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Lazerus wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 11:59 am

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zombie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 11:02 am why is there this need to make it personal all the time? you're not the problem that jig was arguing against, why try to force yourself into that position?

*assuming you are talking to me*

Making it personal all the time? What are you talking about? I was just responding to his BS about taking people's money. And I don't make it personal all the time, I don't get why you said that.

okay. your money is being taken already. when they take it they should use it to help out americans, yourself included. instead, often, it is used to hold you or someone else back. to cause harm internationally. and also to line their own pockets.

While all that is true it's also beyond my control. I don't want to pay any more (extra) taxes or whatever these anti-capitalist keep talking about placing on high income earners. Instead let's abolish the IRS and cut this overly bloated military budget

mark zuckerberg is a "high income earner", are you comparable to that? if so, you're winning, congrats! otherwise, i don't think the tex increase is to take more from you.

You don't have to be a billionaire to be a high income earner.

fair. when capitalist politicians talk of tax breaks. they mean breaks for millionaires or billionaires. not for you. when "socialist" politicians talk about more taxes, they seem to mean for those same millionaires and billionaires.

I was talking about tax increases on high income earners not tax breaks. But okay.

cool. i guess it's a good place to stop if we're gonna read past each other.

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Lazerus wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 10:43 am Jiggy, how is someone struggling to feed their children my problem? I didn't create those kids! Therefore they are not my financial responsibility!
Life is not fair and it's not meant to be. While I can understand how that sounds harsh it's just the truth of the world we all live in.

So your solution is to let kids die while we have the biggest military budget in the world?

I know that under this shit capitalist country, life isn't fair - there is absolutely no reason why we shouldn't strive to make it as fair as possible, though.

So I will continue to fight against capitalism and this shit-hole country and the shit-hole GOP and Democrats who run it.

I can't make you care about social responsibility. You do you. I'll continue to do as I see fit.

I don't like the country anymore than you do but I do what I must so I could live the life I want to live. If my "status" offends you then that's too damn bad. I work my fucking ass off for what I have.

Capitalism isn't going anywhere in the foreseeable future if at all but good luck kid!

I don't blame you for doing what you had to do. I feel bad that so many people in "the greatest country in the world" have been in the same, or similiar, situation that you have, and instead of the system being blamed, individuals get the blame. It's not right.

The wrong side won the Cold War, and here we are.

The Roman Empire was the greatest. Even you know that

The Soviet Union was terrible in so many ways, it was communism. That is very different from Socialism.
However, their innovations and impact on the early days of the Cold War can not be understated. Their biggest problem was government corruption. It's a damn shame the late reforms didn't take.

I agree with you on the governmental corruption. It's a potential problem in under any system. We have terrible corruption in this country in so many ways - something I imagine you would agree with - so it could happen in any economic system.

I do agree that our government is filled with corruption. In my opinion it's inevitable that the United States will collapse by the end of this century if not by the latest the early 22nd Century. The government is over $30 trillion dollars in debt, that is insane. But more importantly we are a country comprised of people from various different cultures/beliefs and the only real thing they all have in common is they hate each other. A society like this cannot stand the test of time.

The collapse of the U.S. would be both good and bad for the planet. The bad part is that it will cause a world wide economic collapse, possible leading to other governments to fall. A real life Mad Max type scenario could follow. The good side though is all of the life changing technologies and shit that have been kept hidden by these corrupt assholes would be brought out in the open and could lead to a much better future for everyone. And of course your dream of no capitalism would possibly come true.

zombie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:01 pm

Lazerus wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 11:59 am

zombie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 11:56 am

Lazerus wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 11:46 am

zombie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 11:20 am

Lazerus wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 11:17 am

zombie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 11:14 am

Lazerus wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 11:10 am

zombie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 11:02 am why is there this need to make it personal all the time? you're not the problem that jig was arguing against, why try to force yourself into that position?

*assuming you are talking to me*

Making it personal all the time? What are you talking about? I was just responding to his BS about taking people's money. And I don't make it personal all the time, I don't get why you said that.

okay. your money is being taken already. when they take it they should use it to help out americans, yourself included. instead, often, it is used to hold you or someone else back. to cause harm internationally. and also to line their own pockets.

While all that is true it's also beyond my control. I don't want to pay any more (extra) taxes or whatever these anti-capitalist keep talking about placing on high income earners. Instead let's abolish the IRS and cut this overly bloated military budget

mark zuckerberg is a "high income earner", are you comparable to that? if so, you're winning, congrats! otherwise, i don't think the tex increase is to take more from you.

