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Re: 2025 NFL Season

Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 11:23 am
by Reign in Blood
Headhunter wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 11:20 am
Reign in Blood wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 10:36 am
Headhunter wrote: Wed May 21, 2025 2:51 pm I like division winners getting home playoff games. Glad that isn’t changing this year.
Just curious as to why versus the alternative Jason's talked about?
I just like the importance of divisions and rivalries in the NFL. I don’t want to see it devalued like in other sports. And a division winner with a losing record has only happened four times so it’s not some huge issue.
True, and sometimes the record is indicative of the division winner being in a much tougher division/schedule.

Re: 2025 NFL Season

Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 11:27 am
by Headhunter
Reign in Blood wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 11:23 am
Headhunter wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 11:20 am
Reign in Blood wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 10:36 am
Headhunter wrote: Wed May 21, 2025 2:51 pm I like division winners getting home playoff games. Glad that isn’t changing this year.
Just curious as to why versus the alternative Jason's talked about?
I just like the importance of divisions and rivalries in the NFL. I don’t want to see it devalued like in other sports. And a division winner with a losing record has only happened four times so it’s not some huge issue.
True, and sometimes the record is indicative of the division winner being in a much tougher division/schedule.
For sure. If those division winners were just getting blown out every time I could get the argument but they’re 2-2 in those wild card games so I think it’s all fine.

Re: 2025 NFL Season

Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 12:28 pm
by Jason
Reign in Blood wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 11:23 am
Headhunter wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 11:20 am
Reign in Blood wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 10:36 am
Headhunter wrote: Wed May 21, 2025 2:51 pm I like division winners getting home playoff games. Glad that isn’t changing this year.
Just curious as to why versus the alternative Jason's talked about?
I just like the importance of divisions and rivalries in the NFL. I don’t want to see it devalued like in other sports. And a division winner with a losing record has only happened four times so it’s not some huge issue.
True, and sometimes the record is indicative of the division winner being in a much tougher division/schedule.
Yeah man. I can wait for this year's 7-10 AFC South Champion to be rewarded with a home game against a 12-5 juggernaut. That 7-10 record is indicative of just how tough the Jags and Titans really are.

Re: 2025 NFL Season

Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 12:36 pm
by Headhunter
Jason wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 12:28 pm
Reign in Blood wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 11:23 am
Headhunter wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 11:20 am
Reign in Blood wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 10:36 am
Headhunter wrote: Wed May 21, 2025 2:51 pm I like division winners getting home playoff games. Glad that isn’t changing this year.
Just curious as to why versus the alternative Jason's talked about?
I just like the importance of divisions and rivalries in the NFL. I don’t want to see it devalued like in other sports. And a division winner with a losing record has only happened four times so it’s not some huge issue.
True, and sometimes the record is indicative of the division winner being in a much tougher division/schedule.
Yeah man. I can wait for this year's 7-10 AFC South Champion to be rewarded with a home game against a 12-5 juggernaut. That 7-10 record is indicative of just how tough the Jags and Titans really are.
A 7-10 team has never made the playoffs.

Re: 2025 NFL Season

Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 12:45 pm
by Jason
Headhunter wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 12:36 pm
Jason wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 12:28 pm
Reign in Blood wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 11:23 am
Headhunter wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 11:20 am
Reign in Blood wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 10:36 am
Headhunter wrote: Wed May 21, 2025 2:51 pm I like division winners getting home playoff games. Glad that isn’t changing this year.
Just curious as to why versus the alternative Jason's talked about?
I just like the importance of divisions and rivalries in the NFL. I don’t want to see it devalued like in other sports. And a division winner with a losing record has only happened four times so it’s not some huge issue.
True, and sometimes the record is indicative of the division winner being in a much tougher division/schedule.
Yeah man. I can wait for this year's 7-10 AFC South Champion to be rewarded with a home game against a 12-5 juggernaut. That 7-10 record is indicative of just how tough the Jags and Titans really are.
A 7-10 team has never made the playoffs.
Probably will happen sooner rather than later in a division as awful as that one. And I'm also not suggesting a division winner shouldn't make the playoffs.

Re: 2025 NFL Season

Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 12:53 pm
by Reign in Blood
Jason wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 12:28 pm
Reign in Blood wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 11:23 am
Headhunter wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 11:20 am
Reign in Blood wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 10:36 am
Headhunter wrote: Wed May 21, 2025 2:51 pm I like division winners getting home playoff games. Glad that isn’t changing this year.
Just curious as to why versus the alternative Jason's talked about?
I just like the importance of divisions and rivalries in the NFL. I don’t want to see it devalued like in other sports. And a division winner with a losing record has only happened four times so it’s not some huge issue.
True, and sometimes the record is indicative of the division winner being in a much tougher division/schedule.
Yeah man. I can wait for this year's 7-10 AFC South Champion to be rewarded with a home game against a 12-5 juggernaut. That 7-10 record is indicative of just how tough the Jags and Titans really are.
The Commanders went 12-5, some juggernaut though. *wanks* All 5 losses they dropped were to winning playoff teams (what a surprise!), most their wins were against bottom of the barrel dwellers. Now they went on the road wild card weekend and won. So yeah, it's not much of a problem in the end.

