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Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Jason wrote:It's actually a three hour long mini-series and cliff notes wouldn't do it justice.

Save me the trouble and make your own argument then.

There is no "my argument". If I told you "water is wet", you would still argue it.

Socialists must own the disasters of socialism and should never forget it.

So, yeah, you have nothing. Wasting time as usual.

I am clearly just more seasoned in history. Don't feel bad, yo.

It's like you were a History major or some shit.

Tiggnutz wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:It's funny all the politicians preaching socialism have made fortunes off of capitalism. It's sad the amount of people who can't see it. Someone with more houses than most people have cars telling you the danger of wealth.

What they are preaching is social democracy (ex: Nordic Europe) which is a form of capitalism so there aren't any real inconsistencies.

I do not know social democracy what is that I'm being honest

Capitalist economy + lots of social welfare programs.

Reign in Blood wrote:

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Jason wrote:It's actually a three hour long mini-series and cliff notes wouldn't do it justice.

Save me the trouble and make your own argument then.

There is no "my argument". If I told you "water is wet", you would still argue it.

Socialists must own the disasters of socialism and should never forget it.

So, yeah, you have nothing. Wasting time as usual.

I am clearly just more seasoned in history. Don't feel bad, yo.

It's like you were a History major or some shit.

Would have been good for him.

Reign in Blood wrote:

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Jason wrote:It's actually a three hour long mini-series and cliff notes wouldn't do it justice.

Save me the trouble and make your own argument then.

There is no "my argument". If I told you "water is wet", you would still argue it.

Socialists must own the disasters of socialism and should never forget it.

So, yeah, you have nothing. Wasting time as usual.

I am clearly just more seasoned in history. Don't feel bad, yo.

It's like you were a History major or some shit.

Gotta be careful. Leftist college history professors give their students the Wimp Lo treatment from Kung Pow: Purposely train them wrong, as a joke.

Headhunter wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:It's funny all the politicians preaching socialism have made fortunes off of capitalism. It's sad the amount of people who can't see it. Someone with more houses than most people have cars telling you the danger of wealth.

What they are preaching is social democracy (ex: Nordic Europe) which is a form of capitalism so there aren't any real inconsistencies.

I do not know social democracy what is that I'm being honest

Capitalist economy + lots of social welfare programs.

So just a more aggressive stance than we already have?
Would you not get more people for it if you said it like that

Tiggnutz wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:It's funny all the politicians preaching socialism have made fortunes off of capitalism. It's sad the amount of people who can't see it. Someone with more houses than most people have cars telling you the danger of wealth.

What they are preaching is social democracy (ex: Nordic Europe) which is a form of capitalism so there aren't any real inconsistencies.

I do not know social democracy what is that I'm being honest

Capitalist economy + lots of social welfare programs.

So just a more aggressive stance than we already have?
Would you not get more people for it if you said it like that

I mean, pretty much. The inevitable outcome for the U.S. is a social democracy. Corporate interests just have enough power to make it a painfully slow crawl to that point. Really, just reverting to pre-1970s income tax brackets would pay for a lot of the shit we think is crazy now.

Tiggnutz wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:It's funny all the politicians preaching socialism have made fortunes off of capitalism. It's sad the amount of people who can't see it. Someone with more houses than most people have cars telling you the danger of wealth.

What they are preaching is social democracy (ex: Nordic Europe) which is a form of capitalism so there aren't any real inconsistencies.

I do not know social democracy what is that I'm being honest

Capitalist economy + lots of social welfare programs.

So just a more aggressive stance than we already have?
Would you not get more people for it if you said it like that

It's how they weasel their way in, Tigg. AOC got in because of her safe blue district, but she came on too strong with the "unwilling to work" proposal. She outed herself as a dumbass (again, again, again).

Headhunter wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:It's funny all the politicians preaching socialism have made fortunes off of capitalism. It's sad the amount of people who can't see it. Someone with more houses than most people have cars telling you the danger of wealth.

What they are preaching is social democracy (ex: Nordic Europe) which is a form of capitalism so there aren't any real inconsistencies.

I do not know social democracy what is that I'm being honest

Capitalist economy + lots of social welfare programs.

So just a more aggressive stance than we already have?
Would you not get more people for it if you said it like that

I mean, pretty much. The inevitable outcome for the U.S. is a social democracy. Corporate interests just have enough power to make it a painfully slow crawl to that point Really, just reverting to pre-1970s income tax brackets would pay for a lot of the shit we think is crazy now.

I've not heard one person push this. We have gone two far to both ends of the turd and everyone can't see they are holding shit. This is why Trump will win again

Automation killing industries is going to re-shape a lot of ideas about the value of work. UBI is another inevitable policy.

Tiggnutz wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:It's funny all the politicians preaching socialism have made fortunes off of capitalism. It's sad the amount of people who can't see it. Someone with more houses than most people have cars telling you the danger of wealth.

What they are preaching is social democracy (ex: Nordic Europe) which is a form of capitalism so there aren't any real inconsistencies.

I do not know social democracy what is that I'm being honest

Capitalist economy + lots of social welfare programs.

So just a more aggressive stance than we already have?
Would you not get more people for it if you said it like that

I mean, pretty much. The inevitable outcome for the U.S. is a social democracy. Corporate interests just have enough power to make it a painfully slow crawl to that point Really, just reverting to pre-1970s income tax brackets would pay for a lot of the shit we think is crazy now.

