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Re: 2025 NFL Season
Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 11:23 am
by Reign in Blood
Headhunter wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 11:20 am
Reign in Blood wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 10:36 am
Headhunter wrote: ↑Wed May 21, 2025 2:51 pm
I like division winners getting home playoff games. Glad that isn’t changing this year.
Just curious as to why versus the alternative Jason's talked about?
I just like the importance of divisions and rivalries in the NFL. I don’t want to see it devalued like in other sports. And a division winner with a losing record has only happened four times so it’s not some huge issue.
True, and sometimes the record is indicative of the division winner being in a much tougher division/schedule.
Re: 2025 NFL Season
Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 11:27 am
by Headhunter
Reign in Blood wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 11:23 am
Headhunter wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 11:20 am
Reign in Blood wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 10:36 am
Headhunter wrote: ↑Wed May 21, 2025 2:51 pm
I like division winners getting home playoff games. Glad that isn’t changing this year.
Just curious as to why versus the alternative Jason's talked about?
I just like the importance of divisions and rivalries in the NFL. I don’t want to see it devalued like in other sports. And a division winner with a losing record has only happened four times so it’s not some huge issue.
True, and sometimes the record is indicative of the division winner being in a much tougher division/schedule.
For sure. If those division winners were just getting blown out every time I could get the argument but they’re 2-2 in those wild card games so I think it’s all fine.
Re: 2025 NFL Season
Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 12:28 pm
by Jason
Reign in Blood wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 11:23 am
Headhunter wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 11:20 am
Reign in Blood wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 10:36 am
Headhunter wrote: ↑Wed May 21, 2025 2:51 pm
I like division winners getting home playoff games. Glad that isn’t changing this year.
Just curious as to why versus the alternative Jason's talked about?
I just like the importance of divisions and rivalries in the NFL. I don’t want to see it devalued like in other sports. And a division winner with a losing record has only happened four times so it’s not some huge issue.
True, and sometimes the record is indicative of the division winner being in a much tougher division/schedule.
Yeah man. I can wait for this year's 7-10 AFC South Champion to be rewarded with a home game against a 12-5 juggernaut. That 7-10 record is indicative of just how tough the Jags and Titans really are.
Re: 2025 NFL Season
Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 12:36 pm
by Headhunter
Jason wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 12:28 pm
Reign in Blood wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 11:23 am
Headhunter wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 11:20 am
Reign in Blood wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 10:36 am
Headhunter wrote: ↑Wed May 21, 2025 2:51 pm
I like division winners getting home playoff games. Glad that isn’t changing this year.
Just curious as to why versus the alternative Jason's talked about?
I just like the importance of divisions and rivalries in the NFL. I don’t want to see it devalued like in other sports. And a division winner with a losing record has only happened four times so it’s not some huge issue.
True, and sometimes the record is indicative of the division winner being in a much tougher division/schedule.
Yeah man. I can wait for this year's 7-10 AFC South Champion to be rewarded with a home game against a 12-5 juggernaut. That 7-10 record is indicative of just how tough the Jags and Titans really are.
A 7-10 team has never made the playoffs.
Re: 2025 NFL Season
Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 12:45 pm
by Jason
Headhunter wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 12:36 pm
Jason wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 12:28 pm
Reign in Blood wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 11:23 am
Headhunter wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 11:20 am
Reign in Blood wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 10:36 am
Headhunter wrote: ↑Wed May 21, 2025 2:51 pm
I like division winners getting home playoff games. Glad that isn’t changing this year.
Just curious as to why versus the alternative Jason's talked about?
I just like the importance of divisions and rivalries in the NFL. I don’t want to see it devalued like in other sports. And a division winner with a losing record has only happened four times so it’s not some huge issue.
True, and sometimes the record is indicative of the division winner being in a much tougher division/schedule.
Yeah man. I can wait for this year's 7-10 AFC South Champion to be rewarded with a home game against a 12-5 juggernaut. That 7-10 record is indicative of just how tough the Jags and Titans really are.
A 7-10 team has never made the playoffs.
Probably will happen sooner rather than later in a division as awful as that one. And I'm also not suggesting a division winner shouldn't make the playoffs.
Re: 2025 NFL Season
Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 12:53 pm
by Reign in Blood
Jason wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 12:28 pm
Reign in Blood wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 11:23 am
Headhunter wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 11:20 am
Reign in Blood wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 10:36 am
Headhunter wrote: ↑Wed May 21, 2025 2:51 pm
I like division winners getting home playoff games. Glad that isn’t changing this year.
Just curious as to why versus the alternative Jason's talked about?
I just like the importance of divisions and rivalries in the NFL. I don’t want to see it devalued like in other sports. And a division winner with a losing record has only happened four times so it’s not some huge issue.
True, and sometimes the record is indicative of the division winner being in a much tougher division/schedule.