Re: 2025 NFL Season

Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 12:58 pm
by Jason
Reign in Blood wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 12:53 pm
Jason wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 12:28 pm
Reign in Blood wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 11:23 am
Headhunter wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 11:20 am
Reign in Blood wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 10:36 am
Headhunter wrote: Wed May 21, 2025 2:51 pm I like division winners getting home playoff games. Glad that isn’t changing this year.
Just curious as to why versus the alternative Jason's talked about?
I just like the importance of divisions and rivalries in the NFL. I don’t want to see it devalued like in other sports. And a division winner with a losing record has only happened four times so it’s not some huge issue.
True, and sometimes the record is indicative of the division winner being in a much tougher division/schedule.
Yeah man. I can wait for this year's 7-10 AFC South Champion to be rewarded with a home game against a 12-5 juggernaut. That 7-10 record is indicative of just how tough the Jags and Titans really are.
The Commanders went 12-5, some juggernaut though. *wanks* All 5 losses they dropped were to winning playoff teams (what a surprise!), most their wins were against bottom of the barrel dwellers. Now they went on the road wild card weekend and won. So yeah, it's not much of a problem in the end.
My suggestion is this: out of the 4 divisions, the top 3 should determine the top 3 seeds, while the worst division winner gets seeded based on their record compared to the other 3 Wild Card teams. With so many divisions, it makes it too probable that a great team in a great division finishing second will have to go on the road to a far inferior team.

Re: 2025 NFL Season

Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 1:17 pm
by Reign in Blood
Jason wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 12:58 pm
Reign in Blood wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 12:53 pm
Jason wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 12:28 pm
Reign in Blood wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 11:23 am
Headhunter wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 11:20 am
Reign in Blood wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 10:36 am
Headhunter wrote: Wed May 21, 2025 2:51 pm I like division winners getting home playoff games. Glad that isn’t changing this year.
Just curious as to why versus the alternative Jason's talked about?
I just like the importance of divisions and rivalries in the NFL. I don’t want to see it devalued like in other sports. And a division winner with a losing record has only happened four times so it’s not some huge issue.
True, and sometimes the record is indicative of the division winner being in a much tougher division/schedule.
Yeah man. I can wait for this year's 7-10 AFC South Champion to be rewarded with a home game against a 12-5 juggernaut. That 7-10 record is indicative of just how tough the Jags and Titans really are.
The Commanders went 12-5, some juggernaut though. *wanks* All 5 losses they dropped were to winning playoff teams (what a surprise!), most their wins were against bottom of the barrel dwellers. Now they went on the road wild card weekend and won. So yeah, it's not much of a problem in the end.
My suggestion is this: out of the 4 divisions, the top 3 should determine the top 3 seeds, while the worst division winner gets seeded based on their record compared to the other 3 Wild Card teams. With so many divisions, it makes it too probable that a great team in a great division finishing second will have to go on the road to a far inferior team.
I could go for that.

Re: 2025 NFL Season

Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 3:47 pm
by Headhunter
Why is it a problem to go on the road and beat a far inferior team? It shouldn’t be.

Re: 2025 NFL Season

Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 3:49 pm
by Jason
Headhunter wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 3:47 pm Why is it a problem to go on the road and beat a far inferior team? It shouldn’t be.
Because a far inferior team shouldn't be rewarded with an automatic home game.

Re: 2025 NFL Season

Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 4:05 pm
by Headhunter
Jason wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 3:49 pm
Headhunter wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 3:47 pm Why is it a problem to go on the road and beat a far inferior team? It shouldn’t be.
Because a far inferior team shouldn't be rewarded with an automatic home game.
Not really a problem for anyone. Just win your division and you can get a home playoff game.

Re: 2025 NFL Season

Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 4:56 pm
by Reign in Blood
I think it's because last year, SotaWash had to go on the road to inferior record teams that weekend, made it more glaring. Ideally that should only happen in 1 game max.

Re: 2025 NFL Season

Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 5:11 pm
by Jason
Reign in Blood wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 4:56 pm I think it's because last year, SotaWash had to go on the road to inferior record teams that weekend, made it more glaring. Ideally that should only happen in 1 game max.
Minnesota was 14-3 and had to go on the road. I know it's the Vikings and they tend to be playoff choke artists but it was criminal that they were shafted out of a home game.

