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Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:05 pm
by zombie
"For the good of the site, I'm leaving it." <-- maybe i just misunderstood what you meant to say?

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:05 pm
by Jason
Nice edit.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:08 pm
by Headhunter
Well, if you do that's 100% your choice and no fault of anyone else's. You're not going to though. And I won't be leaving.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:09 pm
by Headhunter
Jason wrote:Nice edit.
Yes, Jason. I edited a post. Lose your mind over it.

I edited this one too.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:22 pm
by Jason
Headhunter wrote:
Jason wrote:Nice edit.
Yes, Jason. I edited a post. Lose your mind over it.

I edited this one too.
Are you going to force me to explain to you that my response would've been entirely different if not for the edit...

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:24 pm
by Headhunter
Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Jason wrote:Nice edit.
Yes, Jason. I edited a post. Lose your mind over it.

I edited this one too.
Are you going to force me to explain to you that my response would've been entirely different if not for the edit...
I edited the post to reflect what I thought to be a better understanding of your post. I was wrong both times.

Who cares?

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:29 pm
by Headhunter
This "leave the forum" shit is obnoxious though. Yeah, you may get some people to reach out and reenforce your value to the forum, obviously a nice feeling. You may get me to look like an ass (like I need help with that) and maybe even some people to be momentarily pissed at me. But at the end of the day, I'll be kicking it with my friends here having some good times and you won't be, and that's pretty much all it will be. Save the dramatics, you're not leaving.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:41 pm
by Jason
This needs to be clear, I want no reinforced value by anyone. Do not bother. I've earned none. Yes, you are an ass. To me and only me. You've made it clear you want no part in the olive branch I've extended 1,000 times.

I've really got nothing else to say.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:48 pm
by Headhunter
I don't need symbolic gestures. We're going to argue and get into it because we're both dicks. I've taken issue with two things in the last few days: your reliance on calling people liars or disingenuous when you engage them in arguments, and you flaming me because I called that out, in a thread that had nothing to do with it. You know you were wrong in both cases but because I was the one to point it out, you won't own up to it and give it back to me instead. Threatening to leave the forum is as empty a threat as the million times you were "done" watching football.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:54 pm
by Jason
Headhunter wrote:I don't need symbolic gestures. We're going to argue and get into it because we're both dicks. I've taken issue with two things in the last few days: your reliance on calling people liars or disingenuous when you engage them in arguments, and you flaming me because I called that out, in a thread that had nothing to do with it. You know you were wrong in both cases but because I was the one to point it out, you won't own up to it and give it back to me instead. Threatening to leave the forum is as empty a threat as the million times you were "done" watching football.
Yeah. Not at all how that went down. But I'm done arguing.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:55 pm
by Headhunter
As to the red state/blue state stuff:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/18/opin ... alues.html\

The Republican solution is "don't have sex". Shockingly, people have sex. Will look for sex Ed and contraceptive statistics because while there is good information in here, I'd like to see more numbers.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:57 pm
by Headhunter
Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:I don't need symbolic gestures. We're going to argue and get into it because we're both dicks. I've taken issue with two things in the last few days: your reliance on calling people liars or disingenuous when you engage them in arguments, and you flaming me because I called that out, in a thread that had nothing to do with it. You know you were wrong in both cases but because I was the one to point it out, you won't own up to it and give it back to me instead. Threatening to leave the forum is as empty a threat as the million times you were "done" watching football.
Yeah. Not at all how that went down. But I'm done arguing.
Lol sure, but fine. Are you done holding your HMF presence as a weapon over everyone's heads? You leave or stay, that's all you.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:00 pm
by zombie
Headhunter wrote:As to the red state/blue state stuff:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/18/opin ... alues.html\

The Republican solution is "don't have sex". Shockingly, people have sex. Will look for sex Ed and contraceptive statistics because while there is good information in here, I'd like to see more numbers.
those that would argue against this won't even bother reading the article, cause it's new york times.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:03 pm
by Jason
Headhunter wrote:You leave or stay, that's all you.
No shit. I wouldn't have it any other way. I'm giving you exactly what you want, here.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:04 pm
by Headhunter

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:05 pm
by Headhunter
zombie wrote:
Headhunter wrote:As to the red state/blue state stuff:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/18/opin ... alues.html\

The Republican solution is "don't have sex". Shockingly, people have sex. Will look for sex Ed and contraceptive statistics because while there is good information in here, I'd like to see more numbers.
those that would argue against this won't even bother reading the article, cause it's new york times.
Yeah. I know I'm wasting my time in terms of reaching across the aisle. But I think it's good for all of us to have the information readily available somewhere.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:10 pm
by Headhunter
States that legally guarantee free access to birth control:

California, Vermont, Illinois, New York, Nevada, Maryland, Maine, Massachusetts

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:23 pm
by Headhunter
zombie wrote:
Headhunter wrote:As to the red state/blue state stuff:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/18/opin ... alues.html\

The Republican solution is "don't have sex". Shockingly, people have sex. Will look for sex Ed and contraceptive statistics because while there is good information in here, I'd like to see more numbers.
those that would argue against this won't even bother reading the article, cause it's new york times.
Also, the Times are the most sourced newspaper in the country. Even the Post doesn't have the reach of The Times. And tens of millions in this country believe nothing they publish. That's really not good.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:33 pm
by Headhunter
Headhunter wrote:States that legally guarantee free access to birth control:

California, Vermont, Illinois, New York, Nevada, Maryland, Maine, Massachusetts
To add some context, these have all been blue states for the past three elections, btw.

So, birth control is more readily available in blue states. Sex Ed is generally better and more medically accurate in blue states. And we all know which side of the abortion issue they fall on. So given that, what's the Republican solution? "Don't have sex". Seriously. That's it. And as was pointed out in the NY Times article I linked to, teen pregnancy rates are highest in those "abstinence only" states. So Republicans are really doing great work here...

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 4:27 pm
by zombie
how about adoption? what are the stats there? what does the foster care system look like in blue states vs. red? let's put all of the possibilities out on the table.