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Re: Exploiting tragedy

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 12:26 pm
by Jmac Attack
Jmac Attack wrote:Instead of just bashing dumb liberals, how about we all come together and bash the backwood pant shitting redneck NRA supporters that are threatening the kids in the latest shooting. Or are they cool? Fucking scum. But let's worry if Gary wants to marry Todd.
This wasn't directed towards anyone here.....lol

Re: Exploiting tragedy

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 8:38 pm
by Foo
Jmac Attack wrote:Instead of just bashing dumb liberals, how about we all come together and bash the backwood pant shitting redneck NRA supporters that are threatening the kids in the latest shooting. Or are they cool? Fucking scum. But let's worry if Gary wants to marry Todd.

How about we blame the shooter, instead of illogically blaming the NRA to make something political that shouldn't be. There is no reason to attack the NRA.

Re: Exploiting tragedy

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 8:44 pm
by zombie
i don't know that they are, but if supporters of the nra are threatening the victims of parkland, they do deserve to be called out and blamed for it.

the boycott going on with the nra and nratv is very petty though. freedom of speech should be upheld in their case as it should be for those on the left. it shouldn't be fought or attempted to brought down from either side.

Re: Exploiting tragedy

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 8:54 pm
by Foo
zombie wrote:i don't know that they are, but if supporters of the nra are threatening the victims of parkland, they do deserve to be called out and blamed for it.

the boycott going on with the nra and nratv is very petty though. freedom of speech should be upheld in their case as it should be for those on the left. it shouldn't be fought or attempted to brought down from either side.
I have not seen these attacks. Probably false flag attacks anyway if there is any actual threat.

If it was legit anger, it would be with the police, the FBI, the shooter, etc. The NRA stuff is so phony it is pathetic.

Re: Exploiting tragedy

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 8:59 pm
by zombie
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:i don't know that they are, but if supporters of the nra are threatening the victims of parkland, they do deserve to be called out and blamed for it.

the boycott going on with the nra and nratv is very petty though. freedom of speech should be upheld in their case as it should be for those on the left. it shouldn't be fought or attempted to brought down from either side.
I have not seen these attacks. Probably false flag attacks anyway if there is any actual threat.

If it was legit anger, it would be with the police, t
he FBI, the shooter, etc. The NRA stuff is so phony it is pathetic.
if you know it to be false, show me how you know. otherwise, i'm not going to make a judgment one way or the other. i did see some pretty shitty callous stuff coming from right wingers, so it's possible that it also came from nra supporters. i don't know for sure.

and there is anger and investigation with the police and the fbi. the shooter is scum and that goes without saying.

Re: Exploiting tragedy

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 9:04 pm
by Foo
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:i don't know that they are, but if supporters of the nra are threatening the victims of parkland, they do deserve to be called out and blamed for it.

the boycott going on with the nra and nratv is very petty though. freedom of speech should be upheld in their case as it should be for those on the left. it shouldn't be fought or attempted to brought down from either side.
I have not seen these attacks. Probably false flag attacks anyway if there is any actual threat.

If it was legit anger, it would be with the police, t
he FBI, the shooter, etc. The NRA stuff is so phony it is pathetic.
if you know it to be false, show me how you know. otherwise, i'm not going to make a judgment one way or the other. i did see some pretty shitty callous stuff coming from right wingers, so it's possible that it also came from nra supporters. i don't know for sure.

and there is anger and investigation with the police and the fbi. the shooter is scum and that goes without saying.
I have not seen the threats.

Re: Exploiting tragedy

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 9:09 pm
by zombie
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:i don't know that they are, but if supporters of the nra are threatening the victims of parkland, they do deserve to be called out and blamed for it.

the boycott going on with the nra and nratv is very petty though. freedom of speech should be upheld in their case as it should be for those on the left. it shouldn't be fought or attempted to brought down from either side.
I have not seen these attacks. Probably false flag attacks anyway if there is any actual threat.

If it was legit anger, it would be with the police, t
he FBI, the shooter, etc. The NRA stuff is so phony it is pathetic.
if you know it to be false, show me how you know. otherwise, i'm not going to make a judgment one way or the other. i did see some pretty shitty callous stuff coming from right wingers, so it's possible that it also came from nra supporters. i don't know for sure.

and there is anger and investigation with the police and the fbi. the shooter is scum and that goes without saying.
I have not seen the threats.
from the nra supporters, like jmac said? me neither. so i don't know if it's real or not.

Re: Exploiting tragedy

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 9:12 pm
by Foo
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:i don't know that they are, but if supporters of the nra are threatening the victims of parkland, they do deserve to be called out and blamed for it.

the boycott going on with the nra and nratv is very petty though. freedom of speech should be upheld in their case as it should be for those on the left. it shouldn't be fought or attempted to brought down from either side.
I have not seen these attacks. Probably false flag attacks anyway if there is any actual threat.

