Jason wrote:Obamacare nearly killed me. A blood clot knocked me on my ass, Obamacare held me down for three years of my life that I will never get back.
Did you spend three years searching the exchange for insurance or summat?
Re: Trumpcare 2.1
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 2:07 pm
by Foo
Jmac Attack wrote:
Jason wrote:Obamacare nearly killed me. A blood clot knocked me on my ass, Obamacare held me down for three years of my life that I will never get back.
It definitely has it's flaws, and I never liked it. There are people that I know, that it actually saved their life. One being Amber's best friend's dad. And he hates Obama, lol. Trump and the Republicans are failing YOU....us......on this. You will never admit it though.
I want healthcare that helps you and everyone in America. Fuck the Dems and fuck Trump and company.
......3........2..........1.........before you or someone says "But Hillary and Obama!". Because we can't have a conversation in this country without doing that anymore. And that goes for the other side too bruh bruh.
Bullshit. I am gonna assume this person is low income and they would have been getting served on other people's dime regardless. Forcing people to buy shit never saved a single life. Poor people were showing up in ERs and clinics before Obamacare and were getting treated for a million different ailments from hangnails to bone cancer.
Re: Trumpcare 2.1
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 2:09 pm
by Foo
showa58taro wrote:
Tiggnutz wrote:
showa58taro wrote:
Foo wrote:"This legislation is so great I am proud to put my name on it!"
*7 years later*
It is a disaster of epic proportions. So yes, often doing nothing is better then mindlessly legislating. Republicans cannot agree because there is more variety within that party right now. Dems are united against opposing Trump, and conveniently forgetting they created this disaster.
It has flaws but its also got fixes to those flaws. Half the negative vets arose from Republicans not renewing the market incentivized anyway. Making it more untenable. And the recent issues are all the instability caused by Republicans fucking around.
This is some of my favorite democrat bullshit. It has a few flaws,it only needs to be tweaked a little. One of those little flaws that needs to be tweaked is how to pay for it
It has a fundamental flaw, in that it failed to address medical costs and enshrined the retardation that is the insurance industry. But it also has fixes to the smaller flaws which keep it from being expensive for exchanges and limiting market places for insurers. Ultimately it's the step towards universal healthcare the US needs. It's not the end goal.
So basically, a giant scam designed to backdoor something else that was so unpopular it could not pass on its own merits. Great!
Re: Trumpcare 2.1
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 2:22 pm
by Jmac Attack
Foo wrote:
Jmac Attack wrote:
Jason wrote:Obamacare nearly killed me. A blood clot knocked me on my ass, Obamacare held me down for three years of my life that I will never get back.
It definitely has it's flaws, and I never liked it. There are people that I know, that it actually saved their life. One being Amber's best friend's dad. And he hates Obama, lol. Trump and the Republicans are failing YOU....us......on this. You will never admit it though.
I want healthcare that helps you and everyone in America. Fuck the Dems and fuck Trump and company.
......3........2..........1.........before you or someone says "But Hillary and Obama!". Because we can't have a conversation in this country without doing that anymore. And that goes for the other side too bruh bruh.
Bullshit. I am gonna assume this person is low income and they would have been getting served on other people's dime regardless. Forcing people to buy shit never saved a single life. Poor people were showing up in ERs and clinics before Obamacare and were getting treated for a million different ailments from hangnails to bone cancer.
Ok, I will be sure to take your word over his.
Re: Trumpcare 2.1
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 2:32 pm
by Jmac Attack
In other news, I did watch Trump's speech and was actually pretty happy about it. I would like to see then get something done, but I would like to know the details. Obamacare is seriously flawed. My "bullshit" story above was me merely saying that there are points that people are going to bring up. The good, and the bad. None of us should be happy with our so called leaders. Regardless of party. But some of y'all, I think would kiss Trump's balls if he was in the room, lol.
Re: Trumpcare 2.1
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 2:59 pm
by Foo
Jmac Attack wrote:
Foo wrote:
Jmac Attack wrote:
Jason wrote:Obamacare nearly killed me. A blood clot knocked me on my ass, Obamacare held me down for three years of my life that I will never get back.
It definitely has it's flaws, and I never liked it. There are people that I know, that it actually saved their life. One being Amber's best friend's dad. And he hates Obama, lol. Trump and the Republicans are failing YOU....us......on this. You will never admit it though.
I want healthcare that helps you and everyone in America. Fuck the Dems and fuck Trump and company.
......3........2..........1.........before you or someone says "But Hillary and Obama!". Because we can't have a conversation in this country without doing that anymore. And that goes for the other side too bruh bruh.
Bullshit. I am gonna assume this person is low income and they would have been getting served on other people's dime regardless. Forcing people to buy shit never saved a single life. Poor people were showing up in ERs and clinics before Obamacare and were getting treated for a million different ailments from hangnails to bone cancer.
Ok, I will be sure to take your word over his.
Well, what are the details that lead one to believe there life was saved by a law requiring the purchase of insurance?
I am not asking you to believe me. Believe in common sense. It is like these chicks who claim Planned Parenthood is so critical for their existence, when in reality, it is just freebies for things that are already cheap to begin with.
Re: Trumpcare 2.1
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:15 pm
by Foo
Jmac Attack wrote:In other news, I did watch Trump's speech and was actually pretty happy about it. I would like to see then get something done, but I would like to know the details. Obamacare is seriously flawed. My "bullshit" story above was me merely saying that there are points that people are going to bring up. The good, and the bad. None of us should be happy with our so called leaders. Regardless of party. But some of y'all, I think would kiss Trump's balls if he was in the room, lol.
