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Foo wrote:At out restaurant we had a lady get all pissed and slammed the door and stomped out.

The food truck had one of our annual health inspections yesterday. We had no choice in the matter and had to take the truck to the health department parking lot for the inspection. Not knowing how long this would take, we cancelled our Monday vending location and posted we would not be there on facebook.

Lady show up at the restaurant wanting a cheesesteak we serve on the food truck. Staff explains the restaurant has a different menu (it is posted online). She gets angry, throws down the menu, slams the door, stomps out, etc. People are so out of touch.

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:the police did nothing wrong. they were reacting to a call. it never should have gotten to that point, on starbucks end or on the guys' end.

could be that the friend who showed up, was gonna buy the drinks for them. we don't know the situation. but waiting outside is always an option, i guess. i really hope that starbucks is really consistent now, with how they treat people who come in and don't buy right away, or else it's gonna bite them hard. *shrug*

What was Starbucks supposed to do differently? Allow people to loiter in their business?

Keep in mind, different locations are much busier than others. You might not be able to get a table all the time at a Philly Starbucks.

zombie wrote:almost tempted to go up the street, and say i'm waiting for a friend. to see how they react. (i won't though)

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:the police did nothing wrong. they were reacting to a call. it never should have gotten to that point, on starbucks end or on the guys' end.

could be that the friend who showed up, was gonna buy the drinks for them. we don't know the situation. but waiting outside is always an option, i guess. i really hope that starbucks is really consistent now, with how they treat people who come in and don't buy right away, or else it's gonna bite them hard. *shrug*

What was Starbucks supposed to do differently? Allow people to loiter in their business?

Keep in mind, different locations are much busier than others. You might not be able to get a table all the time at a Philly Starbucks.

if their policy is that you need to order right away, then that's their policy. and they were in the right. i just hope they are consistent with it, even if it wasn't the policy to start with.

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:the police did nothing wrong. they were reacting to a call. it never should have gotten to that point, on starbucks end or on the guys' end.

could be that the friend who showed up, was gonna buy the drinks for them. we don't know the situation. but waiting outside is always an option, i guess. i really hope that starbucks is really consistent now, with how they treat people who come in and don't buy right away, or else it's gonna bite them hard. *shrug*

What was Starbucks supposed to do differently? Allow people to loiter in their business?

Keep in mind, different locations are much busier than others. You might not be able to get a table all the time at a Philly Starbucks.

if their policy is that you need to order right away, then that's their policy. and they were in the right. i just hope they are consistent with it, even if it wasn't the policy to start with.

Aww...are you so worried some dirtball won't get treated exactly like some guy dressed like he knows he is in public and not his basement?

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:At out restaurant we had a lady get all pissed and slammed the door and stomped out.

The food truck had one of our annual health inspections yesterday. We had no choice in the matter and had to take the truck to the health department parking lot for the inspection. Not knowing how long this would take, we cancelled our Monday vending location and posted we would not be there on facebook.

Lady show up at the restaurant wanting a cheesesteak we serve on the food truck. Staff explains the restaurant has a different menu (it is posted online). She gets angry, throws down the menu, slams the door, stomps out, etc. People are so out of touch.

some people are entitled selfish pricks. doesn't mean everyone is. doesn't mean the guys were, at the starbucks. but that lady certainly sounds like it.

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:the police did nothing wrong. they were reacting to a call. it never should have gotten to that point, on starbucks end or on the guys' end.

could be that the friend who showed up, was gonna buy the drinks for them. we don't know the situation. but waiting outside is always an option, i guess. i really hope that starbucks is really consistent now, with how they treat people who come in and don't buy right away, or else it's gonna bite them hard. *shrug*

What was Starbucks supposed to do differently? Allow people to loiter in their business?

Keep in mind, different locations are much busier than others. You might not be able to get a table all the time at a Philly Starbucks.

if their policy is that you need to order right away, then that's their policy. and they were in the right. i just hope they are consistent with it, even if it wasn't the policy to start with.

Aww...are you so worried some dirtball won't get treated exactly like some guy dressed like he knows he is in public and not his basement?

right, i knew this would come eventually. time to move on.

Foo wrote: When they were asked at least three times to leave a business that they did not own nor buy anything from, and had to be forced out by the police, that says nothing about them?

Seriously, would you want them in your business?

