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Re: Asian small business owner is arrested...
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:02 pm
by Foo
Headhunter wrote:Foo wrote:Headhunter wrote:Tiggnutz wrote:Whole streets of Baltimore work as one big drug dispenser how do you police that. Police affect there income and means of sustainability.
Sensible drug policy.
Just the other day I was thinking that the hood rats in Baltimore need more unfettered access to weed, meth, herion, and coke.
Do you want to reduce violence or moralize for the sake of moralizing?
People love drugs. They've loved drugs for thousands of years. Get over it and build rational, unemotional policy to make the best of it.
I feel like cities should be safe places to raise a family in. Parts of chicago, baltimore, and detroit resemble RoboCop more than I am comfortable with. The ever relaxing attitudes about drugs have done them no favors.
Re: Asian small business owner is arrested...
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:03 pm
by Headhunter
Tiggnutz wrote:Headhunter wrote:Tiggnutz wrote:Headhunter wrote:Foo wrote:Headhunter wrote:Tiggnutz wrote:Whole streets of Baltimore work as one big drug dispenser how do you police that. Police affect there income and means of sustainability.
Sensible drug policy.
Just the other day I was thinking that the hood rats in Baltimore need more unfettered access to weed, meth, herion, and coke.
Do you want to reduce violence or moralize for the sake of moralizing?
People love drugs. They've loved drugs for thousands of years. Get over it and build rational, unemotional policy to make the best of it.
This would be acceptable for certain drugs but it's playing stupid to think it's the same for all drugs heroin,coke and others I'm sure you could name destroy masses and not by regulaton but by their nature
Do they not destroy masses now?
So your answer would be legalization?
Of course.
Re: Asian small business owner is arrested...
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:04 pm
by Headhunter
Foo wrote:Headhunter wrote:Foo wrote:Headhunter wrote:Tiggnutz wrote:Whole streets of Baltimore work as one big drug dispenser how do you police that. Police affect there income and means of sustainability.
Sensible drug policy.
Just the other day I was thinking that the hood rats in Baltimore need more unfettered access to weed, meth, herion, and coke.
Do you want to reduce violence or moralize for the sake of moralizing?
People love drugs. They've loved drugs for thousands of years. Get over it and build rational, unemotional policy to make the best of it.
I feel like cities should be safe places to raise a family in. Parts of chicago, baltimore, and detroit resemble RoboCop more than I am comfortable with. The ever relaxing attitudes about drugs have done them no favors.
The "war on drugs" has made it exponentially worse.
Since you're going with the idealist route, how do you plan on eliminating drugs from human existence? Is it an attainable goal?
Re: Asian small business owner is arrested...
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:04 pm
by Tiggnutz
Don't unify all drugs as one it's the worst possible policy both for people against and for drug laws
Re: Asian small business owner is arrested...
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:05 pm
by Headhunter
Tiggnutz wrote:Don't unify all drugs as one it's the worst possible policy both for people against and for drug laws
Why?
Re: Asian small business owner is arrested...
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:06 pm
by Headhunter
What universe are you guys living in where heroin is not going to be easily accessible no matter what? You're not solving anything, just making fear-based justifications.
Re: Asian small business owner is arrested...
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:06 pm
by Tiggnutz
Simple fact people addicted to certain drugs will resort to other crimes to feed their addiction that destroys communities.
Re: Asian small business owner is arrested...
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:07 pm
by Headhunter
Tiggnutz wrote:Simple fact people addicted to certain drugs will resort to other crimes to feed their addiction that destroys communities.
Again, what universe are you guys living in where this doesn't happen already?
Re: Asian small business owner is arrested...
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:08 pm
by zombie
Foo wrote:
Well, the residents are saying some of her story is inconsistent with the way the building operates and there may have been more to the issue than just a mistake. Like she may have been asking to gain entry to the guy's home and there may have been some recent noise complaints involving that unit.
I have tried to open the wrong vehicle and the wrong hotel room door before, so I think it is possible, but there also could be more to it. Obviously a big difference in an accident and an execution and you have to prosecute correctly.
she's a cop, even if off duty. if she was going to be dishonest, why try for manslaughter or something similar, rather than getting off with no jail time for being a cop who fired at a suspected drug user or something?
Re: Asian small business owner is arrested...
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:08 pm
by Foo
Headhunter wrote:Foo wrote:Headhunter wrote:Foo wrote:Headhunter wrote:Tiggnutz wrote:Whole streets of Baltimore work as one big drug dispenser how do you police that. Police affect there income and means of sustainability.
Sensible drug policy.
Just the other day I was thinking that the hood rats in Baltimore need more unfettered access to weed, meth, herion, and coke.
Do you want to reduce violence or moralize for the sake of moralizing?
