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Headhunter wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:If the British vote shows anything it's when people are not afraid of ridicule they vote conservative same as here. Polls are meaningless

They're not meaningless. In the long run, they're pretty reliable.

If taking the UK one polls consistently showed Conservatoves in the lead by varying margins and Boris Johnson more popular than Jeremy Corbyn. And that’s exactly where we are.

Reign in Blood wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:Just my opinion but Sanders doesn't even have a remote chance really even Warren and if Biden is the nominee his obvious problems will be on display it wont work.

I get that it's your opinion but you're not backing it up with anything. I've given you examples of how Sanders gets votes Hillary didn't get (and she won the popular vote, which the polls accurately reflected, something conservatives constantly misrepresent).

And you've made compelling points. Unless he shits Jesus, no way Sanders wins.

Where's Trump pulling new voters from?

showa58taro wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:If the British vote shows anything it's when people are not afraid of ridicule they vote conservative same as here. Polls are meaningless

They're not meaningless. In the long run, they're pretty reliable.

If taking the UK one polls consistently showed Conservatoves in the lead by varying margins and Boris Johnson more popular than Jeremy Corbyn. And that’s exactly where we are.

The polls are fine. People's ability to read, interpret and derive meaning from polls --- that's always been poor. All the chest-thumping from Trump voters about the polls after the 2016 election are a good example of that.

Headhunter wrote:

Reign in Blood wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:Just my opinion but Sanders doesn't even have a remote chance really even Warren and if Biden is the nominee his obvious problems will be on display it wont work.

I get that it's your opinion but you're not backing it up with anything. I've given you examples of how Sanders gets votes Hillary didn't get (and she won the popular vote, which the polls accurately reflected, something conservatives constantly misrepresent).

And you've made compelling points. Unless he shits Jesus, no way Sanders wins.

Where's Trump pulling new voters from?

Anyone who won't touch Sanders socialist taint with a 10 foot pole.

Reign in Blood wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Reign in Blood wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:Just my opinion but Sanders doesn't even have a remote chance really even Warren and if Biden is the nominee his obvious problems will be on display it wont work.

I get that it's your opinion but you're not backing it up with anything. I've given you examples of how Sanders gets votes Hillary didn't get (and she won the popular vote, which the polls accurately reflected, something conservatives constantly misrepresent).

And you've made compelling points. Unless he shits Jesus, no way Sanders wins.

Where's Trump pulling new voters from?

Anyone who won't touch Sanders socialist taint with a 10 foot pole.

Most of them won't vote for Trump either. And he's taking some of his original voters back from Trump.

Still don't get why we're celebrating people's inability to understand what socialism actually is. Yay, not knowing things. So cool. So good for democracy.

Who gives a fuck what you call it, he'll still be the closest to that brand of batshit. We'll get there, we're not there yet.

Reign in Blood wrote:Who gives a fuck what you call it, he'll still be the closest to that brand of batshit. We'll get there, we're not there yet.

Yeah, who gives a fuck about factual information and having a clue what you're talking about.

Embarrassing.

You and Tigg do that sorry semantics song and dance all the time, save it for him. I'm fine with just calling him batshit, no one misconstrues.

It's not semantics and your Stockholm syndrome is showing.

If my leaders went out of their way to keep me misinformed by branding everything with a hot button term, I'd be pissed that they think so little of me. You lap it up.

Stockholm syndrome.

Brand him whatever you want. He won't win because he's old, ugly, senile, smelly, surly, generally unsavory in all senses really and most of all batshit.

I also struggle to see how some social democracy concepts are more batshit than the direction of this country in the past 40 years. The growing wealth gap isn't batshit? Our endless wars and military budget aren't batshit? The Wall Street people who fucked everyone over, weren't punished and are now operating with even less impediments than before...that's not batshit?

We didn't cross lines with any of that shit but I'm supposed to be blown away by the idea of helping people get out of student loan debt they'll never escape from because of compound interest? That's just too crazy?

Reign in Blood wrote:Stockholm syndrome.

Brand him whatever you want. He won't win because he's old, ugly, senile, smelly, surly, generally unsavory in all senses really and most of all batshit.

Yes, Stockholm syndrome. You're aware that conservatives lie to you because they know a dirty word gets a favorable reaction. And you don't care. And even find it funny.

"old, ugly, senile, smelly, surly, generally unsavory in all senses really and most of all batshit."

LMAO. Trump is every single one of these things to a MUCH higher degree and you love him.

Headhunter wrote:

Reign in Blood wrote:Stockholm syndrome.

Brand him whatever you want. He won't win because he's old, ugly, senile, smelly, surly, generally unsavory in all senses really and most of all batshit.

Yes, Stockholm syndrome. You're aware that conservatives lie to you because they know a dirty word gets a favorable reaction. And you don't care. And even find it funny.

Why is it such a dirty word? Bernie's cool with it.

Headhunter wrote:"old, ugly, senile, smelly, surly, generally unsavory in all senses really and most of all batshit."

LMAO. Trump is every single one of these things to a MUCH higher degree and you love him.

You keep putting certain words in italics, they have no profoundness for me, so is this a game where they add up to something?

I had a quick 5 second philosophical revelation there. I'd have to think twice about pissing on Trump if he were on fire. I wouldn't think twice, I'd just piss on Obama, Clinton, both Bush's, Reagan (end there). Trump, I'd think about letting him cook.

Reign in Blood wrote:

Headhunter wrote:"old, ugly, senile, smelly, surly, generally unsavory in all senses really and most of all batshit."

LMAO. Trump is every single one of these things to a MUCH higher degree and you love him.

You keep putting certain words in italics, they have no profoundness for me, so is this a game where they add up to something?

Why should I not post things as I've intended? You're being petty.

Reign in Blood wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Reign in Blood wrote:Stockholm syndrome.

Brand him whatever you want. He won't win because he's old, ugly, senile, smelly, surly, generally unsavory in all senses really and most of all batshit.

Yes, Stockholm syndrome. You're aware that conservatives lie to you because they know a dirty word gets a favorable reaction. And you don't care. And even find it funny.

Why is it such a dirty word? Bernie's cool with it.

I don't think it is one. It is for Republicans, because they assume most people just consider it a synonym of Communism, which is ingrained in American culture as a bad thing (and in fairness, tough to dispute that with case studies).

Bernie's also doing everyone a disservice by not distancing himself from the term. He knows he isn't one.

Reign in Blood wrote:I had a quick 5 second philosophical revelation there. I'd have to think twice about pissing on Trump if he were on fire. I wouldn't think twice, I'd just piss on Obama, Clinton, both Bush's, Reagan (end there). Trump, I'd think about letting him cook.

I'd let Trump and Bill (who I consider by far the best president in my lifetime) cook. Skipping ahead, I'd also let Nixon cook. Underrated think twice candidate for me would be HW for all the awful shit that happened in the CIA in the 70s and 80s, but I'd probably squirt one out for him too.