28 - 4 - 2018

[Foo]

also, how many movies has james bond not died in? and he's been in every single one. it's your guys' fault for thinking that death of a main character is the only way to have significant stakes.

I can acknowledge a little bit of hypocrisy on my part, there. The quality of the film and the road that is built to get to the end of the movies is generally well-thought out, brilliant and entertaining. I can sit through 24 Bond flicks because the dialogue is intelligent and almost none of those movies are mindless CGI/action/blow-stuff-up crap. At least when you reach the super-mega-actiony part of Bond flicks, the car chases are actual car chases, not engineered through computers and crap. When I watch a superhero movies and the superhero is flying through the air shooting lasers or whatever, all I can picture is an actor on a string doing yoga.

so then, it makes no never mind for you, who lives or who dies, or what the stakes are, cause you were already not invested from the go. (and i suspect that is true of foo, as well) but others are.

I was invested in 2008 when Iron Man/Dark Knight/Incredible Hulk came out. Those were fun to watch. Then it became the same old tired crap after so many movies. If the main girl is cute enough is when I decide I'll see it or not. :p

I love superheroes. and not even seeing them all, it has become so repetitive. Video game sprites bouncing around like rubber balls, with no consequences and formulaic story.

The Dark Knight had a good story.

[zombie]

to live and die in la is one single movie. there are lots of one off movies where everyone or nearly everyone dies. (i haven't seen it, but based on your argument thus far...) again, it's your fault that "stakes" or "follow through" has to mean that this big star character dies or this other big star character dies. again, i don't think you're even invested in these films anyways.

[Foo]

Every Marvel movie reminds me that Michael Bay should be considered the godfather of modern cinema.

[Foo]

to live and die in la is one single movie. there are lots of one off movies where everyone or nearly everyone dies. (i haven't seen it, but based on your argument thus far...) again, it's your fault that "stakes" or "follow through" has to mean that this big star character dies or this other big star character dies. again, i don't think you're even invested in these films anyways.

In the new Avengers movie, what exactly is the threat of Thanos? That he is going to temporarily kill some heroes before they bring them back in a few months?

[Jason]

also, how many movies has james bond not died in? and he's been in every single one. it's your guys' fault for thinking that death of a main character is the only way to have significant stakes.

I can acknowledge a little bit of hypocrisy on my part, there. The quality of the film and the road that is built to get to the end of the movies is generally well-thought out, brilliant and entertaining. I can sit through 24 Bond flicks because the dialogue is intelligent and almost none of those movies are mindless CGI/action/blow-stuff-up crap. At least when you reach the super-mega-actiony part of Bond flicks, the car chases are actual car chases, not engineered through computers and crap. When I watch a superhero movies and the superhero is flying through the air shooting lasers or whatever, all I can picture is an actor on a string doing yoga.

so then, it makes no never mind for you, who lives or who dies, or what the stakes are, cause you were already not invested from the go. (and i suspect that is true of foo, as well) but others are.

I was invested in 2008 when Iron Man/Dark Knight/Incredible Hulk came out. Those were fun to watch. Then it became the same old tired crap after so many movies. If the main girl is cute enough is when I decide I'll see it or not. :p

I love superheroes. and not even seeing them all, it has become so repetitive. Video game sprites bouncing around like rubber balls, with no consequences and formulaic story.

The Dark Knight had a good story.

A good story is an absolute must if you're going to water down the franchise with the same formula. This is where Bond excels and superheroes fall.

[zombie]

michael bay? and thus brings home the point that "cgi fest" is not enough to make a good film. justice league was a stinker too, by the reports. if you're trying to argue that fans are just sheep that will watch anything, your case is unraveling. if you just don't like the movies yourself, fair. it sucks that it doesn't work for you, but fair. it does work for other people, and it's legitimate. they are not just being sheep.

[zombie]

to live and die in la is one single movie. there are lots of one off movies where everyone or nearly everyone dies. (i haven't seen it, but based on your argument thus far...) again, it's your fault that "stakes" or "follow through" has to mean that this big star character dies or this other big star character dies. again, i don't think you're even invested in these films anyways.

In the new Avengers movie, what exactly is the threat of Thanos? That he is going to temporarily kill some heroes before they bring them back in a few months?

there are reports of several game changing things in the film. i will be avoiding all that as much as i can until i see the film, so don't know specifics. but you're not even invested, so it doesn't matter. unless you're trying to rain on those that are invested?

[Foo]

also, how many movies has james bond not died in? and he's been in every single one. it's your guys' fault for thinking that death of a main character is the only way to have significant stakes.

I can acknowledge a little bit of hypocrisy on my part, there. The quality of the film and the road that is built to get to the end of the movies is generally well-thought out, brilliant and entertaining. I can sit through 24 Bond flicks because the dialogue is intelligent and almost none of those movies are mindless CGI/action/blow-stuff-up crap. At least when you reach the super-mega-actiony part of Bond flicks, the car chases are actual car chases, not engineered through computers and crap. When I watch a superhero movies and the superhero is flying through the air shooting lasers or whatever, all I can picture is an actor on a string doing yoga.

so then, it makes no never mind for you, who lives or who dies, or what the stakes are, cause you were already not invested from the go. (and i suspect that is true of foo, as well) but others are.

