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And if you really want to advance any cause, don't use an annoying voice as fuck chick. Just food for thought.

Didn't watch the video, not going to. Don't see how people can watch things like this and feel good about it, whatever your beliefs are.

Headhunter wrote:Didn't watch the video, not going to. Don't see how people can watch things like this and feel good about it, whatever your beliefs are.

What if it was a bunch of gangbangers getting busted after robbing an old grandma's house and beating her with a chain to death? Not gonna feel good, but I'd be perfectly fine with it.

Misery is misery. It’s not worth watching it. There’s enough to go around.

The agitators got exactly what they were asking for. I hate these situations because the result is more militarized police with more aggressive training. I am not the biggest police fan in the world, but I understand the necessity. Creating these situations helps no one. Had they wanted to peacefully protest and then be put in jail to be heard, there are ways to accomplish that without a scary scene.

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Headhunter wrote:Didn't watch the video, not going to. Don't see how people can watch things like this and feel good about it, whatever your beliefs are.

What if it was a bunch of gangbangers getting busted after robbing an old grandma's house and beating her with a chain to death? Not gonna feel good, but I'd be perfectly fine with it.

The difference between "They deserved it" and "I enjoyed seeing it happen to them" is Grand Canyon big in any case.

ICE is a great example of this chasm. There's a huge difference between thinking ICE is doing the right thing, and finding enjoyment in seeing families be separated and peoples' lives uprooted.

Headhunter wrote:

Reign in Blood wrote:

Headhunter wrote:Didn't watch the video, not going to. Don't see how people can watch things like this and feel good about it, whatever your beliefs are.

What if it was a bunch of gangbangers getting busted after robbing an old grandma's house and beating her with a chain to death? Not gonna feel good, but I'd be perfectly fine with it.

The difference between "They deserved it" and "I enjoyed seeing it happen to them" is Grand Canyon big in any case.

ICE is a great example of this chasm. There's a huge difference between thinking ICE is doing the right thing, and finding enjoyment in seeing families be separated and peoples' lives uprooted.

I hate seeing families separated when people come here for a better life, but it really has become a necessity. It is a harsh wake up call, but the soft ones never work.

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Headhunter wrote:

Reign in Blood wrote:

Headhunter wrote:Didn't watch the video, not going to. Don't see how people can watch things like this and feel good about it, whatever your beliefs are.

What if it was a bunch of gangbangers getting busted after robbing an old grandma's house and beating her with a chain to death? Not gonna feel good, but I'd be perfectly fine with it.

The difference between "They deserved it" and "I enjoyed seeing it happen to them" is Grand Canyon big in any case.

ICE is a great example of this chasm. There's a huge difference between thinking ICE is doing the right thing, and finding enjoyment in seeing families be separated and peoples' lives uprooted.

I hate seeing families separated when people come here for a better life, but it really has become a necessity. It is a harsh wake up call, but the soft ones never work.

You have principles. Too many others are basically just MAGA fanboys who treat ideological issues like competitive sports. Getting joy out of people suffering is a pretty sorry way to live.

As for the issue itself, I don't see the necessity at all. Increased border security in the past 50 years made things worse by ending the cyclical migration and keeping everyone locked in and hiding.

Headhunter wrote:

Foo wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Reign in Blood wrote:

Headhunter wrote:Didn't watch the video, not going to. Don't see how people can watch things like this and feel good about it, whatever your beliefs are.

What if it was a bunch of gangbangers getting busted after robbing an old grandma's house and beating her with a chain to death? Not gonna feel good, but I'd be perfectly fine with it.

The difference between "They deserved it" and "I enjoyed seeing it happen to them" is Grand Canyon big in any case.

ICE is a great example of this chasm. There's a huge difference between thinking ICE is doing the right thing, and finding enjoyment in seeing families be separated and peoples' lives uprooted.

I hate seeing families separated when people come here for a better life, but it really has become a necessity. It is a harsh wake up call, but the soft ones never work.

You have principles. Too many others are basically just MAGA fanboys who treat ideological issues like competitive sports. Getting joy out of people suffering is a pretty sorry way to live.

As for the issue itself, I don't see the necessity at all. Increased border security in the past 50 years made things worse by ending the cyclical migration and keeping everyone locked in and hiding.

Would love to see the US-Mexican border be like the US-Canada border, but Mexico has a lot of work to do to get there. I can't help but think many of those who migrate here would be making Mexico a better place towards that end.

Like has happened in Venezuela recently. My girlfriend knows tons of young professionals, mostly dentists and doctors. They have all left the country. The people who stayed behind are less skilled with fewer resources, or those who are ok with living in a bad situation.