I don't know. What I do know is you're either advocating for heavy police involvement to the point of making football an unwatchable sport, or it's hit you that this take took you to places you didn't anticipate and we can probably get over whatever double standard you see this as.Tiggnutz wrote:That's a good point both are assault why is it OK for some but not for othersHeadhunter wrote:Couldn't the Browns have called the police on Mason Rudolph for kicking Myles Garrett in the nuts? You're certainly entitled to call the police if someone kicks you in the nuts with destructive intent.
2019 HMF fantasy football
Forum rules
There are no refs here.
There are no refs here.
- Headhunter
- Charter Member
- Posts: 11017
- Joined: Sun May 21, 2017 11:06 am
Re: 2019 HMF fantasy football
Not removing until John Elway is fired.
Re: 2019 HMF fantasy football
In hockey a very aggressive dangerous sport a guy whacked a dude in the back of the head with his stick a few years back and he was rightfully brought up on charges because it far exceeded what was acceptable why is this different
- Headhunter
- Charter Member
- Posts: 11017
- Joined: Sun May 21, 2017 11:06 am
Re: 2019 HMF fantasy football
That happened in bleeding heart Canada. That goes nowhere in the US.Tiggnutz wrote:In hockey a very aggressive dangerous sport a guy whacked a dude in the back of the head with his stick a few years back and he was rightfully brought up on charges because it far exceeded what was acceptable why is this different
It's also just a total chump move to bring out the lawyers there.
Last edited by Headhunter on Fri Nov 15, 2019 5:02 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Not removing until John Elway is fired.
Re: 2019 HMF fantasy football
My only point is this paradigm of sports violence compared to other violence is wrong. And if I used paradigm correctly in that sentence I want to know lol
- Headhunter
- Charter Member
- Posts: 11017
- Joined: Sun May 21, 2017 11:06 am
Re: 2019 HMF fantasy football
Okay, fine. Let's say it's wrong. So what? You're still going to go OHHHHHHHH every time someone gets a wicked knockout shot.Tiggnutz wrote:My only point is this paradigm of sports violence compared to other violence is wrong. And if I used paradigm correctly in that sentence I want to know lol
Not removing until John Elway is fired.
- Headhunter
- Charter Member
- Posts: 11017
- Joined: Sun May 21, 2017 11:06 am
Re: 2019 HMF fantasy football
An uncomfortable truth in the world is that hypocrisy and double standards should absolutely exist. I don't want my football fields crawling with cops, so it's going to be different for people behind desks. I'm 100% comfortable with this.
Not removing until John Elway is fired.
Re: 2019 HMF fantasy football
I for the most part agree but that was something completely different that happened last night it crossed lines that should not have been crossed and I would of banned him for life to make an exampleHeadhunter wrote:An uncomfortable truth in the world is that hypocrisy and double standards should absolutely exist. I don't want my football fields crawling with cops, so it's going to be different for people behind desks. I'm 100% comfortable with this.
- Headhunter
- Charter Member
- Posts: 11017
- Joined: Sun May 21, 2017 11:06 am
Re: 2019 HMF fantasy football
We're acting like this is the first time something like this has happened. Rare you get a helmet swing that connects like that, but dudes swing helmets. It does happen.Tiggnutz wrote:I for the most part agree but that was something completely different that happened last night it crossed lines that should not have been crossed and I would of banned him for life to make an exampleHeadhunter wrote:An uncomfortable truth in the world is that hypocrisy and double standards should absolutely exist. I don't want my football fields crawling with cops, so it's going to be different for people behind desks. I'm 100% comfortable with this.
What the NFL did is exactly what I would have. He will have to make things right this offseason before he can come back. And honestly, as bad as this was, there was nothing about Myles Garrett I didn't like before this incident. Everything I've seen for 4-5 years told me the guy was a genuinely awesome person with a lot of intellectual interests outside of football, who is respectful and is never going to be a problem for people to get along with. Probably someone we would all dig the shit out of and chop it up on here with. When he crosses those white lines, he turns into the monster many players turn themselves into. And in a blackout moment, he did something totally indefensible. Less than ten minutes later, you could see him deep in thought on the sideline and taking it all in. He absolutely deserves a chance to make things right and I'm pretty confident he will.