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:the police did nothing wrong. they were reacting to a call. it never should have gotten to that point, on starbucks end or on the guys' end.

could be that the friend who showed up, was gonna buy the drinks for them. we don't know the situation. but waiting outside is always an option, i guess. i really hope that starbucks is really consistent now, with how they treat people who come in and don't buy right away, or else it's gonna bite them hard. *shrug*

What was Starbucks supposed to do differently? Allow people to loiter in their business?

Keep in mind, different locations are much busier than others. You might not be able to get a table all the time at a Philly Starbucks.

if their policy is that you need to order right away, then that's their policy. and they were in the right. i just hope they are consistent with it, even if it wasn't the policy to start with.

Aww...are you so worried some dirtball won't get treated exactly like some guy dressed like he knows he is in public and not his basement?

right, i knew this would come eventually. time to move on.

Pity party brings it out. :p

showa58taro wrote:This was not Times Square. It did not need cops.

showa58taro wrote:This was not Times Square. It did not need cops.

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote: When they were asked at least three times to leave a business that they did not own nor buy anything from, and had to be forced out by the police, that says nothing about them?

Seriously, would you want them in your business?

honestly, i would have asked when they expected the friend. if he didn't show up around that time they said they expected him, i would let them know that i really needed them to leave and come back when he got there. if it was a disruption, or i needed the space for another customer. then i would probably call the police, if i couldn't get them out any other way.

but they didn't seem to be causing a disruption, or being shitty, like that lady did.

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote: When they were asked at least three times to leave a business that they did not own nor buy anything from, and had to be forced out by the police, that says nothing about them?

Seriously, would you want them in your business?

honestly, i would have asked when they expected the friend. if he didn't show up around that time they said they expected him, i would let them know that i really needed them to leave and come back when he got there. if it was a disruption, or i needed the space for another customer. then i would probably call the police, if i couldn't get them out any other way.

but they didn't seem to be causing a disruption, or being shitty, like that lady did.

So the manager did the right thing. They asked them to either become a customer or leave. Short of physical force, they had no alternative.

Why didn't they leave when the police asked them to?

Foo wrote:If this is a race issue, I think we see it in the people who think so low of black people to assume they cannot obey the basic rules of civilized society. Like, "Oh, common courtesy doesn't apply to black people, they don't know any better...".

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote: When they were asked at least three times to leave a business that they did not own nor buy anything from, and had to be forced out by the police, that says nothing about them?

Seriously, would you want them in your business?

honestly, i would have asked when they expected the friend. if he didn't show up around that time they said they expected him, i would let them know that i really needed them to leave and come back when he got there. if it was a disruption, or i needed the space for another customer. then i would probably call the police, if i couldn't get them out any other way.

but they didn't seem to be causing a disruption, or being shitty, like that lady did.

So the manager did the right thing. They asked them to either become a customer or leave. Short of physical force, they had no alternative.

Why didn't they leave when the police asked them to?

the manager did the best that he could, i guess. i just hope it's consistent moving forward, for the sake of the employees at that store. but that's a pity party apparently. *shrug*

i don't know why. but you're gonna theorize.

Foo wrote:

Jmac Attack wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:What a ridiculous story this is.

I don't even have a clue what's going on, lol. From y'all's comments, if they were asked to purchase something and didn't, then the manager was right to ask them to leave. On the other hand, we have meetings all the time in food joints and usually have to wait on one or two people. We tell the manager, and have never had a problem or have been asked to leave whilst waiting on said people.

Is there a good link to get the whole story?

You would not order a drink in a very busy place that sells drinks while you wait and are occupying tables meant for customers?

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:If this is a race issue, I think we see it in the people who think so low of black people to assume they cannot obey the basic rules of civilized society. Like, "Oh, common courtesy doesn't apply to black people, they don't know any better...".

it only becomes a real race issue, if the people in charge of that starbucks are shown to handle a couple of white guys, not ordering right away, differently than they did here. the media and politicians like to make everything into an issue, whatever kind of issue they feel like they have the best chance of.

and you like that too, cause it serves your agenda.

Jmac Attack wrote:

Foo wrote:

Jmac Attack wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:What a ridiculous story this is.

I don't even have a clue what's going on, lol. From y'all's comments, if they were asked to purchase something and didn't, then the manager was right to ask them to leave. On the other hand, we have meetings all the time in food joints and usually have to wait on one or two people. We tell the manager, and have never had a problem or have been asked to leave whilst waiting on said people.

Is there a good link to get the whole story?

You would not order a drink in a very busy place that sells drinks while you wait and are occupying tables meant for customers?

Of course Foo, I would. Jesus. I just wanted to know how long they were in the establishment, etc. Details.