DancesWithWerewolves wrote:I know people speculate about Spacey all the time because he's super private. So I'm not surprised that's brought up.
He likes them young and he likes anonymity. He has been caught at gay hangouts during the wee hours.
young does not mean children. gay does not mean pedophile. if he is a pedophile, show proof. if he's not, don't try to force the association onto him.
Is this where we pretend the same sleazy old gays who like barely legal men do not like the ones who are barely illegal as well? Not buying it. If you don't believe the same dudes in their 30's-70's who are prowling around clubs and parties that cater to the under 21 crowd are attracted to boys, I have a bridge to sell you.
i'm not into convicting people based on hearsay and speculation alone. sell me the bridge. *shrug*
Would also like to point out the incredibly high rate of child molestation by gay males and also the explosive growth of teenage male prostitutes. Over the last decade, prostitution among gay male teens is up like 500%.
DancesWithWerewolves wrote:I know people speculate about Spacey all the time because he's super private. So I'm not surprised that's brought up.
He likes them young and he likes anonymity. He has been caught at gay hangouts during the wee hours.
young does not mean children. gay does not mean pedophile. if he is a pedophile, show proof. if he's not, don't try to force the association onto him.
Is this where we pretend the same sleazy old gays who like barely legal men do not like the ones who are barely illegal as well? Not buying it. If you don't believe the same dudes in their 30's-70's who are prowling around clubs and parties that cater to the under 21 crowd are attracted to boys, I have a bridge to sell you.
i'm not into convicting people based on hearsay and speculation alone. sell me the bridge. *shrug*
I am not a criminal court, but I would not allow my children with any of those perverts.
Reign in Blood wrote:Zombs has a point. Singer and Spacey might wait until their 18th to defile them.
18 year olds can have consensual sex. Old dudes who bang 18 year old girls are not called pedos
That's why I said zombs has a point. Just because they like em young and are gay doesn't make em pedos. And they got the money and the fame to pull that in.
Reign in Blood wrote:Zombs has a point. Singer and Spacey might wait until their 18th to defile them.
18 year olds can have consensual sex. Old dudes who bang 18 year old girls are not called pedos
Depending on the state, so can 13 year olds (which last I checked was the cap for legal definition of a Pedo, gotta be into pre-puberty to be labeled that). I think it was Mississippi or something that was 13.
To me, the law matters less than the intent. Is it really any less sinister for a 50 year old to have sex with a 15 year old because the law is different in that state/country? Morals>Laws
Foo wrote:To me, the law matters less than the intent. Is it really any less sinister for a 50 year old to have sex with a 15 year old because the law is different in that state/country? Morals>Laws
agreed. laws can be changed or twisted to provide cover. i think the action is what matters, not whether you can be punished under the law for said action.
Tiggnutz wrote:I really thought it was 18 across the board. 13 is pretty young i would imagine pedos would be flocking there like old people flock to Florida.
Tiggnutz wrote:I really thought it was 18 across the board. 13 is pretty young i would imagine pedos would be flocking there like old people flock to Florida.
Tiggnutz wrote:I really thought it was 18 across the board. 13 is pretty young i would imagine pedos would be flocking there like old people flock to Florida.
16-18 by state. Nothing lower than 16. Even in hick country.
Ah, they must've updated, because it used to dip down to 13.
Probably. Seems odd to not just have a standard cut-off for the whole country. Instead a couple could go from being a couple in one state to bring one part of a statutory rape act in the next.
Tiggnutz wrote:I really thought it was 18 across the board. 13 is pretty young i would imagine pedos would be flocking there like old people flock to Florida.
16-18 by state. Nothing lower than 16. Even in hick country.
Ah, they must've updated, because it used to dip down to 13.
Probably. Seems odd to not just have a standard cut-off for the whole country. Instead a couple could go from being a couple in one state to bring one part of a statutory rape act in the next.
I guess we're still stubborn about letting states do their own thing, which was the idea anyway.
I remember it was old HMF that I posted the links to the old ages. Alas that is long gone.
Tiggnutz wrote:I really thought it was 18 across the board. 13 is pretty young i would imagine pedos would be flocking there like old people flock to Florida.
16-18 by state. Nothing lower than 16. Even in hick country.
Ah, they must've updated, because it used to dip down to 13.
Probably. Seems odd to not just have a standard cut-off for the whole country. Instead a couple could go from being a couple in one state to bring one part of a statutory rape act in the next.
I guess we're still stubborn about letting states do their own thing, which was the idea anyway.
I remember it was old HMF that I posted the links to the old ages. Alas that is long gone.
Still plenty of horror shows globally. Nigeria has 11. Philippines has 12. Japan has 13.
I remember an old school project where we were to interview someone we respected and I chose my grandmother, shortly after the death of my grandfather. It came up that she was 14 when my grandfather, then aged 24, and she started their relationship. When we talked about it, it was the culture in that area at that time. They lived in near isolation in a small mountain town. It was almost arranged in the sense that there were so few children, that they were introduced to each other, and sometimes there just were not that many options in your own age group. Plus, the culture was the men worked in the mines and the women had babies young.
It seemed weird for sure looking through the lens of today's lifestyle, but my grandfather was not educated and had no outside information, so it was not like he had grown so much intellectually in those additional years. They didn't have newspapers or TV, or any outside influence. They didn't know any different.
Foo wrote:I remember an old school project where we were to interview someone we respected and I chose my grandmother, shortly after the death of my grandfather. It came up that she was 14 when my grandfather, then aged 24, and she started their relationship. When we talked about it, it was the culture in that area at that time. They lived in near isolation in a small mountain town. It was almost arranged in the sense that there were so few children, that they were introduced to each other, and sometimes there just were not that many options in your own age group. Plus, the culture was the men worked in the mines and the women had babies young.
It seemed weird for sure looking through the lens of today's lifestyle, but my grandfather was not educated and had no outside information, so it was not like he had grown so much intellectually in those additional years. They didn't have newspapers or TV, or any outside influence. They didn't know any different.
Think Ceri's grandmother had something similar, she's now 90 and her first hustband has been dead for about 60 years, and they were married for a fair while... The math doesn't look fantastic. But that was then.
