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Re: Why I grew to love the Donald and forgive his haters

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 9:46 am
by Tiggnutz
That whole argument is about context not wording and it's been obnoxiously politicized mostly because Trump can't pass up any opportunity to kiss his own ass. The whole thing should be embarrassing for everyone involved except the soldier who sadly died.

Re: Why I grew to love the Donald and forgive his haters

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 10:27 am
by Jmac Attack
Tiggnutz wrote:That whole argument is about context not wording and it's been obnoxiously politicized mostly because Trump can't pass up any opportunity to kiss his own ass. The whole thing should be embarrassing for everyone involved except the soldier who sadly died.
I agree. When he said that past presidents didn't call military families was disgusting. What the fuck is wrong with him?

Re: Why I grew to love the Donald and forgive his haters

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 10:50 am
by Jmac Attack
DancesWithWerewolves wrote:
showa58taro wrote:Seems like being caught in a bold-faced lie isn’t a big deal anymore. Crazy world.
I think we have Bill Clinton to thank for that :P
Buh dum tshhhhh :lol:

Re: Why I grew to love the Donald and forgive his haters

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 1:06 am
by Jason
Turns out that the phony dossier that came out about Trump colluding with Russia and had Russian hookers peeing on his bed, was founded and paid for by Clinton and the DNC.

lol. R.I.P. Russia Narrative

Nevermind. Most liberals will probably still try to cling to it.

Re: Why I grew to love the Donald and forgive his haters

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 2:32 am
by showa58taro
Jason wrote:Turns out that the phony dossier that came out about Trump colluding with Russia and had Russian hookers peeing on his bed, was founded and paid for by Clinton and the DNC.

lol. R.I.P. Russia Narrative

Nevermind. Most liberals will probably still try to cling to it.
Technically incorrect.

Re: Why I grew to love the Donald and forgive his haters

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 2:35 am
by Jason
Jason wrote:Nevermind. Most liberals will probably still try to cling to it.
I already found the first one!

Re: Why I grew to love the Donald and forgive his haters

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 2:48 am
by showa58taro
Jason wrote:
Jason wrote:Nevermind. Most liberals will probably still try to cling to it.
I already found the first one!
Not at all. The point is the first money towards what Steele put tigetger was by GOP donors during the primary through one company. Democrats did also pay later for access to more materials. The money in US politics is staggering. Democrats did pay towards a firm using the Steele dossier. But they weren’t the first and didn’t pay to make it.

Technicalities.

Re: Why I grew to love the Donald and forgive his haters

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 2:51 am
by showa58taro
The Free Beacon paid Fusion GPS first, is what I’m saying.

Re: Why I grew to love the Donald and forgive his haters

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:09 am
by Headhunter
So who's going to be the first domino on Monday? Manafort has made the most sense for a while but there is some speculation it might be boy wonder Kushner.

Re: Why I grew to love the Donald and forgive his haters

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:17 am
by showa58taro
Headhunter wrote:So who's going to be the first domino on Monday? Manafort has made the most sense for a while but there is some speculation it might be boy wonder Kushner.
Manafort. You don’t get your house raised and then not be involved in the subpoena process.

Re: Why I grew to love the Donald and forgive his haters

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 10:17 am
by Foo
The whole funding of the dossier really just confirms what we already know, that the Republican establishment and the Democrat establishment are basically the same thing.

Look how they bond together when it comes to insurance company subsidies. Trump wants to end direct payments to insurers, and they all act outraged. Those payments are the exact opposite of everything both sides claim to stand for, yet Democrats established it and GOP establishment want to preserve it.

Re: Why I grew to love the Donald and forgive his haters

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 10:25 am
by showa58taro
Foo wrote:The whole funding of the dossier really just confirms what we already know, that the Republican establishment and the Democrat establishment are basically the same thing.

Look how they bond together when it comes to insurance company subsidies. Trump wants to end direct payments to insurers, and they all act outraged. Those payments are the exact opposite of everything both sides claim to stand for, yet Democrats established it and GOP establishment want to preserve it.
It definitely establishes how Washington has done business up to now with digging up dirt on candidates, finding ways to exploit that dirt for political gain, and not caring about the outcome in many ways, for sure.

For the healthcare issue, I think there's a fundamental understanding that ending all payments to insurers will negatively impact a lot of normal people, so it can't just be done in a fell swoop of removal and soaring premiums. That's where they diverge again.

