Foo wrote:Jigsaw wrote:Foo wrote:Jigsaw wrote:Foo wrote:Jigsaw wrote:zombie wrote:outing someone as gay or trans. revealing that someone is a rapist. revealing that someone has cheated on their wife. revealing that someone slept with a prostitute. it should all be treated the same way, seemed to be what you were going for.
If someone is a rapist, I have no problem with their face being plastered all over town, because others need to know to watch out for them, or at least be wary.
If someone is gay, that hurts no one, so no one has any right to out such a person.
How about the time when the person is falsely accused? Are you cool with their face having been plastered all over town?
Ask the wives of gay men who end up with AIDS from their husband if him being gay hurt them.
If it turns out that the individual was indeed falsely accused, that's great. But I would rather people know beforehand any possible danger of sexual assault or rape as opposed to a rapist sexually assaulting multiple others because they have some right to "privacy."
Being gay didn't hurt the wives. Living in a society that looks down upon homosexuals and caused the gay men to marry women in the first place is the problem. Ideally, if a gay man knows he has aids, he should leave the wife, be honest with her, or at the very least, stop having sex with her. But it all depends on the situation.
Do you know how many people are ostracized because people think they look creepy and rumors are spread? And how it impacts their lives? You think we should be free to spread around shit about anyone we don't like and then just disappear when it is proved otherwise. That sounds like an awful society.
Some gay men want a family and are not gay the entire time. I worked with one. He and his wife split when his child became an adult.
He was gay all time. He just apparently didn't want to leave his marriage before his son grew up. But he was gay during all of it. If he wasn't, then he'd be bisexual, not gay.
And I didn't say those who make, what turn out to be, false accusations get to go hide. I think there should be investigations into why they made that allegation, and depending on the findings ("Oh, I was just pissed he keyed my car, so I made up a story of how he took advantage of me"), then I think there should be penalties, be it fines or short terms in jail.
He is an intelligent, articulate gentleman who is mega successful. I think I will take his description of his own sexuality over your description of his sexuality.
Have you considered that sometimes people make false allegations that they actually believe? You gonna fine them or put them is jail? Why not let it play out the way it is supposed to, through the legal system?
Well, since I've seen no evidence that people can choose their sexual orientation, I will maintain my belief that he was always gay or bisexual.
Sure, but if someone is making a false allegation that they believe to be true, how is that verified? I have no idea, but if it can be verified, of course you wouldn't demand jail time or fines. If they believed the allegation true, then the innocent individual accused can accept an apology and move on.
Because some police officers ask women what they are wearing when an alleged rape occurs, which doesn't matter. Women are raped and never file reports, and when they do, they get gag orders from the courts so they can't talk about it.
For women and victims of rape in this country, the legal system right now is a joke. If a woman is raped, the first thing I would recommend doing, after medical care and a rape kit (many of which are never processed) is to publicly out the individual who raped them, and then go to the authorities to see if they'll do anything about it.