United Healthcare CEO fatally shot

[zombie]

Keep in mind the consensus public reaction you’ll see online is far more celebratory than anything I’ve said. I just don’t give a shit. Take a look at Twitter, Reddit etc.

Public leaders in America should maybe take note of this.

twitter will find a way to celebrate any attack or murder.

the ceo guy was evil. i don't feel good justifying his death personally, all the same. and i do want the shooter to be apprehended or whatever else may occur. that kind of thing feels good in the movies. it doesn't feel good in real life. that's just my take.

Are you going to be actively bothered in your day to day life if they don’t find the shooter?

no. largely, i'll just live my life.

[Headhunter]

Keep in mind the consensus public reaction you’ll see online is far more celebratory than anything I’ve said. I just don’t give a shit. Take a look at Twitter, Reddit etc.

Public leaders in America should maybe take note of this.

twitter will find a way to celebrate any attack or murder.

the ceo guy was evil. i don't feel good justifying his death personally, all the same. and i do want the shooter to be apprehended or whatever else may occur. that kind of thing feels good in the movies. it doesn't feel good in real life. that's just my take.

Are you going to be actively bothered in your day to day life if they don’t find the shooter?

no. largely, i'll just live my life.

But there probably are murders that hypothetically would elicit that reaction from you, right?

[Lazerus]

I didn’t. I also don’t really care if he gets caught or not.

You're sounding kinda angry lately. You alright man?

I’m actually great and happy. I’m just not going to pretend I care about some evil bastard getting smoked.

How do you know he was evil? Because of the industry he worked in? If you're basing it on that then you must think the same of me and millions of others.

the other day I seen a post where you were wishing someone dead and now this. I don't recall you coming off this hateful in the past but hey I get it, times change and people change. Just so we are clear, I am not trying to start shit. Just making a comment based on observation, no judgement here.

Do you kill people so you can increase shareholder profits by 0.01%? If not, probably not a good comparison.

I don't believe in wishing people dead or being condescending about someone's death, regardless of what they did for a living or whatever. But that's just me. Like I said earlier no judgement here.

I didn’t wish this guy dead. He just died. It’s not like I had any choice in the matter.

I wasn't talking about the CEO guy. Not long ago I saw in another thread you wishing a person dead. It was in one of the Trump threads. I found it out of character for you and in poor taste but I didn't say anything then because I thought maybe you were being sarcastic and/or joking. But seeing your response here to this made me rethink that. Hence why I asked if you were alright? To me it was coming across that you are angry but maybe I am wrong, Its hard sometimes to interpret what a person is trying to say on a message board.

[Headhunter]

I didn’t. I also don’t really care if he gets caught or not.

You're sounding kinda angry lately. You alright man?

I’m actually great and happy. I’m just not going to pretend I care about some evil bastard getting smoked.

How do you know he was evil? Because of the industry he worked in? If you're basing it on that then you must think the same of me and millions of others.

the other day I seen a post where you were wishing someone dead and now this. I don't recall you coming off this hateful in the past but hey I get it, times change and people change. Just so we are clear, I am not trying to start shit. Just making a comment based on observation, no judgement here.

Do you kill people so you can increase shareholder profits by 0.01%? If not, probably not a good comparison.

I don't believe in wishing people dead or being condescending about someone's death, regardless of what they did for a living or whatever. But that's just me. Like I said earlier no judgement here.

I didn’t wish this guy dead. He just died. It’s not like I had any choice in the matter.

I wasn't talking about the CEO guy. Not long ago I saw in another thread you wishing a person dead. It was in one of the Trump threads. I found it out of character for you and in poor taste but I didn't say anything then because I thought maybe you were being sarcastic and/or joking. But seeing your response here to this made me rethink that. Hence why I asked if you were alright? To me it was coming across that you are angry but maybe I am wrong, Its hard sometimes to interpret what a person is trying to say on a message board.