You know what I want?
For people to stay out of my pocket. I want to be able to go out and make my own way and prosper without liberals justifying their theft of the hard earned money of others. Any leader who has these values, I respect. Those who justify mooching and handouts, I have no time for.
Re: Trumpcare 2.1
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:43 pm
by Jmac Attack
Foo wrote:
Jmac Attack wrote:In other news, I did watch Trump's speech and was actually pretty happy about it. I would like to see then get something done, but I would like to know the details. Obamacare is seriously flawed. My "bullshit" story above was me merely saying that there are points that people are going to bring up. The good, and the bad. None of us should be happy with our so called leaders. Regardless of party. But some of y'all, I think would kiss Trump's balls if he was in the room, lol.
You know what I want?
For people to stay out of my pocket. I want to be able to go out and make my own way and prosper without liberals justifying their theft of the hard earned money of others. Any leader who has these values, I respect. Those who justify mooching and handouts, I have no time for.
Okey dokey.?
Re: Trumpcare 2.1
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 4:10 pm
by Foo
Obamacare saved my life! Lulz.
Re: Trumpcare 2.1
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 4:28 pm
by Jmac Attack
Foo wrote:Obamacare saved my life! Lulz.
Had a pre existing condition, you dummy. Sorry that he wasn't rich. Lulz
Re: Trumpcare 2.1
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 4:30 pm
by Jmac Attack
Back to the original point, I take it you are happy with our politicians not getting shit done about Obamacare?
Re: Trumpcare 2.1
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 4:43 pm
by Foo
Jmac Attack wrote:
Foo wrote:Obamacare saved my life! Lulz.
Had a pre existing condition, you dummy. Sorry that he wasn't rich. Lulz
Great, so how did Obamacare save his life?
All these sad sap stories are short on details. When you start getting details you usually learn Obamacare had nothing to do with it.
Re: Trumpcare 2.1
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 4:48 pm
by Foo
Jmac Attack wrote:Back to the original point, I take it you are happy with our politicians not getting shit done about Obamacare?
I want the government completely out of it. Obama took a greasy smelly dump in the living room. All these "solutions" involve cleaning up half the shit he left there are pissing on top of it. You gotta rip up the flooring and never let another fucker like that back in the house. What Obamacare has shown us is the logical end to letting morons who have never done anything but run for office try to tackle an industry.
Re: Trumpcare 2.1
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 4:51 pm
by Jmac Attack
Foo wrote:
Jmac Attack wrote:
Foo wrote:Obamacare saved my life! Lulz.
Had a pre existing condition, you dummy. Sorry that he wasn't rich. Lulz
Great, so how did Obamacare save his life?
All these sad sap stories are short on details. When you start getting details you usually learn Obamacare had nothing to do with it.
Some wont get treatment and would rather die than put their family in that much debt.
Re: Trumpcare 2.1
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:22 pm
by showa58taro
Foo wrote:
showa58taro wrote:
Tiggnutz wrote:
showa58taro wrote:
Foo wrote:"This legislation is so great I am proud to put my name on it!"
*7 years later*
It is a disaster of epic proportions. So yes, often doing nothing is better then mindlessly legislating. Republicans cannot agree because there is more variety within that party right now. Dems are united against opposing Trump, and conveniently forgetting they created this disaster.
It has flaws but its also got fixes to those flaws. Half the negative vets arose from Republicans not renewing the market incentivized anyway. Making it more untenable. And the recent issues are all the instability caused by Republicans fucking around.
This is some of my favorite democrat bullshit. It has a few flaws,it only needs to be tweaked a little. One of those little flaws that needs to be tweaked is how to pay for it
It has a fundamental flaw, in that it failed to address medical costs and enshrined the retardation that is the insurance industry. But it also has fixes to the smaller flaws which keep it from being expensive for exchanges and limiting market places for insurers. Ultimately it's the step towards universal healthcare the US needs. It's not the end goal.
So basically, a giant scam designed to backdoor something else that was so unpopular it could not pass on its own merits. Great!
A halfway step towards universality because of fierce retardation among Republican lawmakers. Yes.
Re: Trumpcare 2.1
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:25 pm
by showa58taro
John Kasich wrote a great piece in the New York Times about the current state of the healthcare debate. Good read.
Re: Trumpcare 2.1
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:26 pm
by Jason
MAN, the memes against CNN are overflowing the internet after they tried to blackmail some kid for making a meme that made fun of them.
Trump IS Braveheart.
Re: Trumpcare 2.1
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:27 pm
by Jmac Attack
showa58taro wrote:John Kasich wrote a great piece in the New York Times about the current state of the healthcare debate. Good read.
They will just call him a Cuck. Lol. Kasich has been good for the state of Ohio.
Re: Trumpcare 2.1
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:28 pm
by Jmac Attack
Jason wrote:MAN, the memes against CNN are overflowing the internet after they tried to blackmail some kid for making a meme that made fun of them.
Trump IS Braveheart.
CNN sucks. Lol
Re: Trumpcare 2.1
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:29 pm
by showa58taro
Jmac Attack wrote:
showa58taro wrote:John Kasich wrote a great piece in the New York Times about the current state of the healthcare debate. Good read.
They will just call him a Cuck. Lol. Kasich has been good for the state of Ohio.
Guy seems a generally levelheaded man. Quite good for Democracy to have someone like that.
