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Re: The Good Die Young...

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 4:25 pm
by zombie
cool. if that came across more with your posts, then maybe there wouldn't be so much butting heads with seb and others.

Re: The Good Die Young...

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 5:07 pm
by Foo
zombie wrote:cool. if that came across more with your posts, then maybe there wouldn't be so much butting heads with seb and others.
What I do in real life matters much more to me than trying to impress internet liberals. I don't butt heads with Seb. I like him and he is a good person. I figure we agree on 99.9% of things, but the .1% are what we discuss because that is more interesting than constantly nodding in agreement.

Re: The Good Die Young...

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 5:10 pm
by zombie
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:cool. if that came across more with your posts, then maybe there wouldn't be so much butting heads with seb and others.
What I do in real life matters much more to me than trying to impress internet liberals. I don't butt heads with Seb. I like him and he is a good person. I figure we agree on 99.9% of things, but the .1% are what we discuss because that is more interesting than constantly nodding in agreement.
you're the one that got defensive with your viewpoint, here. i don't know what that was about, if not directed to your internet friends and perception, based on your posts.

Re: The Good Die Young...

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:44 pm
by Foo
Just saying every post doesn't need to be worded like a pity party. I am not worried about perception, but I am also happy to clarify. Nothing was defensive.

Re: The Good Die Young...

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:52 pm
by zombie
no post should be a pity party. you don't have to be sycophantic or patronizing to show respect and understanding.

Re: The Good Die Young...

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:37 pm
by Foo
zombie wrote:no post should be a pity party. you don't have to be sycophantic or patronizing to show respect and understanding.
You sure? :p

Re: The Good Die Young...

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:41 pm
by zombie
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:no post should be a pity party. you don't have to be sycophantic or patronizing to show respect and understanding.
You sure? :p
sure, i'm sure. but i won't tell you that you can't do sycophantic, if you wanna go that way.

Re: The Good Die Young...

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:45 pm
by Foo
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:no post should be a pity party. you don't have to be sycophantic or patronizing to show respect and understanding.
You sure? :p
sure, i'm sure. but i won't tell you that you can't do sycophantic, if you wanna go that way.
I dont't have much acting range.

Re: The Good Die Young...

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:52 pm
by zombie
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:no post should be a pity party. you don't have to be sycophantic or patronizing to show respect and understanding.
You sure? :p
sure, i'm sure. but i won't tell you that you can't do sycophantic, if you wanna go that way.
I dont't have much acting range.
i never said you were acting with your posts.

Re: The Good Die Young...

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:58 am
by showa58taro
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:cool. if that came across more with your posts, then maybe there wouldn't be so much butting heads with seb and others.
What I do in real life matters much more to me than trying to impress internet liberals. I don't butt heads with Seb. I like him and he is a good person. I figure we agree on 99.9% of things, but the .1% are what we discuss because that is more interesting than constantly nodding in agreement.
I’d echo this sentiment. :)

Re: The Good Die Young...

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:53 am
by Tiggnutz
showa58taro wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:cool. if that came across more with your posts, then maybe there wouldn't be so much butting heads with seb and others.
What I do in real life matters much more to me than trying to impress internet liberals. I don't butt heads with Seb. I like him and he is a good person. I figure we agree on 99.9% of things, but the .1% are what we discuss because that is more interesting than constantly nodding in agreement.
I’d echo this sentiment. :)
99.9% seems a little high :roll: but the point is spot on.

Re: The Good Die Young...

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:26 pm
by zombie
i think more like 90-95% of stuff. and i think you'd probably find that to be true with everyone on the board. and yes, absolutely difference of opinion is vital for the board.

but that kind of misses the point of where the discussion started. i find myself looking at cops, in general, in a negative light. recognizing that and working to adjust it or counter it when i find myself falling into that, is a good thing. it's not just being a pity party kind of thing.

Re: The Good Die Young...