I appreciate your concern. I’m doing well. You are welcome to disagree with the way I see things.

[Jason]

Everyone else can have their gold stars for being good and righteous people. It’s fine. I would just ask that you also spare a little time to feel something for the people this guy killed for his shareholders.

This is my dilemma. Did he go about not giving a shit about the overall health of people under United Healthcare and only care about profit even at the expense of death? I struggle to believe this isn't the case.

And also, let's say everyone in the world knows for a fact that this is the case, big pharma and Healthcare CEOs are totally evil and for-profit only at the expense of the deaths of others. But nobody is doing anything about it and citizens are still forced to pay them money and die under their corruptions. How do you stop them? Writing letters? Protests? Violence?

[Lazerus]

Everyone else can have their gold stars for being good and righteous people. It’s fine. I would just ask that you also spare a little time to feel something for the people this guy killed for his shareholders.

This is my dilemma. Did he go about not giving a shit about the overall health of people under United Healthcare and only care about profit even at the expense of death? I struggle to believe this isn't the case.

And also, let's say everyone in the world knows for a fact that this is the case, big pharma and Healthcare CEOs are totally evil and for-profit only at the expense of the deaths of others. But nobody is doing anything about it and citizens are still forced to pay them money and die under their corruptions. How do you stop them? Writing letters? Protests? Violence?

The same can be said of CEO's in Big Oil. I mean they're literally destroying the planet while making millions. And what about those assholes in the Military Industrial Complex? All those profits from wars. The list goes on and on. Humans at their core are corrupt.

[Headhunter]

Everyone else can have their gold stars for being good and righteous people. It’s fine. I would just ask that you also spare a little time to feel something for the people this guy killed for his shareholders.

This is my dilemma. Did he go about not giving a shit about the overall health of people under United Healthcare and only care about profit even at the expense of death? I struggle to believe this isn't the case.

And also, let's say everyone in the world knows for a fact that this is the case, big pharma and Healthcare CEOs are totally evil and for-profit only at the expense of the deaths of others. But nobody is doing anything about it and citizens are still forced to pay them money and die under their corruptions. How do you stop them? Writing letters? Protests? Violence?

These companies are so firmly embedded in our political system, I think the only non-violent means that *could* change anything would be a general strike, something that is kind of unthinkable in a society that mostly lives paycheck to paycheck.

Americans don’t have the stomach to leverage their labor. Compare that to the French, who are ready to burn Paris to the ground any time they want something to improve their lives. And it usually works.

[Jason]

Everyone else can have their gold stars for being good and righteous people. It’s fine. I would just ask that you also spare a little time to feel something for the people this guy killed for his shareholders.

This is my dilemma. Did he go about not giving a shit about the overall health of people under United Healthcare and only care about profit even at the expense of death? I struggle to believe this isn't the case.

And also, let's say everyone in the world knows for a fact that this is the case, big pharma and Healthcare CEOs are totally evil and for-profit only at the expense of the deaths of others. But nobody is doing anything about it and citizens are still forced to pay them money and die under their corruptions. How do you stop them? Writing letters? Protests? Violence?

The same can be said of CEO's in Big Oil. I mean they're literally destroying the planet while making millions. And what about those assholes in the Military Industrial Complex? All those profits from wars. The list goes on and on. Humans at their core are corrupt.

I pretty much agree with everything except the idea that fossil fuels are destroying the planet. Lithium mines for electric cars are actually doing much worse than digging for oil ever did.

[Lazerus]

Everyone else can have their gold stars for being good and righteous people. It’s fine. I would just ask that you also spare a little time to feel something for the people this guy killed for his shareholders.

This is my dilemma. Did he go about not giving a shit about the overall health of people under United Healthcare and only care about profit even at the expense of death? I struggle to believe this isn't the case.