I've not heard one person push this. We have gone two far to both ends of the turd and everyone can't see they are holding shit. This is why Trump will win again

Push what?

Tiggnutz wrote:Trump will win again

Headhunter wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:It's funny all the politicians preaching socialism have made fortunes off of capitalism. It's sad the amount of people who can't see it. Someone with more houses than most people have cars telling you the danger of wealth.

What they are preaching is social democracy (ex: Nordic Europe) which is a form of capitalism so there aren't any real inconsistencies.

I do not know social democracy what is that I'm being honest

Capitalist economy + lots of social welfare programs.

So just a more aggressive stance than we already have?
Would you not get more people for it if you said it like that

I mean, pretty much. The inevitable outcome for the U.S. is a social democracy. Corporate interests just have enough power to make it a painfully slow crawl to that point Really, just reverting to pre-1970s income tax brackets would pay for a lot of the shit we think is crazy now.

I've not heard one person push this. We have gone two far to both ends of the turd and everyone can't see they are holding shit. This is why Trump will win again

Push what?

I see one person who can beat Trump and that's Biden if he pushes centrist ideas but he won't be able to he will push far left and all the people who to your face say Trump is a cock will get that bit of privacy and vote for Trump

If the point is that Democrats are horrible at messaging, I totally agree. They absolutely suck at getting their points across. They think people are motivated by facts but they aren't. People are motivated by emotions and Republicans have always been AMAZING at making emotional appeals. The only two who didn't come across as nerds or stiffs were Obama and Bill Clinton, both incredible orators and unsurprisingly, the most successful politicians in the party since the parties modernized into current form.

Tiggnutz wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:It's funny all the politicians preaching socialism have made fortunes off of capitalism. It's sad the amount of people who can't see it. Someone with more houses than most people have cars telling you the danger of wealth.

What they are preaching is social democracy (ex: Nordic Europe) which is a form of capitalism so there aren't any real inconsistencies.

I do not know social democracy what is that I'm being honest

Capitalist economy + lots of social welfare programs.

So just a more aggressive stance than we already have?
Would you not get more people for it if you said it like that

I mean, pretty much. The inevitable outcome for the U.S. is a social democracy. Corporate interests just have enough power to make it a painfully slow crawl to that point Really, just reverting to pre-1970s income tax brackets would pay for a lot of the shit we think is crazy now.

I've not heard one person push this. We have gone two far to both ends of the turd and everyone can't see they are holding shit. This is why Trump will win again

Push what?

I see one person who can beat Trump and that's Biden if he pushes centrist ideas but he won't be able to he will push far left and all the people who to your face say Trump is a cock will get that bit of privacy and vote for Trump

The Dems just need to find someone who doesn't piss off all the working class Midwest people.

Headhunter wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:It's funny all the politicians preaching socialism have made fortunes off of capitalism. It's sad the amount of people who can't see it. Someone with more houses than most people have cars telling you the danger of wealth.

What they are preaching is social democracy (ex: Nordic Europe) which is a form of capitalism so there aren't any real inconsistencies.

I do not know social democracy what is that I'm being honest

Capitalist economy + lots of social welfare programs.

So just a more aggressive stance than we already have?
Would you not get more people for it if you said it like that

I mean, pretty much. The inevitable outcome for the U.S. is a social democracy. Corporate interests just have enough power to make it a painfully slow crawl to that point Really, just reverting to pre-1970s income tax brackets would pay for a lot of the shit we think is crazy now.

I've not heard one person push this. We have gone two far to both ends of the turd and everyone can't see they are holding shit. This is why Trump will win again

Push what?

I see one person who can beat Trump and that's Biden if he pushes centrist ideas but he won't be able to he will push far left and all the people who to your face say Trump is a cock will get that bit of privacy and vote for Trump

The Dems just need to find someone who doesn't piss off all the working class Midwest people.

Joe Biden is that person but who will get behind him

If the Democrats get their shit together, the obvious counter-move for the Trump administration would be to take us into war. That's checkmate every time.

Tiggnutz wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:It's funny all the politicians preaching socialism have made fortunes off of capitalism. It's sad the amount of people who can't see it. Someone with more houses than most people have cars telling you the danger of wealth.

What they are preaching is social democracy (ex: Nordic Europe) which is a form of capitalism so there aren't any real inconsistencies.

I do not know social democracy what is that I'm being honest

Capitalist economy + lots of social welfare programs.

So just a more aggressive stance than we already have?
Would you not get more people for it if you said it like that

I mean, pretty much. The inevitable outcome for the U.S. is a social democracy. Corporate interests just have enough power to make it a painfully slow crawl to that point Really, just reverting to pre-1970s income tax brackets would pay for a lot of the shit we think is crazy now.

I've not heard one person push this. We have gone two far to both ends of the turd and everyone can't see they are holding shit. This is why Trump will win again

Push what?

I see one person who can beat Trump and that's Biden if he pushes centrist ideas but he won't be able to he will push far left and all the people who to your face say Trump is a cock will get that bit of privacy and vote for Trump

The Dems just need to find someone who doesn't piss off all the working class Midwest people.

Joe Biden is that person but who will get behind him

You say Bernie isn't that guy but the Midwest loved him.

Bernie maybe but once he starts spewing socialism he's done.

Socialism is awesome for the base but everyone else sees it as bullshit it won't fly

Yes, the ironic thing is he'd be better off framing his views as what they actually are: a form of capitalism.