Re: Why I grew to love the Donald and forgive his haters
Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 11:55 am
so, from within myself? what do you suggest?
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I was cheekily adapting Buddhist quotes to parallel that change must come from within the institutions. I think you’re doing a good job with what you can do.zombie wrote:so, from within myself? what do you suggest?
okay, the institutions would change if the public genuinely felt the way i think that we should, and held those institutions accountable for discrimination and bigotry.showa58taro wrote:I was cheekily adapting Buddhist quotes to parallel that change must come from within the institutions. I think you’re doing a good job with what you can do.zombie wrote:so, from within myself? what do you suggest?
No amount of state intervention will change anything like Buddha said real change must come from within.showa58taro wrote:Literally and by definition false.Tiggnutz wrote:Your last statement does speak the truth though equality is not the goal of the left.Tiggnutz wrote:If everyone was treated equally how could it be pro anyone?showa58taro wrote:Treating them equal only works if they are equal. You’re advocating preserving. The pro-white status quo currentlybin pkace.Tiggnutz wrote:If you don't treat everyone equally than someone is being treated unfairly and you get nowhere.showa58taro wrote:Not really. No.Tiggnutz wrote:Sounds logical to me treat everyone the same and boom problem solved.zombie wrote:racism and bigotry should be called out as anti-american. want people to stop feeling defensive of their race, religion, sexual orientation etc? make them feel like it's not something that needs to be defended.
Both sides want equality. They disagree how much state intervention in free market economics is required to achieve true equality.
so politicians have fucked up the black family? how to fix that?Foo wrote:The cities in America with the most inequality and troubles within the black community have been run by liberals for decades. Too much pandering to those people and not enough tough love has the black family unit nearing extinction.
Tell me how many times in the last decade you have seen a never married black man and a never married black woman get married without children? Now compare that to black single moms trying to raise kids.
I wouldn't say that politicians fucked up the black family but they surely have done nothing to help the black family. That's all politicians not just libs. Though libs seem to be doing everything they can to keep it fucked up.zombie wrote:so politicians have fucked up the black family? how to fix that?Foo wrote:The cities in America with the most inequality and troubles within the black community have been run by liberals for decades. Too much pandering to those people and not enough tough love has the black family unit nearing extinction.
Tell me how many times in the last decade you have seen a never married black man and a never married black woman get married without children? Now compare that to black single moms trying to raise kids.
"you end up breaking it worse" "...you have stolen from them" who are you speaking to?Foo wrote:Stop trying to fix things you cannot fix. You end up breaking it worse.
Give those people the responsibility back you have stolen from them.
yeah, foo likes to frame everything as if it's all the fault of the people he disagrees with. have conservatives done anything to help it be unfucked, in your estimation?Tiggnutz wrote:I wouldn't say that politicians fucked up the black family but they surely have done nothing to help the black family. That's all politicians not just libs. Though libs seem to be doing everything they can to keep it fucked up.zombie wrote:so politicians have fucked up the black family? how to fix that?Foo wrote:The cities in America with the most inequality and troubles within the black community have been run by liberals for decades. Too much pandering to those people and not enough tough love has the black family unit nearing extinction.
Tell me how many times in the last decade you have seen a never married black man and a never married black woman get married without children? Now compare that to black single moms trying to raise kids.
No not in my estimation but they don't work as hard to keep it fucked up. Only black people can unfuck it anyway and that will be a very difficult uncomfortable cultural change. The best everyone else can do is be supportive and help where you can.zombie wrote:yeah, foo likes to frame everything as if it's all the fault of the people he disagrees with. have conservatives done anything to help it be unfucked, in your estimation?Tiggnutz wrote:I wouldn't say that politicians fucked up the black family but they surely have done nothing to help the black family. That's all politicians not just libs. Though libs seem to be doing everything they can to keep it fucked up.zombie wrote:so politicians have fucked up the black family? how to fix that?Foo wrote:The cities in America with the most inequality and troubles within the black community have been run by liberals for decades. Too much pandering to those people and not enough tough love has the black family unit nearing extinction.
Tell me how many times in the last decade you have seen a never married black man and a never married black woman get married without children? Now compare that to black single moms trying to raise kids.
whatever steps you feel like were done to make it fucked and keep it fucked could be undone though? that's something that could be done from outside the black communities?Tiggnutz wrote:No not in my estimation but they don't work as hard to keep it fucked up. Only black people can unfuck it anyway and that will be a very difficult uncomfortable cultural change. The best everyone else can do is be supportive and help where you can.zombie wrote:yeah, foo likes to frame everything as if it's all the fault of the people he disagrees with. have conservatives done anything to help it be unfucked, in your estimation?Tiggnutz wrote:I wouldn't say that politicians fucked up the black family but they surely have done nothing to help the black family. That's all politicians not just libs. Though libs seem to be doing everything they can to keep it fucked up.zombie wrote:so politicians have fucked up the black family? how to fix that?Foo wrote:The cities in America with the most inequality and troubles within the black community have been run by liberals for decades. Too much pandering to those people and not enough tough love has the black family unit nearing extinction.