And also, let's say everyone in the world knows for a fact that this is the case, big pharma and Healthcare CEOs are totally evil and for-profit only at the expense of the deaths of others. But nobody is doing anything about it and citizens are still forced to pay them money and die under their corruptions. How do you stop them? Writing letters? Protests? Violence?

The same can be said of CEO's in Big Oil. I mean they're literally destroying the planet while making millions. And what about those assholes in the Military Industrial Complex? All those profits from wars. The list goes on and on. Humans at their core are corrupt.

I pretty much agree with everything except the idea that fossil fuels are destroying the planet. Lithium mines for electric cars are actually doing much worse than digging for oil ever did.

The petroleum industry is not innocent when it comes to the destruction of this planet. Fossil fuels are contributing to the damage of our atmosphere. But to your point there are many culprits who are doing worse. We need to get off fossil fuels but electric is not the way to go.

[Headhunter]

Big Oil is complicated because it is harming the planet but it’s also keeping us alive while no alternative exists at scale. We can’t just flip the switch, the light has to be on for a long time before it’s even viable to turn it off. Should there be a greater effort to prepare for that? Yea of course.

[Jason]

Everyone else can have their gold stars for being good and righteous people. It’s fine. I would just ask that you also spare a little time to feel something for the people this guy killed for his shareholders.

This is my dilemma. Did he go about not giving a shit about the overall health of people under United Healthcare and only care about profit even at the expense of death? I struggle to believe this isn't the case.

And also, let's say everyone in the world knows for a fact that this is the case, big pharma and Healthcare CEOs are totally evil and for-profit only at the expense of the deaths of others. But nobody is doing anything about it and citizens are still forced to pay them money and die under their corruptions. How do you stop them? Writing letters? Protests? Violence?

The same can be said of CEO's in Big Oil. I mean they're literally destroying the planet while making millions. And what about those assholes in the Military Industrial Complex? All those profits from wars. The list goes on and on. Humans at their core are corrupt.

I pretty much agree with everything except the idea that fossil fuels are destroying the planet. Lithium mines for electric cars are actually doing much worse than digging for oil ever did.

The petroleum industry is not innocent when it comes to the destruction of this planet. Fossil fuels are contributing to the damage of our atmosphere. But to your point there are many culprits who are doing worse. We need to get off fossil fuels but electric is not the way to go.

If true, we are also to blame for owning cars, taking the bus, flying on planes etc...

All we really need is a particle accelerator in every home and we can make our own hydrogen powered cars. But the powers that be will never allow that since they can't make money.

[Headhunter]

Nuclear was always the way but it’s probably too late to build that up. And it didn’t have to be. The hippies were wrong about that one and they got duped by Big Oil propaganda.

[Lazerus]

Nuclear was always the way but it’s probably too late to build that up. And it didn’t have to be. The hippies were wrong about that one and they got duped by Big Oil propaganda.

Stupid baby boomers

[Headhunter]

Nuclear was always the way but it’s probably too late to build that up. And it didn’t have to be. The hippies were wrong about that one and they got duped by Big Oil propaganda.

Stupid baby boomers

Yup. Even the things they were right about, they just gave up to get their slice of the pie. Which they now refuse to give up.

[Jason]

Everyone else can have their gold stars for being good and righteous people. It’s fine. I would just ask that you also spare a little time to feel something for the people this guy killed for his shareholders.

This is my dilemma. Did he go about not giving a shit about the overall health of people under United Healthcare and only care about profit even at the expense of death? I struggle to believe this isn't the case.

And also, let's say everyone in the world knows for a fact that this is the case, big pharma and Healthcare CEOs are totally evil and for-profit only at the expense of the deaths of others. But nobody is doing anything about it and citizens are still forced to pay them money and die under their corruptions. How do you stop them? Writing letters? Protests? Violence?

These companies are so firmly embedded in our political system, I think the only non-violent means that *could* change anything would be a general strike, something that is kind of unthinkable in a society that mostly lives paycheck to paycheck.