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:33 pm
by Foo
zombie wrote:i think more like 90-95% of stuff. and i think you'd probably find that to be true with everyone on the board. and yes, absolutely difference of opinion is vital for the board.

but that kind of misses the point of where the discussion started. i find myself looking at cops, in general, in a negative light. recognizing that and working to adjust it or counter it when i find myself falling into that, is a good thing. it's not just being a pity party kind of thing.
We both love F13 and are practically impossible to offend, while loving to verbally joust. The latter two traits are what cause us to have endless discussion on the things we do not agree on.

How much of your changing point of view on cops is personal experiences versus media reporting?

Re: The Good Die Young...

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:48 pm
by zombie
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:i think more like 90-95% of stuff. and i think you'd probably find that to be true with everyone on the board. and yes, absolutely difference of opinion is vital for the board.

but that kind of misses the point of where the discussion started. i find myself looking at cops, in general, in a negative light. recognizing that and working to adjust it or counter it when i find myself falling into that, is a good thing. it's not just being a pity party kind of thing.
We both love F13 and are practically impossible to offend, while loving to verbally joust. The latter two traits are what cause us to have endless discussion on the things we do not agree on.

How much of your changing point of view on cops is personal experiences versus media reporting?
yeah, i don't have anything against debate or discussion. (unless it's playing devil's advocate for the sake of it) so you can put that away. :P

the changing point of view is me working to not have a negative outlook, where it isn't warranted.

Re: The Good Die Young...

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:01 pm
by Foo
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:i think more like 90-95% of stuff. and i think you'd probably find that to be true with everyone on the board. and yes, absolutely difference of opinion is vital for the board.

but that kind of misses the point of where the discussion started. i find myself looking at cops, in general, in a negative light. recognizing that and working to adjust it or counter it when i find myself falling into that, is a good thing. it's not just being a pity party kind of thing.
We both love F13 and are practically impossible to offend, while loving to verbally joust. The latter two traits are what cause us to have endless discussion on the things we do not agree on.

How much of your changing point of view on cops is personal experiences versus media reporting?
yeah, i don't have anything against debate or discussion. (unless it's playing devil's advocate for the sake of it) so you can put that away. :P

the changing point of view is me working to not have a negative outlook, where it isn't warranted.
But why would you have an unwarranted negative outlook?

Re: The Good Die Young...

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:03 pm
by zombie
Foo wrote:
But why would you have an unwarranted negative outlook?
guilt by association. and that's a shortcoming of mine.

Re: The Good Die Young...

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:27 pm
by Foo
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
But why would you have an unwarranted negative outlook?
guilt by association. and that's a shortcoming of mine.
Does this occur in other things? Do you think nurses are bad because some do bad things? Or teachers?

Re: The Good Die Young...

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:33 pm
by zombie
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
But why would you have an unwarranted negative outlook?
guilt by association. and that's a shortcoming of mine.
Does this occur in other things? Do you think nurses are bad because some do bad things? Or teachers?
yeah, a little bit actually. not nurses or teachers but there are other professions, yeah. it's not anti-whatever, cause i actually see the flaw in it and care to change it. but it is a bias that i have.

Re: The Good Die Young...

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 10:00 pm
by Foo
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
But why would you have an unwarranted negative outlook?
guilt by association. and that's a shortcoming of mine.
Does this occur in other things? Do you think nurses are bad because some do bad things? Or teachers?
yeah, a little bit actually. not nurses or teachers but there are other professions, yeah. it's not anti-whatever, cause i actually see the flaw in it and care to change it. but it is a bias that i have.
Can you give me an example that is not stereotypical liberal fodder? (bankers, military, business people)

Re: The Good Die Young...

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 10:09 pm
by zombie
doctors... but that's typical of a large portion of people to a degree. so that may not be what you're looking for either.

why do you always call me out for "typical liberal" stuff? are you not pretty standard conservative in many of your views?