Liberal Hollywood and the Pedophilia Problem

[zombie]

Do we want justice or mob rule? Men are grabbed too. Shit happens, move on. If we constantly cry about victimization, it just creates a class of people who believe they are lesser. Don't teach them to cry, teach them to fight. If you are grabbed by the pussy, gouge out an eye, don't talk about it on Twitter ten years later.

no one wants mob rule. but we also don't want people to be taught to just keep their mouths shut. no one wants false accusations, but we also don't want silenced victims.

[zombie]

Also, people who are dramatic about an ass pat do more damage to assault victims than anyone. People who continue to support the HOLLYWOOD culture by consuming what they produce are also complicit.

I am complicit because I don't really care.

no, that does not make you complicit. if you watched a brad pitt movie, you are not guilty by association for him dumping jennifer aniston.

[Foo]

Do we want justice or mob rule? Men are grabbed too. Shit happens, move on. If we constantly cry about victimization, it just creates a class of people who believe they are lesser. Don't teach them to cry, teach them to fight. If you are grabbed by the pussy, gouge out an eye, don't talk about it on Twitter ten years later.

no one wants mob rule. but we also don't want people to be taught to just keep their mouths shut. no one wants false accusations, but we also don't want silenced victims.

How about going to the police instead of social media? You know, so that you actually accomplish something.

[Foo]

I want to be clear on two things:

1. Child molestation is always wrong
2. Rape by violence is always wrong

This sexual assault/harassment stuff where people knowingly allow others to assume the worst is bullshit though.

[Foo]

Also, people who are dramatic about an ass pat do more damage to assault victims than anyone. People who continue to support the HOLLYWOOD culture by consuming what they produce are also complicit.

I am complicit because I don't really care.

no, that does not make you complicit. if you watched a brad pitt movie, you are not guilty by association for him dumping jennifer aniston.

Sorry, but the truth hurts here. When you support these products you support the assault/harassment that is part of the industry. You don't get to feel proud you bought fair trade coffee and then ignore the negatives in other things you buy.

[Foo]

And yes, if you claim you are mugged or the victim of some other crime, you are expected to go to the police with evidence to get justice. There are a million scammers out there claiming theft, cancer, and everything else to get money and sympathy, especially in the gofundme era.

that didn't seem to be the point she was trying to make. victims of theft or robbery are not scrutinized for what they did to cause or invite that burglary or theft.

"My car was stolen!"

"Did you leave it unlocked? Did you leave the keys in it?"

Do you really think that is such an uncommon line of questioning?

[Reign in Blood]

And yes, if you claim you are mugged or the victim of some other crime, you are expected to go to the police with evidence to get justice. There are a million scammers out there claiming theft, cancer, and everything else to get money and sympathy, especially in the gofundme era.

that didn't seem to be the point she was trying to make. victims of theft or robbery are not scrutinized for what they did to cause or invite that burglary or theft.

Why not? Definitely not to the same degree, but there were two instances recently that I wouldn't/didn't have much sympathy for. A buddy's teenage son was going down to a huge event at the beach to sell merchandise (t-shirts, hats, stickers) that had already been pretty popular with his high school crowd. Planning to go alone, I might add. We were all like Ahh, you prepared? He's like prepared for what? Oy! This event will draw who knows what kind of riff raff and many people will see you taking in money. Take some friends, watch your surroundings and watch anyone following you, you run a high risk of getting jumped. And don't stockpile the money, when you get a decent amount run home and drop it off and go back etc. Luckily he was fine because he ended up giving most of it away to any hot chick that asked. Another dude has lived in great areas his whole life, recently moved into a bad neighborhood that everyone knows has some bad hombres, he thought he could operate as normal. He left his designer Italian sunglasses and all manner of other shit in his car. First night there? Car is broken into and he has over 2 grand worth of shit stolen from it. Response? Ouch, but are you fucking stupid?

So yeah, they can certainly be scrutinized. Or maybe I'm just an asshole. Both are valid.

[zombie]

Do we want justice or mob rule? Men are grabbed too. Shit happens, move on. If we constantly cry about victimization, it just creates a class of people who believe they are lesser. Don't teach them to cry, teach them to fight. If you are grabbed by the pussy, gouge out an eye, don't talk about it on Twitter ten years later.

no one wants mob rule. but we also don't want people to be taught to just keep their mouths shut. no one wants false accusations, but we also don't want silenced victims.

How about going to the police instead of social media? You know, so that you actually accomplish something.

going to facebook is already not being silent. i said silenced victims.

[zombie]

Also, people who are dramatic about an ass pat do more damage to assault victims than anyone. People who continue to support the HOLLYWOOD culture by consuming what they produce are also complicit.

I am complicit because I don't really care.

no, that does not make you complicit. if you watched a brad pitt movie, you are not guilty by association for him dumping jennifer aniston.