People love drugs. They've loved drugs for thousands of years. Get over it and build rational, unemotional policy to make the best of it.
I feel like cities should be safe places to raise a family in. Parts of chicago, baltimore, and detroit resemble RoboCop more than I am comfortable with. The ever relaxing attitudes about drugs have done them no favors.
The "war on drugs" has made it exponentially worse.
Since you're going with the idealist route, how do you plan on eliminating drugs from human existence? Is it an attainable goal?
Why boil it all down to the "War on Drugs" rather than the million other variables? Like a crackhead is the result of a commercial frying an egg.
We have to change the culture. Going to jail is a way to meet contacts and get more street cred. Glorifying drug use is cool.
Re: Asian small business owner is arrested...
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:09 pm
by Headhunter
Druggies gonna do drugs and there's absolutely nothing you can do about it. Why not make the business of it safer?
Re: Asian small business owner is arrested...
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:10 pm
by Tiggnutz
Make heroin legal ok what happens when people don't have heroin? Should the government be waiting to supply it so you don't commit a crime to get it? Nonsense
Re: Asian small business owner is arrested...
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:11 pm
by Headhunter
Tiggnutz wrote:Make heroin legal ok what happens when people don't have heroin? Should the government be waiting to supply it so you don't commit a crime to get it? Nonsense
What happens now when people don't have heroin? There's no difference at all. The same exact group of people will be affected.
Re: Asian small business owner is arrested...
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:12 pm
by Foo
zombie wrote:Foo wrote:
Well, the residents are saying some of her story is inconsistent with the way the building operates and there may have been more to the issue than just a mistake. Like she may have been asking to gain entry to the guy's home and there may have been some recent noise complaints involving that unit.
I have tried to open the wrong vehicle and the wrong hotel room door before, so I think it is possible, but there also could be more to it. Obviously a big difference in an accident and an execution and you have to prosecute correctly.
she's a cop, even if off duty. if she was going to be dishonest, why try for manslaughter or something similar, rather than getting off with no jail time for being a cop who fired at a suspected drug user or something?
Not all plans go as planned. Maybe it was a total accident. If not for the residents stating it is unlikely and introducing other evidence, her story would be more plausible. It still may be an accident. That is what they are investigating.
Re: Asian small business owner is arrested...
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:14 pm
by Foo
Headhunter wrote:Druggies gonna do drugs and there's absolutely nothing you can do about it. Why not make the business of it safer?
Do you think being a druggie is a destiny? Like there is no outside influence that creates them?
Why would I never try heroin, yet someone else does?
Re: Asian small business owner is arrested...
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:16 pm
by Headhunter
Foo wrote:Headhunter wrote:Druggies gonna do drugs and there's absolutely nothing you can do about it. Why not make the business of it safer?
Do you think being a druggie is a destiny? Like there is no outside influence that creates them?
Why would I never try heroin, yet someone else does?
Your idealism is noble, but very naive. There is no means by which you can eliminate human desire to get high. There never has been and there never will be. Sorry. Moralizing about it is pointless.
Re: Asian small business owner is arrested...
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:18 pm
by Tiggnutz
Headhunter wrote:Tiggnutz wrote:Make heroin legal ok what happens when people don't have heroin? Should the government be waiting to supply it so you don't commit a crime to get it? Nonsense
What happens now when people don't have heroin? There's no difference at all. The same exact group of people will be affected.
Well what your saying ends up with the same outcome of it being legal or not. You want to get rid of a possession charge or something? If your house gets robbed by dope fiends your cool because it's legal? Come on man
Re: Asian small business owner is arrested...
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:21 pm
by Headhunter
Tiggnutz wrote:Headhunter wrote:Tiggnutz wrote:Make heroin legal ok what happens when people don't have heroin? Should the government be waiting to supply it so you don't commit a crime to get it? Nonsense
What happens now when people don't have heroin? There's no difference at all. The same exact group of people will be affected.
Well what your saying ends up with the same outcome of it being legal or not. You want to get rid of a possession charge or something? If your house gets robbed by dope fiends your cool because it's legal? Come on man
It's the same outcome for the users. It's not the same outcome for the trade itself. Do you believe there was no difference between the Chicago Outfit supplying alcohol and legal corporations supplying alcohol? Either way, people become alcoholics or enjoy it casually.
Re: Asian small business owner is arrested...
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:21 pm
by Tiggnutz
Maybe we could regulate smack something fiends need all day everyday.
Re: Asian small business owner is arrested...
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:23 pm
by Headhunter
Tiggnutz wrote:Maybe we could regulate smack something fiends need all day everyday.
Do you believe it was better, worse or exactly the same for gangsters in the 1920s to run the alcohol trade, as opposed to legal corporations?