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Slaughterhouserock wrote:What works for me is routine. I do the same thing every day, eat the same meals every day. I exercise, which helps greatly, too. The thing is, what works for me, might not work for you. Some people are good just taking some pills. I tried that, didn't do shit. I tried therapy, didn't do shit(if anything, it made me more depressed). There's plenty of shit out there on what to do for depression. I say just start trying shit and see what works.
I am at my worst when my diet and exercise suffers. While I may be happy in the moment eating junk food and playing tower defense games, the rest of my life is certainly not as fulfilling.
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I see a problem when we start treating all issues the same way. For instance, a person who is confined to a wheelchair and is taking prescribed steroids is not the same as someone who has daddy issues. Society is having a real problem not stating the truth on this stuff.

Because willpower is a thing. Focus is a thing. They cannot be given only inspired. A bit of irony I find in society is that I notice a large chunk of people who readily recognize they are pawns used by power players in the world when it comes to using their labor and such, but don't see it when they are watching Netflix or standing on a line at the theater. The creators are wealthy while the slaves keep pumping in the cash in exchange for bits of escape. They are experiencing life while the underlings are consuming their product.
you seem to be treating all problems the same way though? i'm saying that it's not that simple, there is more to it. it varies from person to person. etc.

uh huh. how do you inspire focus or willpower? that's something that needs to be figured out. and why that someone isn't doing it for themselves. what is the cause for that lack. etc.

i think that the difference isn't lack of awareness. it's that consuming media gives a release or a distraction. it's a welcome part of their life. it helps to cope. and they may not see another way to have that, in their situation.
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Foo wrote:I am at my worst when my diet and exercise suffers. While I may be happy in the moment eating junk food and playing tower defense games, the rest of my life is certainly not as fulfilling.
Same here. I haven't had junk food in ages. I don't drink anything other than water, milk, and the rare tea. If I eat something unhealthy, I feel like shit. If I skip working out, I feel like shit. I still play games, though.
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i think most of my issues come from not liking myself at all, and not being able to see why others could. i am too much in my own head. but that doesn't go away when i'm doing tasks and such. it does go away sometimes, when i'm watching movies or tv. but lately i've found that i don't enjoy that as much. and that kind of bites.
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Slaughterhouserock wrote:What works for me is routine. I do the same thing every day, eat the same meals every day. I exercise, which helps greatly, too. The thing is, what works for me, might not work for you. Some people are good just taking some pills. I tried that, didn't do shit. I tried therapy, didn't do shit(if anything, it made me more depressed). There's plenty of shit out there on what to do for depression. I say just start trying shit and see what works.
I've exercised routinely for five straight years now, 4 days a week. Wasn't in a depression then. Slowly came on over the last three or so years.
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I see a problem when we start treating all issues the same way. For instance, a person who is confined to a wheelchair and is taking prescribed steroids is not the same as someone who has daddy issues. Society is having a real problem not stating the truth on this stuff.

Because willpower is a thing. Focus is a thing. They cannot be given only inspired. A bit of irony I find in society is that I notice a large chunk of people who readily recognize they are pawns used by power players in the world when it comes to using their labor and such, but don't see it when they are watching Netflix or standing on a line at the theater. The creators are wealthy while the slaves keep pumping in the cash in exchange for bits of escape. They are experiencing life while the underlings are consuming their product.
you seem to be treating all problems the same way though? i'm saying that it's not that simple, there is more to it. it varies from person to person. etc.

uh huh. how do you inspire focus or willpower? that's something that needs to be figured out. and why that someone isn't doing it for themselves. what is the cause for that lack. etc.

i think that the difference isn't lack of awareness. it's that consuming media gives a release or a distraction. it's a welcome part of their life. it helps to cope. and they may not see another way to have that, in their situation.
Maybe the cause doen't matter. Whether it was an abusive parent, a bird pooping in you at the beach, or a magical enchantment by an evil leprechaun, it is in the past. The focus should be on what you are doing today and tomorrow to change it. Sadly for many, they keep pushing the changes off and allow themselves to be trapped.

Exchange "media" with heroin, and the problem is the same. More and more escape, less and less reality. Then the escape ceases to be as pleasurable. Then what?
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zombie wrote:i think most of my issues come from not liking myself at all, and not being able to see why others could. i am too much in my own head. but that doesn't go away when i'm doing tasks and such. it does go away sometimes, when i'm watching movies or tv. but lately i've found that i don't enjoy that as much. and that kind of bites.
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Slaughterhouserock wrote:What works for me is routine. I do the same thing every day, eat the same meals every day. I exercise, which helps greatly, too. The thing is, what works for me, might not work for you. Some people are good just taking some pills. I tried that, didn't do shit. I tried therapy, didn't do shit(if anything, it made me more depressed). There's plenty of shit out there on what to do for depression. I say just start trying shit and see what works.
I remember my parents put me into some therapy when I was about 15. Results came in as manic depression plus highly creative. I think my parents were disappointed that the doctor was trying to tell them to treat me normally, and not act like I'm some satanic heathen.

I haven't really found anything that works for me when I'm in a depressive state. I don't want drugs, that's just a shitty cycle and money I don't have. I feel worse eating healthy food, I do feel slightly better with some exorcise, but if I overdo it I'm back to feeling like shit. I guess the best thing I do is occupy my head with creating something. Doesn't matter what, just doing something. Pretty much because it's distracting. So I guess my best option is distracting myself with productivity. However, I can't be too repetitive. If I'm too repetitive, I slump.