Not removing until John Elway is fired.
- Headhunter
- Charter Member
- Posts: 11017
- Joined: Sun May 21, 2017 11:06 am
Re: 2019 HMF fantasy football
And for his own dignity, Rudolph better not seriously be pursuing legal action. Or the rest of his career is going to be an incredibly miserable experience.
Not removing until John Elway is fired.
Re: 2019 HMF fantasy football
The general populous will forget but I dont think other players will he can't take back what he did and the Steelers definitely wont you can't do what he did and say it was a bad day he earned his dirty player card last nightHeadhunter wrote:We're acting like this is the first time something like this has happened. Rare you get a helmet swing that connects like that, but dudes swing helmets. It does happen.Tiggnutz wrote:I for the most part agree but that was something completely different that happened last night it crossed lines that should not have been crossed and I would of banned him for life to make an exampleHeadhunter wrote:An uncomfortable truth in the world is that hypocrisy and double standards should absolutely exist. I don't want my football fields crawling with cops, so it's going to be different for people behind desks. I'm 100% comfortable with this.
What the NFL did is exactly what I would have. He will have to make things right this offseason before he can come back. And honestly, as bad as this was, there was nothing about Myles Garrett I didn't like before this incident. Everything I've seen for 4-5 years told me the guy was a genuinely awesome person with a lot of intellectual interests outside of football, who is respectful and is never going to be a problem for people to get along with. Probably someone we would all dig the shit out of and chop it up on here with. When he crosses those white lines, he turns into the monster many players turn themselves into. And in a blackout moment, he did something totally indefensible. Less than ten minutes later, you could see him deep in thought on the sideline and taking it all in. He absolutely deserves a chance to make things right and I'm pretty confident he will.
- Headhunter
- Charter Member
- Posts: 11017
- Joined: Sun May 21, 2017 11:06 am
Re: 2019 HMF fantasy football
Nobody can take back things they do. That's life. He doesn't need to take it back. He needs to swallow the punishment, do the right things and move forward. Lifetime ban is swinging a hammer just to do it, and that's not good leadership, that's weak projection of strength that burns bridges.Tiggnutz wrote:The general populous will forget but I dont think other players will he can't take back what he did and the Steelers definitely wont you can't do what he did and say it was a bad day he earned his dirty player card last nightHeadhunter wrote:We're acting like this is the first time something like this has happened. Rare you get a helmet swing that connects like that, but dudes swing helmets. It does happen.Tiggnutz wrote:I for the most part agree but that was something completely different that happened last night it crossed lines that should not have been crossed and I would of banned him for life to make an exampleHeadhunter wrote:An uncomfortable truth in the world is that hypocrisy and double standards should absolutely exist. I don't want my football fields crawling with cops, so it's going to be different for people behind desks. I'm 100% comfortable with this.
What the NFL did is exactly what I would have. He will have to make things right this offseason before he can come back. And honestly, as bad as this was, there was nothing about Myles Garrett I didn't like before this incident. Everything I've seen for 4-5 years told me the guy was a genuinely awesome person with a lot of intellectual interests outside of football, who is respectful and is never going to be a problem for people to get along with. Probably someone we would all dig the shit out of and chop it up on here with. When he crosses those white lines, he turns into the monster many players turn themselves into. And in a blackout moment, he did something totally indefensible. Less than ten minutes later, you could see him deep in thought on the sideline and taking it all in. He absolutely deserves a chance to make things right and I'm pretty confident he will.
I can promise you if Mason Rudolph attempts to pursue legal action, he'll be a target for more players around the league than Myles Garrett.
Not removing until John Elway is fired.