If it was legit anger, it would be with the police, t
he FBI, the shooter, etc. The NRA stuff is so phony it is pathetic.
if you know it to be false, show me how you know. otherwise, i'm not going to make a judgment one way or the other. i did see some pretty shitty callous stuff coming from right wingers, so it's possible that it also came from nra supporters. i don't know for sure.

and there is anger and investigation with the police and the fbi. the shooter is scum and that goes without saying.
I have not seen the threats.
from the nra supporters, like jmac said? me neither. so i don't know if it's real or not.
Sounds pretty unlikely. They were probably Russians.

Re: Exploiting tragedy

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:51 pm
by zombie
Jason wrote:Liberals, defend this:

News media (CNN of course) asked a student who shielded classmates from gunfire to write a speech and questions for when they came to the school. When his speech and questions were pro-gun, they sent him back a scripted list of questions to ask CNN. He refused to attend.
we should all take some time to actually see where a story goes before running with it. careful that you don't spread false news.


Re: Exploiting tragedy

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 7:58 pm
by showa58taro
Look at him squirm at having to concede temporary failure. What a cunt.

Re: Exploiting tragedy

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:27 pm
by Jason
Good for Fox News. They could've just totally ignored it, because it is still a he-said she-said thing.

I don't watch Fox News, but it is good to know they have some journalistic integrity, apparently.

Re: Exploiting tragedy

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:30 pm
by zombie
you were trying to pass it off as fact, not just gossip. there's no proof that cnn did anything wrong or dishonest there, and the father admitted to altering the email. so yeah.

Re: Exploiting tragedy

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:09 am
by showa58taro
LMAO!

Wow

Re: Exploiting tragedy

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:28 am
by Tiggnutz
Everyone does that shit real journalism is a thing of the past. Facts are just obstacles in the way of a good narrative.

Re: Exploiting tragedy

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:22 am
by showa58taro
Tiggnutz wrote:Everyone does that shit real journalism is a thing of the past. Facts are just obstacles in the way of a good narrative.
Not in Europe. Maybe in the US if you’re considering Fox News as a “source” :P

Re: Exploiting tragedy

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:28 am
by Tiggnutz
showa58taro wrote:
Tiggnutz wrote:Everyone does that shit real journalism is a thing of the past. Facts are just obstacles in the way of a good narrative.
Not in Europe. Maybe in the US if you’re considering Fox News as a “source” :P
CNN is actually worse than FOX imo and MSNBC doesn't even pretend to be honest. None qualify as news to me. I do enjoy Jake Tapper on CNN and Martha McCallum on FOX though they do seem to be very level and unbiased to me.

Re: Exploiting tragedy

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:00 am
by Jason
zombie wrote:you were trying to pass it off as fact, not just gossip. there's no proof that cnn did anything wrong or dishonest there, and the father admitted to altering the email. so yeah.
Probably is fact. Totally fits the CNN pattern. Regardless if this particular thing is fact, they are dishonest every day, on a far more damaging scale to humanity than this incident.

And if CNN is totally the victim here, it's still good, because they received a very tiny dose of their own medicine.

Re: Exploiting tragedy

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:08 am
by showa58taro
Tiggnutz wrote:
showa58taro wrote:
Tiggnutz wrote:Everyone does that shit real journalism is a thing of the past. Facts are just obstacles in the way of a good narrative.
Not in Europe. Maybe in the US if you’re considering Fox News as a “source” :P
CNN is actually worse than FOX imo and MSNBC doesn't even pretend to be honest. None qualify as news to me. I do enjoy Jake Tapper on CNN and Martha McCallum on FOX though they do seem to be very level and unbiased to me.
Maybe on the TV. Still looks different in writing to me on CNN international and the like. Real facts checked etc.

Re: Exploiting tragedy

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:14 am
by zombie
Jason wrote:
zombie wrote:you were trying to pass it off as fact, not just gossip. there's no proof that cnn did anything wrong or dishonest there, and the father admitted to altering the email. so yeah.
Probably is fact. Totally fits the CNN pattern. Regardless if this particular thing is fact, they are dishonest every day, on a far more damaging scale to humanity than this incident.

And if CNN is totally the victim here, it's still good, because they received a very tiny dose of their own medicine.
if you're cool with spreading or perpetuating fake news, fair enough. but when you call it out and blame news sources for doing it, then turn around and do it yourself and back pedal when you have the chance to correct yourself.. i don't know what else to say.

Re: Exploiting tragedy

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:43 am
by Jmac Attack
Tiggnutz wrote:
showa58taro wrote:
Tiggnutz wrote:Everyone does that shit real journalism is a thing of the past. Facts are just obstacles in the way of a good narrative.
Not in Europe. Maybe in the US if you’re considering Fox News as a “source” :P
CNN is actually worse than FOX imo and MSNBC doesn't even pretend to be honest. None qualify as news to me. I do enjoy Jake Tapper on CNN and Martha McCallum on FOX though they do seem to be very level and unbiased to me.
I like Jake Tapper and Martha too.