You don't have to be a billionaire to be a high income earner.

fair. when capitalist politicians talk of tax breaks. they mean breaks for millionaires or billionaires. not for you. when "socialist" politicians talk about more taxes, they seem to mean for those same millionaires and billionaires.

I was talking about tax increases on high income earners not tax breaks. But okay.

cool. i guess it's a good place to stop if we're gonna read past each other.

I'm am always open for these type of conversations. The problem is, most of the time people get offended because socio economic status is a sensitive subject.

For me, I admit that I do get worked up at times only because I am proud of working myself out of that hole (that I put myself in just FYI). It took many years of hardship and sacrifices but I made it. I do not look down on people who are currently in similar situations.

zombie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:01 pm

Lazerus wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 11:59 am

zombie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 11:56 am

Lazerus wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 11:46 am

zombie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 11:20 am

Lazerus wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 11:17 am

zombie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 11:14 am

Lazerus wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 11:10 am

zombie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 11:02 am why is there this need to make it personal all the time? you're not the problem that jig was arguing against, why try to force yourself into that position?

*assuming you are talking to me*

Making it personal all the time? What are you talking about? I was just responding to his BS about taking people's money. And I don't make it personal all the time, I don't get why you said that.

okay. your money is being taken already. when they take it they should use it to help out americans, yourself included. instead, often, it is used to hold you or someone else back. to cause harm internationally. and also to line their own pockets.

While all that is true it's also beyond my control. I don't want to pay any more (extra) taxes or whatever these anti-capitalist keep talking about placing on high income earners. Instead let's abolish the IRS and cut this overly bloated military budget

mark zuckerberg is a "high income earner", are you comparable to that? if so, you're winning, congrats! otherwise, i don't think the tex increase is to take more from you.

You don't have to be a billionaire to be a high income earner.

fair. when capitalist politicians talk of tax breaks. they mean breaks for millionaires or billionaires. not for you. when "socialist" politicians talk about more taxes, they seem to mean for those same millionaires and billionaires.

I was talking about tax increases on high income earners not tax breaks. But okay.

cool. i guess it's a good place to stop if we're gonna read past each other.

I don't see no stop sign, hit the gas, brah.

My main problem with taxes is, it needs to go to shit that actually helps citizens and what they want. And I live in a state that has completely obliterated any notion of that. Slammed that bar so far into the ground you can't pry it out.

Lazerus wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:12 pm [

I'm am always open for these type of conversations. The problem is, most of the time people get offended because socio economic status is a sensitive subject.

For me, I admit that I do get worked up at times only because I am proud of working myself out of that hole (that I put myself in just FYI). It took many years of hardship and sacrifices but I made it. I do not look down on people who are currently in similar situations.

that is a good place to be, and you should feel proud for the accomplishment. may you continue upward.

Well here's something fun to add to the discussion.

According to this article AOC makes $175,000 annually. And has a Net Worth of $30 Million.
When she was elected to office a few years back she was nothing but a waitress. Now, DC is a super expensive place to live and secondly it's impossible to have a net worth that high on a $175K salary. So, either the article is full of shit or she's getting kickbacks

Thoughts Jiggy!!!

PS- I can't wait for Jason to comment on this!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/wh ... 5#comments

Reign in Blood wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:13 pm
I don't see no stop sign, hit the gas, brah.

My main problem with taxes is, it needs to go to shit that actually helps citizens and what they want. And I live in a state that has completely obliterated any notion of that. Slammed that bar so far into the ground you can't pry it out.

it would be cool if there was some way to opt in or out of whereever they were going to use the money they collected from you individually. i don't think that is something that could be implemented well without a lot of headache and complication though.

zombie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:20 pm

Reign in Blood wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:13 pm
I don't see no stop sign, hit the gas, brah.

My main problem with taxes is, it needs to go to shit that actually helps citizens and what they want. And I live in a state that has completely obliterated any notion of that. Slammed that bar so far into the ground you can't pry it out.

it would be cool if there was some way to opt in or out of whereever they were going to use the money they collected from you individually. i don't think that is something that could be implemented well without a lot of headache and complication though.

How about start by using my money to pave my fucked up road I drive on everyday instead of giving it to a tranny coffee shop 5 "people" will visit. This shouldn't be crazy talk!

Reign in Blood wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:26 pm

zombie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:20 pm

Reign in Blood wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:13 pm
I don't see no stop sign, hit the gas, brah.