Yeah man. I can wait for this year's 7-10 AFC South Champion to be rewarded with a home game against a 12-5 juggernaut. That 7-10 record is indicative of just how tough the Jags and Titans really are.
The Commanders went 12-5, some juggernaut though. *wanks* All 5 losses they dropped were to winning playoff teams (what a surprise!), most their wins were against bottom of the barrel dwellers. Now they went on the road wild card weekend and won. So yeah, it's not much of a problem in the end.
Re: 2025 NFL Season
Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 12:58 pm
by Jason
Reign in Blood wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 12:53 pm
Jason wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 12:28 pm
Reign in Blood wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 11:23 am
Headhunter wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 11:20 am
Reign in Blood wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 10:36 am
Headhunter wrote: ↑Wed May 21, 2025 2:51 pm
I like division winners getting home playoff games. Glad that isn’t changing this year.
Just curious as to why versus the alternative Jason's talked about?
I just like the importance of divisions and rivalries in the NFL. I don’t want to see it devalued like in other sports. And a division winner with a losing record has only happened four times so it’s not some huge issue.
True, and sometimes the record is indicative of the division winner being in a much tougher division/schedule.
Yeah man. I can wait for this year's 7-10 AFC South Champion to be rewarded with a home game against a 12-5 juggernaut. That 7-10 record is indicative of just how tough the Jags and Titans really are.
The Commanders went 12-5, some juggernaut though. *wanks* All 5 losses they dropped were to winning playoff teams (what a surprise!), most their wins were against bottom of the barrel dwellers. Now they went on the road wild card weekend and won. So yeah, it's not much of a problem in the end.
My suggestion is this: out of the 4 divisions, the top 3 should determine the top 3 seeds, while the worst division winner gets seeded based on their record compared to the other 3 Wild Card teams. With so many divisions, it makes it too probable that a great team in a great division finishing second will have to go on the road to a far inferior team.
Re: 2025 NFL Season
Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 1:17 pm
by Reign in Blood
Jason wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 12:58 pm
Reign in Blood wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 12:53 pm
Jason wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 12:28 pm
Reign in Blood wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 11:23 am
Headhunter wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 11:20 am
Reign in Blood wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 10:36 am
Headhunter wrote: ↑Wed May 21, 2025 2:51 pm
I like division winners getting home playoff games. Glad that isn’t changing this year.
Just curious as to why versus the alternative Jason's talked about?
I just like the importance of divisions and rivalries in the NFL. I don’t want to see it devalued like in other sports. And a division winner with a losing record has only happened four times so it’s not some huge issue.
True, and sometimes the record is indicative of the division winner being in a much tougher division/schedule.
Yeah man. I can wait for this year's 7-10 AFC South Champion to be rewarded with a home game against a 12-5 juggernaut. That 7-10 record is indicative of just how tough the Jags and Titans really are.
The Commanders went 12-5, some juggernaut though. *wanks* All 5 losses they dropped were to winning playoff teams (what a surprise!), most their wins were against bottom of the barrel dwellers. Now they went on the road wild card weekend and won. So yeah, it's not much of a problem in the end.
My suggestion is this: out of the 4 divisions, the top 3 should determine the top 3 seeds, while the worst division winner gets seeded based on their record compared to the other 3 Wild Card teams. With so many divisions, it makes it too probable that a great team in a great division finishing second will have to go on the road to a far inferior team.
I could go for that.
Re: 2025 NFL Season
Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 3:47 pm
by Headhunter
Why is it a problem to go on the road and beat a far inferior team? It shouldn’t be.
Re: 2025 NFL Season
Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 3:49 pm
by Jason
Headhunter wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 3:47 pm
Why is it a problem to go on the road and beat a far inferior team? It shouldn’t be.
Because a far inferior team shouldn't be rewarded with an automatic home game.
Re: 2025 NFL Season
Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 4:05 pm
by Headhunter
Jason wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 3:49 pm
Headhunter wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 3:47 pm
Why is it a problem to go on the road and beat a far inferior team? It shouldn’t be.
Because a far inferior team shouldn't be rewarded with an automatic home game.
Not really a problem for anyone. Just win your division and you can get a home playoff game.
Re: 2025 NFL Season
Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 4:56 pm
by Reign in Blood
I think it's because last year, SotaWash had to go on the road to inferior record teams that weekend, made it more glaring. Ideally that should only happen in 1 game max.
Re: 2025 NFL Season
Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 5:11 pm
by Jason
Reign in Blood wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 4:56 pm
I think it's because last year, SotaWash had to go on the road to inferior record teams that weekend, made it more glaring. Ideally that should only happen in 1 game max.
Minnesota was 14-3 and had to go on the road. I know it's the Vikings and they tend to be playoff choke artists but it was criminal that they were shafted out of a home game.
Potential 1 seed or 5 in the final game of the season is too big of a dip for teams that were 14-2 going in.
Re: 2025 NFL Season
Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 5:25 pm
by Reign in Blood
Yes, that's why I didn't pick them.