Potential 1 seed or 5 in the final game of the season is too big of a dip for teams that were 14-2 going in.

Re: 2025 NFL Season

Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 5:25 pm
by Reign in Blood
Yes, that's why I didn't pick them. :P But it's to Headward's point, for now at least, it balances ok. Sota choked and Washington went onto the conference championship.

Re: 2025 NFL Season

Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 5:46 pm
by Jason
Reign in Blood wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 5:25 pm Yes, that's why I didn't pick them. :P But it's to Headward's point, for now at least, it balances ok. Sota choked and Washington went onto the conference championship.
Mathematically I love that there are 4 teams in 4 divisions, but 5 teams in 3 divisions with 3 wild card teams was really perfect. Jags Panthers Ravens and Texans ruined it by coming into the league. :P

Re: 2025 NFL Season

Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 5:48 pm
by Reign in Blood
Jason wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 5:46 pm
Reign in Blood wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 5:25 pm Yes, that's why I didn't pick them. :P But it's to Headward's point, for now at least, it balances ok. Sota choked and Washington went onto the conference championship.
Mathematically I love that there are 4 teams in 4 divisions, but 5 teams in 3 divisions with 3 wild card teams was really perfect. Jags Panthers Ravens and Texans ruined it by coming into the league. :P
Bigger issue is what's you gonna do when the NFL adds the inevitable London, Mexico, Canada fucking Zimbabwe teams. :P

Re: 2025 NFL Season

Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 5:50 pm
by Jason
Reign in Blood wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 5:48 pm
Jason wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 5:46 pm
Reign in Blood wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 5:25 pm Yes, that's why I didn't pick them. :P But it's to Headward's point, for now at least, it balances ok. Sota choked and Washington went onto the conference championship.
Mathematically I love that there are 4 teams in 4 divisions, but 5 teams in 3 divisions with 3 wild card teams was really perfect. Jags Panthers Ravens and Texans ruined it by coming into the league. :P
Bigger issue is what's you gonna do when the NFL adds the inevitable London, Mexico, Canada fucking Zimbabwe teams. :P
I don't think that works and I don't think that's the plan. I think it's to encourage them to create their own football leagues. Probably start out with like 4-8 teams and expand like the NFL did in the 1920s.

Re: 2025 NFL Season

Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 5:55 pm
by Reign in Blood
Jason wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 5:50 pm
Reign in Blood wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 5:48 pm
Jason wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 5:46 pm
Reign in Blood wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 5:25 pm Yes, that's why I didn't pick them. :P But it's to Headward's point, for now at least, it balances ok. Sota choked and Washington went onto the conference championship.
Mathematically I love that there are 4 teams in 4 divisions, but 5 teams in 3 divisions with 3 wild card teams was really perfect. Jags Panthers Ravens and Texans ruined it by coming into the league. :P
Bigger issue is what's you gonna do when the NFL adds the inevitable London, Mexico, Canada fucking Zimbabwe teams. :P
I don't think that works and I don't think that's the plan. I think it's to encourage them to create their own football leagues. Probably start out with like 4-8 teams and expand like the NFL did in the 1920s.
Could be, but they've already got a stranglehold on America. All greedy businesses then keep going abroad. Starting from scratch like 1920's in territories or just expand on your gigantic muscle already? They don't give a shit about the players and the travel.

Re: 2025 NFL Season

Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 5:58 pm
by Jason
Reign in Blood wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 5:55 pm
Jason wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 5:50 pm
Reign in Blood wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 5:48 pm
Jason wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 5:46 pm
Reign in Blood wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 5:25 pm Yes, that's why I didn't pick them. :P But it's to Headward's point, for now at least, it balances ok. Sota choked and Washington went onto the conference championship.
Mathematically I love that there are 4 teams in 4 divisions, but 5 teams in 3 divisions with 3 wild card teams was really perfect. Jags Panthers Ravens and Texans ruined it by coming into the league. :P
Bigger issue is what's you gonna do when the NFL adds the inevitable London, Mexico, Canada fucking Zimbabwe teams. :P
I don't think that works and I don't think that's the plan. I think it's to encourage them to create their own football leagues. Probably start out with like 4-8 teams and expand like the NFL did in the 1920s.
Could be, but they've already got a stranglehold on America. All greedy businesses then keep going abroad. Starting from scratch like 1920's in territories or just expand on your gigantic muscle already? They don't give a shit about the players and the travel.
Yeah, I'm already annoyed when Denver has to go overseas, which is happening this year. I'm gonna be ultra pissed if they use a Denver home game and send us to Londonistan.