Tell me how many times in the last decade you have seen a never married black man and a never married black woman get married without children? Now compare that to black single moms trying to raise kids.
Its all very exposed nerve type things that really make people uncomfortable and I think the left exploits that to a point. First and foremost you gotta do something about crime nothing keeps things fucked up like people not feeling safe.zombie wrote:whatever steps you feel like were done to make it fucked and keep it fucked could be undone though? that's something that could be done from outside the black communities?Tiggnutz wrote:No not in my estimation but they don't work as hard to keep it fucked up. Only black people can unfuck it anyway and that will be a very difficult uncomfortable cultural change. The best everyone else can do is be supportive and help where you can.zombie wrote:yeah, foo likes to frame everything as if it's all the fault of the people he disagrees with. have conservatives done anything to help it be unfucked, in your estimation?Tiggnutz wrote:I wouldn't say that politicians fucked up the black family but they surely have done nothing to help the black family. That's all politicians not just libs. Though libs seem to be doing everything they can to keep it fucked up.zombie wrote:so politicians have fucked up the black family? how to fix that?Foo wrote:The cities in America with the most inequality and troubles within the black community have been run by liberals for decades. Too much pandering to those people and not enough tough love has the black family unit nearing extinction.
Tell me how many times in the last decade you have seen a never married black man and a never married black woman get married without children? Now compare that to black single moms trying to raise kids.
Second would be education inner city kids do not get a chance at proper education and that keeps things fucked up.Tiggnutz wrote:Its all very exposed nerve type things that really make people uncomfortable and I think the left exploits that to a point. First and foremost you gotta do something about crime nothing keeps things fucked up like people not feeling safe.zombie wrote:whatever steps you feel like were done to make it fucked and keep it fucked could be undone though? that's something that could be done from outside the black communities?Tiggnutz wrote:No not in my estimation but they don't work as hard to keep it fucked up. Only black people can unfuck it anyway and that will be a very difficult uncomfortable cultural change. The best everyone else can do is be supportive and help where you can.zombie wrote:yeah, foo likes to frame everything as if it's all the fault of the people he disagrees with. have conservatives done anything to help it be unfucked, in your estimation?Tiggnutz wrote:I wouldn't say that politicians fucked up the black family but they surely have done nothing to help the black family. That's all politicians not just libs. Though libs seem to be doing everything they can to keep it fucked up.zombie wrote:so politicians have fucked up the black family? how to fix that?Foo wrote:The cities in America with the most inequality and troubles within the black community have been run by liberals for decades. Too much pandering to those people and not enough tough love has the black family unit nearing extinction.
Tell me how many times in the last decade you have seen a never married black man and a never married black woman get married without children? Now compare that to black single moms trying to raise kids.
i feel like crime is largely (but not completely) because of lack of opportunity, education (as you mentioned), and not feeling safe. so, encourage education and employment (and give them means and access to that) and bust up the criminal gangs, could help a long way?Tiggnutz wrote:Second would be education inner city kids do not get a chance at proper education and that keeps things fucked up.Tiggnutz wrote: Its all very exposed nerve type things that really make people uncomfortable and I think the left exploits that to a point. First and foremost you gotta do something about crime nothing keeps things fucked up like people not feeling safe.
Crime and lack of education are connected one leads to the other.zombie wrote:i feel like crime is largely (but not completely) because of lack of opportunity, education (as you mentioned), and not feeling safe. so, encourage education and employment (and give them means and access to that) and bust up the criminal gangs, could help a long way?Tiggnutz wrote:Second would be education inner city kids do not get a chance at proper education and that keeps things fucked up.Tiggnutz wrote: Its all very exposed nerve type things that really make people uncomfortable and I think the left exploits that to a point. First and foremost you gotta do something about crime nothing keeps things fucked up like people not feeling safe.
well yeah, lack of education and lack of opportunity (as in employment) makes people desperate. desperation causes crime. and also causes people to reject people who do have education and opportunity. and thus more crime.Tiggnutz wrote:Crime and lack of education are connected one leads to the other.zombie wrote:i feel like crime is largely (but not completely) because of lack of opportunity, education (as you mentioned), and not feeling safe. so, encourage education and employment (and give them means and access to that) and bust up the criminal gangs, could help a long way?Tiggnutz wrote:Second would be education inner city kids do not get a chance at proper education and that keeps things fucked up.Tiggnutz wrote: Its all very exposed nerve type things that really make people uncomfortable and I think the left exploits that to a point. First and foremost you gotta do something about crime nothing keeps things fucked up like people not feeling safe.