And not the type of productivity like "let's go clean the gutters!" and shit :P
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A friend recommended an attorney because of my injuries. Went with Larry H. Parker. Don't want to be screwed out of medical expenses. They might sue the insurance of the guy who hit me and aim for a settlement or something. I can't say more than this. :p

My nuts hurt. :p
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Jason wrote:A friend recommended an attorney because of my injuries. Went with Larry H. Parker. Don't want to be screwed out of medical expenses. They might sue the insurance of the guy who hit me and aim for a settlement or something. I can't say more than this. :p

My nuts hurt. :p
Your nuts needed representation.
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If your case is successful, Larry H Parker needs to change his slogan to "taking care of your nuts!"
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Foo wrote:
Maybe the cause doen't matter. Whether it was an abusive parent, a bird pooping in you at the beach, or a magical enchantment by an evil leprechaun, it is in the past. The focus should be on what you are doing today and tomorrow to change it. Sadly for many, they keep pushing the changes off and allow themselves to be trapped.

Exchange "media" with heroin, and the problem is the same. More and more escape, less and less reality. Then the escape ceases to be as pleasurable. Then what?
i meant the reason they aren't creating or building or exploring. whatever. not the reason that they became depressed.

the escape shouldn't cease to be pleasurable. for someone who genuinely enjoys films, it wouldn't be. if they were well-adjusted, the enjoyment would still be there. but just telling them to be well-adjusted isn't going to help them, really.
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DancesWithWerewolves wrote:If your case is successful, Larry H Parker needs to change his slogan to "taking care of your nuts!"
"We'll gently fight for you!"
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zombie wrote:i think most of my issues come from not liking myself at all, and not being able to see why others could. i am too much in my own head. but that doesn't go away when i'm doing tasks and such. it does go away sometimes, when i'm watching movies or tv. but lately i've found that i don't enjoy that as much. and that kind of bites.
I like you and I probably only like about 40 people.
i would ask why, but it just tends to get on people's nerves. :P
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Tiggnutz wrote:
Jason wrote:A friend recommended an attorney because of my injuries. Went with Larry H. Parker. Don't want to be screwed out of medical expenses. They might sue the insurance of the guy who hit me and aim for a settlement or something. I can't say more than this. :p

My nuts hurt. :p
Your nuts needed representation.
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Are there ads for Larry H Parker outside of southern california? I feel like this joke may be lost on other members :P
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zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
Maybe the cause doen't matter. Whether it was an abusive parent, a bird pooping in you at the beach, or a magical enchantment by an evil leprechaun, it is in the past. The focus should be on what you are doing today and tomorrow to change it. Sadly for many, they keep pushing the changes off and allow themselves to be trapped.

Exchange "media" with heroin, and the problem is the same. More and more escape, less and less reality. Then the escape ceases to be as pleasurable. Then what?
i meant the reason they aren't creating or building or exploring. whatever. not the reason that they became depressed.

the escape shouldn't cease to be pleasurable. for someone who genuinely enjoys films, it wouldn't be. if they were well-adjusted, the enjoyment would still be there. but just telling them to be well-adjusted isn't going to help them, really.
I like Chef Boyardee ravioli, but eating it for hours every single day would change how much I like it.
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Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
Maybe the cause doen't matter. Whether it was an abusive parent, a bird pooping in you at the beach, or a magical enchantment by an evil leprechaun, it is in the past. The focus should be on what you are doing today and tomorrow to change it. Sadly for many, they keep pushing the changes off and allow themselves to be trapped.

Exchange "media" with heroin, and the problem is the same. More and more escape, less and less reality. Then the escape ceases to be as pleasurable. Then what?
i meant the reason they aren't creating or building or exploring. whatever. not the reason that they became depressed.

the escape shouldn't cease to be pleasurable. for someone who genuinely enjoys films, it wouldn't be. if they were well-adjusted, the enjoyment would still be there. but just telling them to be well-adjusted isn't going to help them, really.
I like Chef Boyardee ravioli, but eating it for hours every single day would change how much I like it.
yeah, that's the equivalent of watching the one single same movie over and over, not movies in general.
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DancesWithWerewolves wrote:Are there ads for Larry H Parker outside of southern california? I feel like this joke may be lost on other members :P
Never thought about it. I remember that damn jew all over the TV even as a wee baby.
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zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
Maybe the cause doen't matter. Whether it was an abusive parent, a bird pooping in you at the beach, or a magical enchantment by an evil leprechaun, it is in the past. The focus should be on what you are doing today and tomorrow to change it. Sadly for many, they keep pushing the changes off and allow themselves to be trapped.

Exchange "media" with heroin, and the problem is the same. More and more escape, less and less reality. Then the escape ceases to be as pleasurable. Then what?
i meant the reason they aren't creating or building or exploring. whatever. not the reason that they became depressed.

the escape shouldn't cease to be pleasurable. for someone who genuinely enjoys films, it wouldn't be. if they were well-adjusted, the enjoyment would still be there. but just telling them to be well-adjusted isn't going to help them, really.
I like Chef Boyardee ravioli, but eating it for hours every single day would change how much I like it.
yeah, that's the equivalent of watching the one single same movie over and over, not movies in general.
It is still just passive entertainment. Ravioli for lunch, beefaroni for dinner, spaghetti for supper.
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