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Fences and walls work the world over. Perhaps you should be blaming the illegals and not those trying to enforce our laws and protect us.zombie wrote:more incentivization and circumvention. but by all means, let's build a wall rather than actually working to solve the problem.
are illegals looking the other way to favor illegals? no. i'm blaming corruption and incentivization. that's the problem.Foo wrote:Fences and walls work the world over. Perhaps you should be blaming the illegals and not those trying to enforce our laws and protect us.zombie wrote:more incentivization and circumvention. but by all means, let's build a wall rather than actually working to solve the problem.
Let's get the truth on the table. Do you want every single illegal immigrant deported out of this country immediately?zombie wrote:are illegals looking the other way to favor illegals? no. i'm blaming corruption and incentivization. that's the problem.Foo wrote:Fences and walls work the world over. Perhaps you should be blaming the illegals and not those trying to enforce our laws and protect us.zombie wrote:more incentivization and circumvention. but by all means, let's build a wall rather than actually working to solve the problem.
we're paying to have our house robbed, essentially. so trump boards up the door, but we'll still keep paying the people to rob us. maybe open a window for them too. good system.
i wouldn't mind but it will take time. and it takes cooperation across the board. we're not there. if someone is shooting holes in your boat, do you just ignore him and keep bailing the water and trying to patch the holes as they happen?Foo wrote:Let's get the truth on the table. Do you want every single illegal immigrant deported out of this country immediately?zombie wrote:are illegals looking the other way to favor illegals? no. i'm blaming corruption and incentivization. that's the problem.Foo wrote:Fences and walls work the world over. Perhaps you should be blaming the illegals and not those trying to enforce our laws and protect us.zombie wrote:more incentivization and circumvention. but by all means, let's build a wall rather than actually working to solve the problem.
we're paying to have our house robbed, essentially. so trump boards up the door, but we'll still keep paying the people to rob us. maybe open a window for them too. good system.
The wall fixes the holes in the boat. Would you advocate arresting both government officials and businesses harboring illegals and charging them with aiding and abetting criminals?zombie wrote:i wouldn't mind but it will take time. and it takes cooperation across the board. we're not there. if someone is shooting holes in your boat, do you just ignore him and keep bailing the water and trying to patch the holes as they happen?Foo wrote:Let's get the truth on the table. Do you want every single illegal immigrant deported out of this country immediately?zombie wrote:are illegals looking the other way to favor illegals? no. i'm blaming corruption and incentivization. that's the problem.Foo wrote:Fences and walls work the world over. Perhaps you should be blaming the illegals and not those trying to enforce our laws and protect us.zombie wrote:more incentivization and circumvention. but by all means, let's build a wall rather than actually working to solve the problem.
we're paying to have our house robbed, essentially. so trump boards up the door, but we'll still keep paying the people to rob us. maybe open a window for them too. good system.
i am advocating that. as long as you can prove that they knowingly aided and abetted. (like whatever 7-11 thing before, and this washington state thing)Foo wrote:The wall fixes the holes in the boat. Would you advocate arresting both government officials and businesses harboring illegals and charging them with aiding and abetting criminals?zombie wrote:i wouldn't mind but it will take time. and it takes cooperation across the board. we're not there. if someone is shooting holes in your boat, do you just ignore him and keep bailing the water and trying to patch the holes as they happen?Foo wrote:Let's get the truth on the table. Do you want every single illegal immigrant deported out of this country immediately?zombie wrote:are illegals looking the other way to favor illegals? no. i'm blaming corruption and incentivization. that's the problem.Foo wrote:Fences and walls work the world over. Perhaps you should be blaming the illegals and not those trying to enforce our laws and protect us.zombie wrote:more incentivization and circumvention. but by all means, let's build a wall rather than actually working to solve the problem.
we're paying to have our house robbed, essentially. so trump boards up the door, but we'll still keep paying the people to rob us. maybe open a window for them too. good system.
What about ending lifetime jobs for government workers? Trump really brought that idea into fruition. Do libs disagree?zombie wrote:no, it's not. it's a gesture. clearly some part of our leadership wants to keep illegals coming in. the wall is not gonna stop corruption.