- Headhunter
- Charter Member
- Posts: 11017
- Joined: Sun May 21, 2017 11:06 am
Re: 2019 HMF fantasy football
Now let's move on to more important matters like the fact that we are one game away from Jason declaring Brandon Allen the Broncos' future
Not removing until John Elway is fired.
Re: 2019 HMF fantasy football
You are probably right there wont be legal action but if I was a betting man the next time Myles plays the Steelers there will be retributionHeadhunter wrote:Nobody can take back things they do. That's life. He doesn't need to take it back. He needs to swallow the punishment, do the right things and move forward. Lifetime ban is swinging a hammer just to do it, and that's not good leadership, that's weak projection of strength that burns bridges.Tiggnutz wrote:The general populous will forget but I dont think other players will he can't take back what he did and the Steelers definitely wont you can't do what he did and say it was a bad day he earned his dirty player card last nightHeadhunter wrote:We're acting like this is the first time something like this has happened. Rare you get a helmet swing that connects like that, but dudes swing helmets. It does happen.Tiggnutz wrote:I for the most part agree but that was something completely different that happened last night it crossed lines that should not have been crossed and I would of banned him for life to make an exampleHeadhunter wrote:An uncomfortable truth in the world is that hypocrisy and double standards should absolutely exist. I don't want my football fields crawling with cops, so it's going to be different for people behind desks. I'm 100% comfortable with this.
What the NFL did is exactly what I would have. He will have to make things right this offseason before he can come back. And honestly, as bad as this was, there was nothing about Myles Garrett I didn't like before this incident. Everything I've seen for 4-5 years told me the guy was a genuinely awesome person with a lot of intellectual interests outside of football, who is respectful and is never going to be a problem for people to get along with. Probably someone we would all dig the shit out of and chop it up on here with. When he crosses those white lines, he turns into the monster many players turn themselves into. And in a blackout moment, he did something totally indefensible. Less than ten minutes later, you could see him deep in thought on the sideline and taking it all in. He absolutely deserves a chance to make things right and I'm pretty confident he will.
I can promise you if Mason Rudolph attempts to pursue legal action, he'll be a target for more players around the league than Myles Garrett.
- Headhunter
- Charter Member
- Posts: 11017
- Joined: Sun May 21, 2017 11:06 am
Re: 2019 HMF fantasy football
Probably. But Mason Rudolph is the one who will be out there in 17 days against the Browns defense that saw their best player get banned for the year while the guy who repeatedly tried to hit him in the nuts and escalated the fight, wasn't punished at all and has threatened legal action.Tiggnutz wrote:You are probably right there wont be legal action but if I was a betting man the next time Myles plays the Steelers there will be retributionHeadhunter wrote:Nobody can take back things they do. That's life. He doesn't need to take it back. He needs to swallow the punishment, do the right things and move forward. Lifetime ban is swinging a hammer just to do it, and that's not good leadership, that's weak projection of strength that burns bridges.Tiggnutz wrote:The general populous will forget but I dont think other players will he can't take back what he did and the Steelers definitely wont you can't do what he did and say it was a bad day he earned his dirty player card last nightHeadhunter wrote:We're acting like this is the first time something like this has happened. Rare you get a helmet swing that connects like that, but dudes swing helmets. It does happen.Tiggnutz wrote:I for the most part agree but that was something completely different that happened last night it crossed lines that should not have been crossed and I would of banned him for life to make an exampleHeadhunter wrote:An uncomfortable truth in the world is that hypocrisy and double standards should absolutely exist. I don't want my football fields crawling with cops, so it's going to be different for people behind desks. I'm 100% comfortable with this.