My main problem with taxes is, it needs to go to shit that actually helps citizens and what they want. And I live in a state that has completely obliterated any notion of that. Slammed that bar so far into the ground you can't pry it out.

it would be cool if there was some way to opt in or out of whereever they were going to use the money they collected from you individually. i don't think that is something that could be implemented well without a lot of headache and complication though.

How about start by using my money to pave my fucked up road I drive on everyday instead of giving it to a tranny coffee shop 5 "people" will visit. This shouldn't be crazy talk!

Tranny coffee shop? That's a real thing?

Reign in Blood wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:26 pm

zombie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:20 pm

Reign in Blood wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:13 pm
I don't see no stop sign, hit the gas, brah.

My main problem with taxes is, it needs to go to shit that actually helps citizens and what they want. And I live in a state that has completely obliterated any notion of that. Slammed that bar so far into the ground you can't pry it out.

it would be cool if there was some way to opt in or out of whereever they were going to use the money they collected from you individually. i don't think that is something that could be implemented well without a lot of headache and complication though.

How about use my money to pave my fucked up road I drive on everyday instead of giving it to a tranny coffee shop 5 "people" will visit. This shouldn't be crazy talk!

more tax money to city workers and maintenance, absofuckinglutely!

Lazerus wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:28 pm

Reign in Blood wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:26 pm

zombie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:20 pm

Reign in Blood wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:13 pm
I don't see no stop sign, hit the gas, brah.

My main problem with taxes is, it needs to go to shit that actually helps citizens and what they want. And I live in a state that has completely obliterated any notion of that. Slammed that bar so far into the ground you can't pry it out.

it would be cool if there was some way to opt in or out of whereever they were going to use the money they collected from you individually. i don't think that is something that could be implemented well without a lot of headache and complication though.

How about start by using my money to pave my fucked up road I drive on everyday instead of giving it to a tranny coffee shop 5 "people" will visit. This shouldn't be crazy talk!

Tranny coffee shop? That's a real thing?

Come out to the coast. We'll get together, have a few laughs. Headward or D will take you to a tranny coffee bar. Will be dope.

I think giving chihuahuas cocaine was real too. A Colombian tranny opera is weird but giving small dogs cocaine is real weird

Tiggnutz wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:31 pm I think giving chihuahuas cocaine was real too. A Colombian tranny opera is weird but giving small dogs cocaine is real weird

I'm quoting this, because I feel I can use this rambling against Tigg in the future.

Reign in Blood wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:34 pm

Tiggnutz wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:31 pm I think giving chihuahuas cocaine was real too. A Colombian tranny opera is weird but giving small dogs cocaine is real weird

I'm quoting this, because I feel I can use this rambling against Tigg in the future.

If your waiting for me to waste drugs on Latino canines you will be waiting a long time

tranny coffee in california, dogs doing crack in maryland.... you guys are getting all the best stuff. and here i am stuck in the middle, without you.

zombie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:38 pm tranny coffee in california, dogs doing crack in maryland.... you guys are getting all the best stuff. and here i am stuck in the middle, without you.

Aren't you in Colorado? I hear they have some wild shit going on in Denver.

Tiggnutz wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:36 pm

Reign in Blood wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:34 pm

Tiggnutz wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:31 pm I think giving chihuahuas cocaine was real too. A Colombian tranny opera is weird but giving small dogs cocaine is real weird

I'm quoting this, because I feel I can use this rambling against Tigg in the future.

If your waiting for me to waste drugs on Latino canines you will be waiting a long time

What about when you stuff an American Bulldog with coke like he's a fucking throw pillow, you ain't curious how that plays out?

zombie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:38 pm tranny coffee in california, dogs doing crack in maryland.... you guys are getting all the best stuff. and here i am stuck in the middle, without you.

I don't know where the chihuahuas getting free blow are to be clear probably Uzbekistan

Lazerus wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:39 pm

zombie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:38 pm tranny coffee in california, dogs doing crack in maryland.... you guys are getting all the best stuff. and here i am stuck in the middle, without you.

Aren't you in Colorado? I hear they have some wild shit going on in Denver.

i should probably look into denver, a little bit.

zombie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:41 pm

Lazerus wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:39 pm

zombie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:38 pm tranny coffee in california, dogs doing crack in maryland.... you guys are getting all the best stuff. and here i am stuck in the middle, without you.

Aren't you in Colorado? I hear they have some wild shit going on in Denver.

i should probably look into denver, a little bit.

It's a cool place IMO.
I haven't been back there since 2005, a lot has undoubtedly changed since then but I image it's still fun.