Sorry, but the truth hurts here. When you support these products you support the assault/harassment that is part of the industry. You don't get to feel proud you bought fair trade coffee and then ignore the negatives in other things you buy.

when you watch the crow, you support killing someone by carelessness? when you vote trump, you support using status and influence against women? .

[zombie]

And yes, if you claim you are mugged or the victim of some other crime, you are expected to go to the police with evidence to get justice. There are a million scammers out there claiming theft, cancer, and everything else to get money and sympathy, especially in the gofundme era.

that didn't seem to be the point she was trying to make. victims of theft or robbery are not scrutinized for what they did to cause or invite that burglary or theft.

"My car was stolen!"

"Did you leave it unlocked? Did you leave the keys in it?"

Do you really think that is such an uncommon line of questioning?

no, more like: "my car was stolen!"

"why were you driving an expensive car?"

[Reign in Blood]

Also, people who are dramatic about an ass pat do more damage to assault victims than anyone. People who continue to support the HOLLYWOOD culture by consuming what they produce are also complicit.

I am complicit because I don't really care.

no, that does not make you complicit. if you watched a brad pitt movie, you are not guilty by association for him dumping jennifer aniston.

Sorry, but the truth hurts here. When you support these products you support the assault/harassment that is part of the industry. You don't get to feel proud you bought fair trade coffee and then ignore the negatives in other things you buy.

when you watch the crow, you support killing someone by carelessness? when you vote trump, you support using status and influence against women? .

Why'd you use the Crow? You know he hates that flick and will skewer the reasoning. Plus was that really more carelessness than freak accident?

[zombie]

Also, people who are dramatic about an ass pat do more damage to assault victims than anyone. People who continue to support the HOLLYWOOD culture by consuming what they produce are also complicit.

I am complicit because I don't really care.

no, that does not make you complicit. if you watched a brad pitt movie, you are not guilty by association for him dumping jennifer aniston.

Sorry, but the truth hurts here. When you support these products you support the assault/harassment that is part of the industry. You don't get to feel proud you bought fair trade coffee and then ignore the negatives in other things you buy.

when you watch the crow, you support killing someone by carelessness? when you vote trump, you support using status and influence against women? .

Why'd you use the Crow? You know he hates that flick and will skewer the reasoning. Plus was that really more carelessness than freak accident?

i guess i could have used twilight zone: the movie or something. and it may have been freak accident. i've heard conflicting stories.

[zombie]

And yes, if you claim you are mugged or the victim of some other crime, you are expected to go to the police with evidence to get justice. There are a million scammers out there claiming theft, cancer, and everything else to get money and sympathy, especially in the gofundme era.

that didn't seem to be the point she was trying to make. victims of theft or robbery are not scrutinized for what they did to cause or invite that burglary or theft.

Why not? Definitely not to the same degree, but there were two instances recently that I wouldn't/didn't have much sympathy for. A buddy's teenage son was going down to a huge event at the beach to sell merchandise (t-shirts, hats, stickers) that had already been pretty popular with his high school crowd. Planning to go alone, I might add. We were all like Ahh, you prepared? He's like prepared for what? Oy! This event will draw who knows what kind of riff raff and many people will see you taking in money. Take some friends, watch your surroundings and watch anyone following you, you run a high risk of getting jumped. And don't stockpile the money, when you get a decent amount run home and drop it off and go back etc. Luckily he was fine because he ended up giving most of it away to any hot chick that asked. Another dude has lived in great areas his whole life, recently moved into a bad neighborhood that everyone knows has some bad hombres, he thought he could operate as normal. He left his designer Italian sunglasses and all manner of other shit in his car. First night there? Car is broken into and he has over 2 grand worth of shit stolen from it. Response? Ouch, but are you fucking stupid?

So yeah, they can certainly be scrutinized. Or maybe I'm just an asshole. Both are valid.

encouraging safety and preparedness is not the same thing as shaming someone, when they've been victimized.

[Foo]

Also, people who are dramatic about an ass pat do more damage to assault victims than anyone. People who continue to support the HOLLYWOOD culture by consuming what they produce are also complicit.

I am complicit because I don't really care.

no, that does not make you complicit. if you watched a brad pitt movie, you are not guilty by association for him dumping jennifer aniston.

Sorry, but the truth hurts here. When you support these products you support the assault/harassment that is part of the industry. You don't get to feel proud you bought fair trade coffee and then ignore the negatives in other things you buy.

when you watch the crow, you support killing someone by carelessness? when you vote trump, you support using status and influence against women? .

Let's put it this way, I quit watching football because of the consequences it was having on the lives of the players. I could not in good faith watch people destroy their brains. I have hung in there with wrestling because they have made massive changes over the past decade to protect the talent.

The Crow was an accident. I support Trump because I care about Americans.

[zombie]

Also, people who are dramatic about an ass pat do more damage to assault victims than anyone. People who continue to support the HOLLYWOOD culture by consuming what they produce are also complicit.

I am complicit because I don't really care.

no, that does not make you complicit. if you watched a brad pitt movie, you are not guilty by association for him dumping jennifer aniston.