Americans don’t have the stomach to leverage their labor. Compare that to the French, who are ready to burn Paris to the ground any time they want something to improve their lives. And it usually works.

Strikes are tricky and you'd need everyone on board for a big enough movement.

A little off topic, but when I was truck driving for my last job, the union workers at the Dole plant in San Diego were having a paid strike demanding higher pay (they already were making 72 dollars an hour. Lmao.). The Dole plant gave them a paid hour and allowed them to protest. They stepped in front of the truckers and would not allow them to enter the facility to do their jobs. I got in an argument with one of the guys and explained to him that their actions are not going to garner any sympathy from truck drivers whatsoever. We make far less than they do while working far more hours, we have deadlines and are pushed to the legal limit daily and physically stopping us from doing our jobs is going to hinder our ability to get to our destinations on time while also putting us at risk for having to shut down our vehicles before we get back to our yards since we legally can't drive past a certain amount of hours in a day. We argued back and forth for about a minute or two and when I detailed this to him, he pretended I didn't exist and went about his strike. Lmao

[zombie]

Keep in mind the consensus public reaction you’ll see online is far more celebratory than anything I’ve said. I just don’t give a shit. Take a look at Twitter, Reddit etc.

Public leaders in America should maybe take note of this.

twitter will find a way to celebrate any attack or murder.

the ceo guy was evil. i don't feel good justifying his death personally, all the same. and i do want the shooter to be apprehended or whatever else may occur. that kind of thing feels good in the movies. it doesn't feel good in real life. that's just my take.

Are you going to be actively bothered in your day to day life if they don’t find the shooter?

no. largely, i'll just live my life.

But there probably are murders that hypothetically would elicit that reaction from you, right?

i mean if someone murdered a public figure i favored, yeah. that would probably be very upsetting and have a big impact on my day to day.

[Reign in Blood]

Gun thread talking about nuclear particle accelerators, dig it!

[Lazerus]

Nuclear was always the way but it’s probably too late to build that up. And it didn’t have to be. The hippies were wrong about that one and they got duped by Big Oil propaganda.

Stupid baby boomers

Yup. Even the things they were right about, they just gave up to get their slice of the pie. Which they now refuse to give up.

Yup, don't get me started on how they've purposely held down Gen X and now the Millennials. Greedy fuckers!

[Jason]

Gun thread talking about nuclear particle accelerators, dig it!

Non-radioactive hydrogen powered cars that won't ignite and cost essentially nothing.

I don't have a quarter of a million dollars to spend on my own particle accelerator though, and I'm sure I'd find some way to blow myself up despite using the deuterium version of hydrogen.

[Lazerus]

Everyone else can have their gold stars for being good and righteous people. It’s fine. I would just ask that you also spare a little time to feel something for the people this guy killed for his shareholders.

This is my dilemma. Did he go about not giving a shit about the overall health of people under United Healthcare and only care about profit even at the expense of death? I struggle to believe this isn't the case.

And also, let's say everyone in the world knows for a fact that this is the case, big pharma and Healthcare CEOs are totally evil and for-profit only at the expense of the deaths of others. But nobody is doing anything about it and citizens are still forced to pay them money and die under their corruptions. How do you stop them? Writing letters? Protests? Violence?

These companies are so firmly embedded in our political system, I think the only non-violent means that *could* change anything would be a general strike, something that is kind of unthinkable in a society that mostly lives paycheck to paycheck.

Americans don’t have the stomach to leverage their labor. Compare that to the French, who are ready to burn Paris to the ground any time they want something to improve their lives. And it usually works.

Strikes are tricky and you'd need everyone on board for a big enough movement.

The problem with that is the young people today can't organize movements for shit. I mean just look at the epic fail that was the Occupy Wall Street crap. Even BLM and Me Too have been fails even though they started with some decent momentum. At least the movements in the 1960's got some shit accomplished.