I was invested in 2008 when Iron Man/Dark Knight/Incredible Hulk came out. Those were fun to watch. Then it became the same old tired crap after so many movies. If the main girl is cute enough is when I decide I'll see it or not. :p

I love superheroes. and not even seeing them all, it has become so repetitive. Video game sprites bouncing around like rubber balls, with no consequences and formulaic story.

The Dark Knight had a good story.

A good story is an absolute must if you're going to water down the franchise with the same formula. This is where Bond excels and superheroes fall.

Bond also plays within the confines of our world. If you shoot him in the head, he dies. He fights other humans. It is not these situations where one minute the villain is in a fist fight and the next surviving a laser that melts tanks.

[Foo]

to live and die in la is one single movie. there are lots of one off movies where everyone or nearly everyone dies. (i haven't seen it, but based on your argument thus far...) again, it's your fault that "stakes" or "follow through" has to mean that this big star character dies or this other big star character dies. again, i don't think you're even invested in these films anyways.

In the new Avengers movie, what exactly is the threat of Thanos? That he is going to temporarily kill some heroes before they bring them back in a few months?

there are reports of several game changing things in the film. i will be avoiding all that as much as i can until i see the film, so don't know specifics. but you're not even invested, so it doesn't matter. unless you're trying to rain on those that are invested?

Invested? What does that mean?

I have watched several of them on TV.

[Jason]

michael bay? and thus brings home the point that "cgi fest" is not enough to make a good film. justice league was a stinker too, by the reports. if you're trying to argue that fans are just sheep that will watch anything, your case is unraveling. if you just don't like the movies yourself, fair. it sucks that it doesn't work for you, but fair. it does work for other people, and it's legitimate. they are not just being sheep.

Fans are just sheep, but they won't watch anything... I can understand that people grew up with superhero comics and can't get enough of it on the big screen and find things to love about the movies, but overall, the audience are sheep. Advertise explosions and it will reach 100 million, easy.

[zombie]

to live and die in la is one single movie. there are lots of one off movies where everyone or nearly everyone dies. (i haven't seen it, but based on your argument thus far...) again, it's your fault that "stakes" or "follow through" has to mean that this big star character dies or this other big star character dies. again, i don't think you're even invested in these films anyways.

In the new Avengers movie, what exactly is the threat of Thanos? That he is going to temporarily kill some heroes before they bring them back in a few months?

there are reports of several game changing things in the film. i will be avoiding all that as much as i can until i see the film, so don't know specifics. but you're not even invested, so it doesn't matter. unless you're trying to rain on those that are invested?

Invested? What does that mean?

I have watched several of them on TV.

invested, to me, means you watch and enjoy the films as they are, (and don't enjoy some too, if that's the case) rather than writing them all off as nothing but bouncing lights with no plot or development or follow through.

[Foo]

michael bay? and thus brings home the point that "cgi fest" is not enough to make a good film. justice league was a stinker too, by the reports. if you're trying to argue that fans are just sheep that will watch anything, your case is unraveling. if you just don't like the movies yourself, fair. it sucks that it doesn't work for you, but fair. it does work for other people, and it's legitimate. they are not just being sheep.

The lines to see something the moment it is released undermines the sheep argument.

Quips. Macguffin. Punchy Kicky. Destroy earth for a random reason. Lasers.

[zombie]

michael bay? and thus brings home the point that "cgi fest" is not enough to make a good film. justice league was a stinker too, by the reports. if you're trying to argue that fans are just sheep that will watch anything, your case is unraveling. if you just don't like the movies yourself, fair. it sucks that it doesn't work for you, but fair. it does work for other people, and it's legitimate. they are not just being sheep.

Fans are just sheep, but they won't watch anything... I can understand that people grew up with superhero comics and can't get enough of it on the big screen and find things to love about the movies, but overall, the audience are sheep. Advertise explosions and it will reach 100 million, easy.

ugh. well, then let us be sheep and you can be the real moviegoers, who actually know what's up.

[Foo]

to live and die in la is one single movie. there are lots of one off movies where everyone or nearly everyone dies. (i haven't seen it, but based on your argument thus far...) again, it's your fault that "stakes" or "follow through" has to mean that this big star character dies or this other big star character dies. again, i don't think you're even invested in these films anyways.

In the new Avengers movie, what exactly is the threat of Thanos? That he is going to temporarily kill some heroes before they bring them back in a few months?

there are reports of several game changing things in the film. i will be avoiding all that as much as i can until i see the film, so don't know specifics. but you're not even invested, so it doesn't matter. unless you're trying to rain on those that are invested?

Invested? What does that mean?

I have watched several of them on TV.

invested, to me, means you watch and enjoy the films as they are, (and don't enjoy some too, if that's the case) rather than writing them all off as nothing but bouncing lights with no plot or development or follow through.

I should not acknowledge the reality, which is the studio is milking the fans for everything they are worth?