Re: Why I grew to love the Donald and forgive his haters

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 10:53 am
by Foo
showa58taro wrote:
Foo wrote:The whole funding of the dossier really just confirms what we already know, that the Republican establishment and the Democrat establishment are basically the same thing.

Look how they bond together when it comes to insurance company subsidies. Trump wants to end direct payments to insurers, and they all act outraged. Those payments are the exact opposite of everything both sides claim to stand for, yet Democrats established it and GOP establishment want to preserve it.
It definitely establishes how Washington has done business up to now with digging up dirt on candidates, finding ways to exploit that dirt for political gain, and not caring about the outcome in many ways, for sure.

For the healthcare issue, I think there's a fundamental understanding that ending all payments to insurers will negatively impact a lot of normal people, so it can't just be done in a fell swoop of removal and soaring premiums. That's where they diverge again.
Where is the evidence that dumping government money onto insurance companies was having the desired impact? Years of rates way outpacing inflation while these subsidies were happening...

Re: Why I grew to love the Donald and forgive his haters

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 11:56 am
by showa58taro
Foo wrote:
showa58taro wrote:
Foo wrote:The whole funding of the dossier really just confirms what we already know, that the Republican establishment and the Democrat establishment are basically the same thing.

Look how they bond together when it comes to insurance company subsidies. Trump wants to end direct payments to insurers, and they all act outraged. Those payments are the exact opposite of everything both sides claim to stand for, yet Democrats established it and GOP establishment want to preserve it.
It definitely establishes how Washington has done business up to now with digging up dirt on candidates, finding ways to exploit that dirt for political gain, and not caring about the outcome in many ways, for sure.

For the healthcare issue, I think there's a fundamental understanding that ending all payments to insurers will negatively impact a lot of normal people, so it can't just be done in a fell swoop of removal and soaring premiums. That's where they diverge again.
Where is the evidence that dumping government money onto insurance companies was having the desired impact? Years of rates way outpacing inflation while these subsidies were happening...
Well there’s the pre-and-post data I guess.

Re: Why I grew to love the Donald and forgive his haters

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:42 am
by showa58taro
showa58taro wrote:
Headhunter wrote:So who's going to be the first domino on Monday? Manafort has made the most sense for a while but there is some speculation it might be boy wonder Kushner.
Manafort. You don’t get your house raised and then not be involved in the subpoena process.
As expected

Re: Why I grew to love the Donald and forgive his haters

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:09 am
by Headhunter
Good call!

Who's next? My guess is Flynn. Take care of the two foreign agents.

Re: Why I grew to love the Donald and forgive his haters

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 11:57 am
by Foo
showa58taro wrote:
Foo wrote:
showa58taro wrote:
Foo wrote:The whole funding of the dossier really just confirms what we already know, that the Republican establishment and the Democrat establishment are basically the same thing.

Look how they bond together when it comes to insurance company subsidies. Trump wants to end direct payments to insurers, and they all act outraged. Those payments are the exact opposite of everything both sides claim to stand for, yet Democrats established it and GOP establishment want to preserve it.
It definitely establishes how Washington has done business up to now with digging up dirt on candidates, finding ways to exploit that dirt for political gain, and not caring about the outcome in many ways, for sure.

For the healthcare issue, I think there's a fundamental understanding that ending all payments to insurers will negatively impact a lot of normal people, so it can't just be done in a fell swoop of removal and soaring premiums. That's where they diverge again.
Where is the evidence that dumping government money onto insurance companies was having the desired impact? Years of rates way outpacing inflation while these subsidies were happening...
Well there’s the pre-and-post data I guess.
Which demonstrates that money did not have the desired effect.

Re: Why I grew to love the Donald and forgive his haters

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:11 am
by Jmac Attack
So, Trump wants to eliminate the student loan tax deduction, which is raising taxes on dudes like D and I. MAGA!

Re: Why I grew to love the Donald and forgive his haters

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 2:19 pm
by Foo
Jmac Attack wrote:So, Trump wants to eliminate the student loan tax deduction, which is raising taxes on dudes like D and I. MAGA!
You're like 50 years old. How much longer do you have to pay on those things?

Re: Why I grew to love the Donald and forgive his haters

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 3:33 pm
by Tiggnutz
When I hear Elizabeth Warren say Hillary rigged the election I just gotta laugh because what the Clintons did was buy the primary. So when you hear the we gotta get the "Fat Cats" argument her and Bernie supported the "Fat Cats" who bought their party :lol: