't.Foo wrote:Is rape victim also a profession? You really think sucking dicks is a valid career?zombie wrote:i don't know how many. i do think that some are though. when / if they're molested and drug addicted, that is a tragedy. if they are unemployable, that is a problem with society, not with prostitution. but prostitution is a profession. if there are harmful, tragic elements to the job, then that should be cracked down on. forcing drug addiction, and molesting an employee should be illegal, and not given a pass just because prostitution is also seen as illegal. i think a lot of the tragedy is that prostitutes are deemed not worth helping, because they do it to themselves or whatever. it's one of the few instances where blaming the victim is deemed to be okay, largely. and that sucks.Foo wrote:How many prostitutes do you think are really doing it by choice? Molested, drug addicted, and unemployable being used as cum dumpsters by men with no soul. It is a tragedy, every single time.zombie wrote:slavery isn't a choice, otherwise it would be called volunteering or something. when prostitution isn't a choice, it's rape.
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What would you say if your daughter or sister stated they would like to be a prostitute when they grow up?zombie wrote:no, rape victim is not a profession. i think that prostitution is a profession. and that it can be done more safely and with less abuse (or no abuse, preferably). i don't know how to determine validity. it's not something that i would willingly choose, but that's not to say that others wouldn't, and don't.Foo wrote:Is rape victim also a profession? You really think sucking dicks is a valid career?zombie wrote:i don't know how many. i do think that some are though. when / if they're molested and drug addicted, that is a tragedy. if they are unemployable, that is a problem with society, not with prostitution. but prostitution is a profession. if there are harmful, tragic elements to the job, then that should be cracked down on. forcing drug addiction, and molesting an employee should be illegal, and not given a pass just because prostitution is also seen as illegal. i think a lot of the tragedy is that prostitutes are deemed not worth helping, because they do it to themselves or whatever. it's one of the few instances where blaming the victim is deemed to be okay, largely. and that sucks.Foo wrote:How many prostitutes do you think are really doing it by choice? Molested, drug addicted, and unemployable being used as cum dumpsters by men with no soul. It is a tragedy, every single time.zombie wrote:slavery isn't a choice, otherwise it would be called volunteering or something. when prostitution isn't a choice, it's rape.
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i would encourage them not to. tell them the risks. encourage something else that satisfied whatever reason that they felt like choosing that.Foo wrote: What would you say if your daughter or sister stated they would like to be a prostitute when they grow up?
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Same as getting into porn I guesszombie wrote:i would encourage them not to. tell them the risks. encourage something else that satisfied whatever reason that they felt like choosing that.Foo wrote: What would you say if your daughter or sister stated they would like to be a prostitute when they grow up?
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i would also encourage something else that satisfied that.Tiggnutz wrote:Same as getting into porn I guesszombie wrote:i would encourage them not to. tell them the risks. encourage something else that satisfied whatever reason that they felt like choosing that.Foo wrote: What would you say if your daughter or sister stated they would like to be a prostitute when they grow up?
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So, what professions would you say you would prefer prostitution over? In other words, would you rather them be taking cum shots from a stranger a few times a day or working at Walmart?zombie wrote:i would encourage them not to. tell them the risks. encourage something else that satisfied whatever reason that they felt like choosing that.Foo wrote: What would you say if your daughter or sister stated they would like to be a prostitute when they grow up?
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yes, i would prefer them working retail. but that likely would do nothing to quell whatever they wanted in choosing prostitution as a profession. maybe acting, modeling. i don't know.Foo wrote:So, what professions would you say you would prefer prostitution over? In other words, would you rather them be taking cum shots from a stranger a few times a day or working at Walmart?zombie wrote:i would encourage them not to. tell them the risks. encourage something else that satisfied whatever reason that they felt like choosing that.Foo wrote: What would you say if your daughter or sister stated they would like to be a prostitute when they grow up?
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Changes everything if your saying it’s skavery and using the worst stereotypes to propagate it. If your point is that you find it immoral then that’s fine. But that wasn’t your original point.Foo wrote:Legality changes little. It is a moral problem.showa58taro wrote:But it is regulated and well established, removing a lot of the underground aspect. So it does address your idea of it being slavery.Foo wrote:Yeah, those people are super rapey. Would want no part of that disgusting culture.showa58taro wrote:See NetherlandsFoo wrote:Yeah, always. It is an incredibly demeaning way to make money.showa58taro wrote:Not always.Foo wrote:Prostitution is about as consensual as slavery.
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