I acknowledged that with F13 when the quality suffered, and I love F13. How great would it be watching the next F13 knowing the next four are in production with Jason and the final girl to appear in the all?

[Jason]

michael bay? and thus brings home the point that "cgi fest" is not enough to make a good film. justice league was a stinker too, by the reports. if you're trying to argue that fans are just sheep that will watch anything, your case is unraveling. if you just don't like the movies yourself, fair. it sucks that it doesn't work for you, but fair. it does work for other people, and it's legitimate. they are not just being sheep.

Fans are just sheep, but they won't watch anything... I can understand that people grew up with superhero comics and can't get enough of it on the big screen and find things to love about the movies, but overall, the audience are sheep. Advertise explosions and it will reach 100 million, easy.

ugh. well, then let us be sheep and you can be the real moviegoers, who actually know what's up.

If you can be entertained by movies with real dialogue that aren't all action explodey CGI fests, then you are not a sheep. Nothing is wrong with liking those movies. If you can't sit through a movie that relies even just slightly on dialogue, you are sheep to the movie industry.

[Jason]

to live and die in la is one single movie. there are lots of one off movies where everyone or nearly everyone dies. (i haven't seen it, but based on your argument thus far...) again, it's your fault that "stakes" or "follow through" has to mean that this big star character dies or this other big star character dies. again, i don't think you're even invested in these films anyways.

In the new Avengers movie, what exactly is the threat of Thanos? That he is going to temporarily kill some heroes before they bring them back in a few months?

there are reports of several game changing things in the film. i will be avoiding all that as much as i can until i see the film, so don't know specifics. but you're not even invested, so it doesn't matter. unless you're trying to rain on those that are invested?

Invested? What does that mean?

I have watched several of them on TV.

invested, to me, means you watch and enjoy the films as they are, (and don't enjoy some too, if that's the case) rather than writing them all off as nothing but bouncing lights with no plot or development or follow through.

I should not acknowledge the reality, which is the studio is milking the fans for everything they are worth?

I acknowledged that with F13 when the quality suffered, and I love F13. How great would it be watching the next F13 knowing the next four are in production with Jason and the final girl to appear in the all?

That's why Halloween should've ended at H20. Even if you hate that movie, it was closure on Michael. Now Michael is back and apparently Laurie, too. Not good. Less is more.

[zombie]

I should not acknowledge the reality, which is the studio is milking the fans for everything they are worth?

I acknowledged that with F13 when the quality suffered, and I love F13. How great would it be watching the next F13 knowing the next four are in production with Jason and the final girl to appear in the all?

you can acknowledge all you want. you can piss all over other people's enjoyment too. but i don't have to buy it. i can judge things for myself. i can realize that art is completely subjective. but if it helps you to feel good, to insist that you have the ultimate truth of film taste, awesome. i'll no longer stand in your way.

[zombie]

michael bay? and thus brings home the point that "cgi fest" is not enough to make a good film. justice league was a stinker too, by the reports. if you're trying to argue that fans are just sheep that will watch anything, your case is unraveling. if you just don't like the movies yourself, fair. it sucks that it doesn't work for you, but fair. it does work for other people, and it's legitimate. they are not just being sheep.

Fans are just sheep, but they won't watch anything... I can understand that people grew up with superhero comics and can't get enough of it on the big screen and find things to love about the movies, but overall, the audience are sheep. Advertise explosions and it will reach 100 million, easy.

ugh. well, then let us be sheep and you can be the real moviegoers, who actually know what's up.

If you can be entertained by movies with real dialogue that aren't all action explodey CGI fests, then you are not a sheep. Nothing is wrong with liking those movies. If you can't sit through a movie that relies even just slightly on dialogue, you are sheep to the movie industry.

in that case, pretty sure that there a bunch of movies with "real dialogue" that were very successful, in the last year alone.

[Foo]

I should not acknowledge the reality, which is the studio is milking the fans for everything they are worth?

I acknowledged that with F13 when the quality suffered, and I love F13. How great would it be watching the next F13 knowing the next four are in production with Jason and the final girl to appear in the all?

you can acknowledge all you want. you can piss all over other people's enjoyment too. but i don't have to buy it. i can judge things for myself. i can realize that art is completely subjective. but if it helps you to feel good, to insist that you have the ultimate truth of film taste, awesome. i'll no longer stand in your way.

Motel Hell is my favorite movie. Of course I am at the pinnacle of good taste!

[zombie]

I should not acknowledge the reality, which is the studio is milking the fans for everything they are worth?

I acknowledged that with F13 when the quality suffered, and I love F13. How great would it be watching the next F13 knowing the next four are in production with Jason and the final girl to appear in the all?

you can acknowledge all you want. you can piss all over other people's enjoyment too. but i don't have to buy it. i can judge things for myself. i can realize that art is completely subjective. but if it helps you to feel good, to insist that you have the ultimate truth of film taste, awesome. i'll no longer stand in your way.

Motel Hell is my favorite movie. Of course I am at the pinnacle of good taste!

very cool. i like motel hell as well.