Sorry, but the truth hurts here. When you support these products you support the assault/harassment that is part of the industry. You don't get to feel proud you bought fair trade coffee and then ignore the negatives in other things you buy.

when you watch the crow, you support killing someone by carelessness? when you vote trump, you support using status and influence against women? .

Let's put it this way, I quit watching football because of the consequences it was having on the lives of the players. I could not in good faith watch people destroy their brains. I have hung in there with wrestling because they have made massive changes over the past decade to protect the talent.

The Crow was an accident. I support Trump because I care about Americans.

choosing not to support something, does not mean that those that do support that something are guilty or complicit for bad things associated with that something.

you support gun ownership. you are not complicit for the vegas shooting. you are not complicit with the orlando shooting. etc.

[Foo]

We can't pick and choose. I support gun ownership because I support the ability of the average citizen to defend theirselves. If Rose McGowen had a gun, she could have killed Weinstein as he tried to rape her.

In doing so, I am complicit in the unintended consequences, as well. I take responsibility. Do you?

[zombie]

We can't pick and choose. I support gun ownership because I support the ability of the average citizen to defend theirselves. If Rose McGowen had a gun, she could have killed Weinstein as he tried to rape her.

In doing so, I am complicit in the unintended consequences, as well. I take responsibility. Do you?

i take responsibility for my actions. not for the actions of others who happen to have something or do something in common with me, nor for people i watch on tv.

[Reign in Blood]

And yes, if you claim you are mugged or the victim of some other crime, you are expected to go to the police with evidence to get justice. There are a million scammers out there claiming theft, cancer, and everything else to get money and sympathy, especially in the gofundme era.

that didn't seem to be the point she was trying to make. victims of theft or robbery are not scrutinized for what they did to cause or invite that burglary or theft.

Why not? Definitely not to the same degree, but there were two instances recently that I wouldn't/didn't have much sympathy for. A buddy's teenage son was going down to a huge event at the beach to sell merchandise (t-shirts, hats, stickers) that had already been pretty popular with his high school crowd. Planning to go alone, I might add. We were all like Ahh, you prepared? He's like prepared for what? Oy! This event will draw who knows what kind of riff raff and many people will see you taking in money. Take some friends, watch your surroundings and watch anyone following you, you run a high risk of getting jumped. And don't stockpile the money, when you get a decent amount run home and drop it off and go back etc. Luckily he was fine because he ended up giving most of it away to any hot chick that asked. Another dude has lived in great areas his whole life, recently moved into a bad neighborhood that everyone knows has some bad hombres, he thought he could operate as normal. He left his designer Italian sunglasses and all manner of other shit in his car. First night there? Car is broken into and he has over 2 grand worth of shit stolen from it. Response? Ouch, but are you fucking stupid?

So yeah, they can certainly be scrutinized. Or maybe I'm just an asshole. Both are valid.

encouraging safety and preparedness is not the same thing as shaming someone, when they've been victimized.

Even in analogy 1, is it that different then saying "watch how you dress, don't get too drunk, don't be alone with that scuzzy dude" etc. and then when it's all ignored and it happens you scrutinize (or shame in liberal terms)? Let me tell you, if that boy did get jumped and was even hospitalized, I still would have been saying you fucking idiot, I done told you! Remember, zombs, victims aren't we all.

Like most anything, it's not all black and white. But we can't operate by this mob rule court of public opinion shit. My main point of contention is that by the day each guy that is accused, their life's work (if not their lives in general) are getting buried. For Weinstein, Spacey, Ratner, Toback, I have no reason not to believe the accusers, and thus they may very well deserve it. But the #MeToo shit is even the level of goosing a butt, where does it end? Some things you gotta stand up for yourself with, and the more serious, go to the police as has been said.

[zombie]

We can't pick and choose. I support gun ownership because I support the ability of the average citizen to defend theirselves. If Rose McGowen had a gun, she could have killed Weinstein as he tried to rape her.

In doing so, I am complicit in the unintended consequences, as well. I take responsibility. Do you?

i take responsibility for my actions. not for the actions of others who happen to have something or do something in common with me, nor for people i watch on tv.

i also don't take credit when those people i watch on tv win an oscar/emmy. i don't take credit for the good they accomplish. i don't take responsibility for the wrong they commit.

[Foo]

We can't pick and choose. I support gun ownership because I support the ability of the average citizen to defend theirselves. If Rose McGowen had a gun, she could have killed Weinstein as he tried to rape her.

In doing so, I am complicit in the unintended consequences, as well. I take responsibility. Do you?

i take responsibility for my actions. not for the actions of others who happen to have something or do something in common with me, nor for people i watch on tv.

i also don't take credit when those people i watch on tv win an oscar/emmy. i don't take credit for the good they accomplish. i don't take responsibility for the wrong they commit.

You don't have to take responsibility, you are outright supporting it with your time and money. Just like with me and the NFL. Simply watching is support. They make money based on my viewership.