This would mean locking up a ton of california politicians.zombie wrote:i am advocating that. as long as you can prove that they knowingly aided and abetted. (like whatever 7-11 thing before, and this washington state thing)Foo wrote:The wall fixes the holes in the boat. Would you advocate arresting both government officials and businesses harboring illegals and charging them with aiding and abetting criminals?zombie wrote:i wouldn't mind but it will take time. and it takes cooperation across the board. we're not there. if someone is shooting holes in your boat, do you just ignore him and keep bailing the water and trying to patch the holes as they happen?Foo wrote:Let's get the truth on the table. Do you want every single illegal immigrant deported out of this country immediately?zombie wrote:are illegals looking the other way to favor illegals? no. i'm blaming corruption and incentivization. that's the problem.Foo wrote:Fences and walls work the world over. Perhaps you should be blaming the illegals and not those trying to enforce our laws and protect us.zombie wrote:more incentivization and circumvention. but by all means, let's build a wall rather than actually working to solve the problem.
we're paying to have our house robbed, essentially. so trump boards up the door, but we'll still keep paying the people to rob us. maybe open a window for them too. good system.
But even in your country this has Fuck all to do with the left or socialism, liberalism, or any other ism.Jason wrote:Shut it, Swede. We know leftism is different nationally. And your lefts might be crazier.showa58taro wrote:Leftism? Your grasp of political concepts is a joke.
You obviously don't visit America much. This is a total leftist thing.showa58taro wrote:But even in your country this has Fuck all to do with the left or socialism, liberalism, or any other ism.Jason wrote:Shut it, Swede. We know leftism is different nationally. And your lefts might be crazier.showa58taro wrote:Leftism? Your grasp of political concepts is a joke.
Not ideologically. It seems like you’re ascribing two completely untelated traits based on the people you have identified.Jason wrote:You obviously don't visit America much. This is a total leftist thing.showa58taro wrote:But even in your country this has Fuck all to do with the left or socialism, liberalism, or any other ism.Jason wrote:Shut it, Swede. We know leftism is different nationally. And your lefts might be crazier.showa58taro wrote:Leftism? Your grasp of political concepts is a joke.
first, your boy was all about "drain the swamp", seems in line with his campaign talk. second, are they not criminals? i thought you were against criminality at any level. or is it just immigrant criminality?Foo wrote:This would mean locking up a ton of california politicians.zombie wrote:i am advocating that. as long as you can prove that they knowingly aided and abetted. (like whatever 7-11 thing before, and this washington state thing)Foo wrote:The wall fixes the holes in the boat. Would you advocate arresting both government officials and businesses harboring illegals and charging them with aiding and abetting criminals?zombie wrote:i wouldn't mind but it will take time. and it takes cooperation across the board. we're not there. if someone is shooting holes in your boat, do you just ignore him and keep bailing the water and trying to patch the holes as they happen?Foo wrote:Let's get the truth on the table. Do you want every single illegal immigrant deported out of this country immediately?zombie wrote:are illegals looking the other way to favor illegals? no. i'm blaming corruption and incentivization. that's the problem.Foo wrote:Fences and walls work the world over. Perhaps you should be blaming the illegals and not those trying to enforce our laws and protect us.zombie wrote:more incentivization and circumvention. but by all means, let's build a wall rather than actually working to solve the problem.
we're paying to have our house robbed, essentially. so trump boards up the door, but we'll still keep paying the people to rob us. maybe open a window for them too. good system.
The swamp is Washington. I think locking people up for political dissent is requires a whole different level of caution. The same reason why Hillary is not in jail. The same reason allegations agianst Trump and Bernie Sanders require such thoughtfulness by responsible people.zombie wrote:first, your boy was all about "drain the swamp", seems in line with his campaign talk. second, are they not criminals? i thought you were against criminality at any level. or is it just immigrant criminality?Foo wrote:This would mean locking up a ton of california politicians.zombie wrote:i am advocating that. as long as you can prove that they knowingly aided and abetted. (like whatever 7-11 thing before, and this washington state thing)Foo wrote:The wall fixes the holes in the boat. Would you advocate arresting both government officials and businesses harboring illegals and charging them with aiding and abetting criminals?zombie wrote:i wouldn't mind but it will take time. and it takes cooperation across the board. we're not there. if someone is shooting holes in your boat, do you just ignore him and keep bailing the water and trying to patch the holes as they happen?Foo wrote:Let's get the truth on the table. Do you want every single illegal immigrant deported out of this country immediately?zombie wrote:are illegals looking the other way to favor illegals? no. i'm blaming corruption and incentivization. that's the problem.Foo wrote:Fences and walls work the world over. Perhaps you should be blaming the illegals and not those trying to enforce our laws and protect us.zombie wrote:more incentivization and circumvention. but by all means, let's build a wall rather than actually working to solve the problem.