But it's to Headward's point, for now at least, it balances ok. Sota choked and Washington went onto the conference championship.
Re: 2025 NFL Season
Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 5:46 pm
by Jason
Reign in Blood wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 5:25 pm
Yes, that's why I didn't pick them.

But it's to Headward's point, for now at least, it balances ok. Sota choked and Washington went onto the conference championship.
Mathematically I love that there are 4 teams in 4 divisions, but 5 teams in 3 divisions with 3 wild card teams was really perfect. Jags Panthers Ravens and Texans ruined it by coming into the league.

Re: 2025 NFL Season
Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 5:48 pm
by Reign in Blood
Jason wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 5:46 pm
Reign in Blood wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 5:25 pm
Yes, that's why I didn't pick them.

But it's to Headward's point, for now at least, it balances ok. Sota choked and Washington went onto the conference championship.
Mathematically I love that there are 4 teams in 4 divisions, but 5 teams in 3 divisions with 3 wild card teams was really perfect. Jags Panthers Ravens and Texans ruined it by coming into the league.
Bigger issue is what's you gonna do when the NFL adds the inevitable London, Mexico, Canada fucking Zimbabwe teams.

Re: 2025 NFL Season
Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 5:50 pm
by Jason
Reign in Blood wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 5:48 pm
Jason wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 5:46 pm
Reign in Blood wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 5:25 pm
Yes, that's why I didn't pick them.

But it's to Headward's point, for now at least, it balances ok. Sota choked and Washington went onto the conference championship.
Mathematically I love that there are 4 teams in 4 divisions, but 5 teams in 3 divisions with 3 wild card teams was really perfect. Jags Panthers Ravens and Texans ruined it by coming into the league.
Bigger issue is what's you gonna do when the NFL adds the inevitable London, Mexico, Canada fucking Zimbabwe teams.
I don't think that works and I don't think that's the plan. I think it's to encourage them to create their own football leagues. Probably start out with like 4-8 teams and expand like the NFL did in the 1920s.
Re: 2025 NFL Season
Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 5:55 pm
by Reign in Blood
Jason wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 5:50 pm
Reign in Blood wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 5:48 pm
Jason wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 5:46 pm
Reign in Blood wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 5:25 pm
Yes, that's why I didn't pick them.

But it's to Headward's point, for now at least, it balances ok. Sota choked and Washington went onto the conference championship.
Mathematically I love that there are 4 teams in 4 divisions, but 5 teams in 3 divisions with 3 wild card teams was really perfect. Jags Panthers Ravens and Texans ruined it by coming into the league.
Bigger issue is what's you gonna do when the NFL adds the inevitable London, Mexico, Canada fucking Zimbabwe teams.
I don't think that works and I don't think that's the plan. I think it's to encourage them to create their own football leagues. Probably start out with like 4-8 teams and expand like the NFL did in the 1920s.
Could be, but they've already got a stranglehold on America. All greedy businesses then keep going abroad. Starting from scratch like 1920's in territories or just expand on your gigantic muscle already? They don't give a shit about the players and the travel.
Re: 2025 NFL Season
Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 5:58 pm
by Jason
Reign in Blood wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 5:55 pm
Jason wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 5:50 pm
Reign in Blood wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 5:48 pm
Jason wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 5:46 pm
Reign in Blood wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 5:25 pm
Yes, that's why I didn't pick them.

But it's to Headward's point, for now at least, it balances ok. Sota choked and Washington went onto the conference championship.
Mathematically I love that there are 4 teams in 4 divisions, but 5 teams in 3 divisions with 3 wild card teams was really perfect. Jags Panthers Ravens and Texans ruined it by coming into the league.
Bigger issue is what's you gonna do when the NFL adds the inevitable London, Mexico, Canada fucking Zimbabwe teams.
I don't think that works and I don't think that's the plan. I think it's to encourage them to create their own football leagues. Probably start out with like 4-8 teams and expand like the NFL did in the 1920s.
Could be, but they've already got a stranglehold on America. All greedy businesses then keep going abroad. Starting from scratch like 1920's in territories or just expand on your gigantic muscle already? They don't give a shit about the players and the travel.
Yeah, I'm already annoyed when Denver has to go overseas, which is happening this year. I'm gonna be ultra pissed if they use a Denver home game and send us to Londonistan.