What the NFL did is exactly what I would have. He will have to make things right this offseason before he can come back. And honestly, as bad as this was, there was nothing about Myles Garrett I didn't like before this incident. Everything I've seen for 4-5 years told me the guy was a genuinely awesome person with a lot of intellectual interests outside of football, who is respectful and is never going to be a problem for people to get along with. Probably someone we would all dig the shit out of and chop it up on here with. When he crosses those white lines, he turns into the monster many players turn themselves into. And in a blackout moment, he did something totally indefensible. Less than ten minutes later, you could see him deep in thought on the sideline and taking it all in. He absolutely deserves a chance to make things right and I'm pretty confident he will.
I can promise you if Mason Rudolph attempts to pursue legal action, he'll be a target for more players around the league than Myles Garrett.
Good luck, Mason. You'll need it.
Not removing until John Elway is fired.
Re: 2019 HMF fantasy football
All trueHeadhunter wrote:Probably. But Mason Rudolph is the one who will be out there in 17 days against the Browns defense that saw their best player get banned for the year while the guy who repeatedly tried to hit him in the nuts and escalated the fight, wasn't punished at all and has threatened legal action.Tiggnutz wrote:You are probably right there wont be legal action but if I was a betting man the next time Myles plays the Steelers there will be retributionHeadhunter wrote:Nobody can take back things they do. That's life. He doesn't need to take it back. He needs to swallow the punishment, do the right things and move forward. Lifetime ban is swinging a hammer just to do it, and that's not good leadership, that's weak projection of strength that burns bridges.Tiggnutz wrote:The general populous will forget but I dont think other players will he can't take back what he did and the Steelers definitely wont you can't do what he did and say it was a bad day he earned his dirty player card last nightHeadhunter wrote:We're acting like this is the first time something like this has happened. Rare you get a helmet swing that connects like that, but dudes swing helmets. It does happen.Tiggnutz wrote:I for the most part agree but that was something completely different that happened last night it crossed lines that should not have been crossed and I would of banned him for life to make an exampleHeadhunter wrote:An uncomfortable truth in the world is that hypocrisy and double standards should absolutely exist. I don't want my football fields crawling with cops, so it's going to be different for people behind desks. I'm 100% comfortable with this.
What the NFL did is exactly what I would have. He will have to make things right this offseason before he can come back. And honestly, as bad as this was, there was nothing about Myles Garrett I didn't like before this incident. Everything I've seen for 4-5 years told me the guy was a genuinely awesome person with a lot of intellectual interests outside of football, who is respectful and is never going to be a problem for people to get along with. Probably someone we would all dig the shit out of and chop it up on here with. When he crosses those white lines, he turns into the monster many players turn themselves into. And in a blackout moment, he did something totally indefensible. Less than ten minutes later, you could see him deep in thought on the sideline and taking it all in. He absolutely deserves a chance to make things right and I'm pretty confident he will.
I can promise you if Mason Rudolph attempts to pursue legal action, he'll be a target for more players around the league than Myles Garrett.
Good luck, Mason. You'll need it.
- showa58taro
- Administrator
- Posts: 8729
- Joined: Wed May 17, 2017 6:29 pm
- Location: London, England
Re: 2019 HMF fantasy football
Broncos are watching the Kaepernick workout. I would love nothing more than him joining Denver and starting.
Re: 2019 HMF fantasy football
That would be a pussy move.Headhunter wrote:And for his own dignity, Rudolph better not seriously be pursuing legal action. Or the rest of his career is going to be an incredibly miserable experience.
Re: 2019 HMF fantasy football
Nope, u good (maybe). :pTiggnutz wrote:My only point is this paradigm of sports violence compared to other violence is wrong. And if I used paradigm correctly in that sentence I want to know lol
- Headhunter
- Charter Member
- Posts: 11017
- Joined: Sun May 21, 2017 11:06 am
Re: 2019 HMF fantasy football
Kaep scorned Elway when he wouldn't slash his salary by 70% to join the Broncos. They are doing it to save face, like every other team.showa58taro wrote:Broncos are watching the Kaepernick workout. I would love nothing more than him joining Denver and starting.
Not removing until John Elway is fired.
Re: 2019 HMF fantasy football
Can't wait for Kaep to fail tryouts.