we're paying to have our house robbed, essentially. so trump boards up the door, but we'll still keep paying the people to rob us. maybe open a window for them too. good system.
accusation is not the same as knowing and having proof that they are criminals. i didn't say political dissent, though trump would seemingly like to do just that.Foo wrote:The swamp is Washington. I think locking people up for political dissent is requires a whole different level of caution. The same reason why Hillary is not in jail. The same reason allegations agianst Trump and Bernie Sanders require such thoughtfulness by responsible people.zombie wrote:first, your boy was all about "drain the swamp", seems in line with his campaign talk. second, are they not criminals? i thought you were against criminality at any level. or is it just immigrant criminality?Foo wrote:This would mean locking up a ton of california politicians.zombie wrote:i am advocating that. as long as you can prove that they knowingly aided and abetted. (like whatever 7-11 thing before, and this washington state thing)Foo wrote:The wall fixes the holes in the boat. Would you advocate arresting both government officials and businesses harboring illegals and charging them with aiding and abetting criminals?zombie wrote:i wouldn't mind but it will take time. and it takes cooperation across the board. we're not there. if someone is shooting holes in your boat, do you just ignore him and keep bailing the water and trying to patch the holes as they happen?Foo wrote:Let's get the truth on the table. Do you want every single illegal immigrant deported out of this country immediately?zombie wrote:are illegals looking the other way to favor illegals? no. i'm blaming corruption and incentivization. that's the problem.Foo wrote:Fences and walls work the world over. Perhaps you should be blaming the illegals and not those trying to enforce our laws and protect us.zombie wrote:more incentivization and circumvention. but by all means, let's build a wall rather than actually working to solve the problem.
we're paying to have our house robbed, essentially. so trump boards up the door, but we'll still keep paying the people to rob us. maybe open a window for them too. good system.
Trump has been in office for a year. No political enemies have been locked up. No evidence he has made any attempt to do so despite being the most powerful man in the world with all the tools at his disposal to do so.zombie wrote:accusation is not the same as knowing and having proof that they are criminals. i didn't say political dissent, though trump would seemingly like to do just that.Foo wrote:The swamp is Washington. I think locking people up for political dissent is requires a whole different level of caution. The same reason why Hillary is not in jail. The same reason allegations agianst Trump and Bernie Sanders require such thoughtfulness by responsible people.zombie wrote:first, your boy was all about "drain the swamp", seems in line with his campaign talk. second, are they not criminals? i thought you were against criminality at any level. or is it just immigrant criminality?Foo wrote:This would mean locking up a ton of california politicians.zombie wrote:i am advocating that. as long as you can prove that they knowingly aided and abetted. (like whatever 7-11 thing before, and this washington state thing)Foo wrote:The wall fixes the holes in the boat. Would you advocate arresting both government officials and businesses harboring illegals and charging them with aiding and abetting criminals?zombie wrote:i wouldn't mind but it will take time. and it takes cooperation across the board. we're not there. if someone is shooting holes in your boat, do you just ignore him and keep bailing the water and trying to patch the holes as they happen?Foo wrote:Let's get the truth on the table. Do you want every single illegal immigrant deported out of this country immediately?zombie wrote:are illegals looking the other way to favor illegals? no. i'm blaming corruption and incentivization. that's the problem.Foo wrote:Fences and walls work the world over. Perhaps you should be blaming the illegals and not those trying to enforce our laws and protect us.zombie wrote:more incentivization and circumvention. but by all means, let's build a wall rather than actually working to solve the problem.
we're paying to have our house robbed, essentially. so trump boards up the door, but we'll still keep paying the people to rob us. maybe open a window for them too. good system.
then it's all talk. fair enough.Foo wrote: Trump has been in office for a year. No political enemies have been locked up. No evidence he has made any attempt to do so despite being the most powerful man in the world with all the tools at his disposal to do so.
It is not abusing power.zombie wrote:then it's all talk. fair enough.Foo wrote: Trump has been in office for a year. No political enemies have been locked up. No evidence he has made any attempt to do so despite being the most powerful man in the world with all the tools at his disposal to do so.
never said it was. again, fair enough.Foo wrote:It is not abusing power.zombie wrote:then it's all talk. fair enough.Foo wrote: Trump has been in office for a year. No political enemies have been locked up. No evidence he has made any attempt to do so despite being the most powerful man in the world with all the tools at his disposal to do so.