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zombie wrote:

Reign in Blood wrote:

zombie wrote:

Reign in Blood wrote:

zombie wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:I hope people don't mistake my posts as some hunt for a conservative wonderland that's not my goal my goal is to show democrats and liberals have destoyed cities and generations of people. While we joke thousands of lives suffer.

conservatives only save lives and make us better as a nation.

This is interesting coupled with Foo's fact on the low success rate of AA. You know one thing that does reform a lot of drug users, addicts and criminals? Religion, when they find God. I am sure plenty use it as some half-assed attempt to find redemption that may never come even if it were true, but it's powerful none-the-less.

yeah, religion can have a powerful effect. it can also be used a shield or a coping mechanism to make you feel less guilty for things you do. it depends on what you do with it.

Indeed. But I thought that was what I just said? I was expecting a religion is evil argument or summat. *misses angel smiley*

maybe so. i guess i misunderstood what you meant with the last part. i'm not against religion, but it's not something i want for myself.

What if it helps you? Gives you direction?

Foo wrote:
As we stand right now, who wants to allow Muslims into the country? When it comes to religions restricting freedom, where do you think Muslims from places like Syria, Iran, and the other nations in Trumps travel ban stand?

Trumps words and actions. He has long embraced that community.

it seems like trump is using things put into place by obama, to restrict muslim entry? even as far as which countries are included.

if it had not been given legal status, would he have legalized it? is he simply keeping it legal, to save face and look good? you could be right though. i don't know for sure.

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:

Reign in Blood wrote:

zombie wrote:

Reign in Blood wrote:

zombie wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:I hope people don't mistake my posts as some hunt for a conservative wonderland that's not my goal my goal is to show democrats and liberals have destoyed cities and generations of people. While we joke thousands of lives suffer.

conservatives only save lives and make us better as a nation.

This is interesting coupled with Foo's fact on the low success rate of AA. You know one thing that does reform a lot of drug users, addicts and criminals? Religion, when they find God. I am sure plenty use it as some half-assed attempt to find redemption that may never come even if it were true, but it's powerful none-the-less.

yeah, religion can have a powerful effect. it can also be used a shield or a coping mechanism to make you feel less guilty for things you do. it depends on what you do with it.

Indeed. But I thought that was what I just said? I was expecting a religion is evil argument or summat. *misses angel smiley*

maybe so. i guess i misunderstood what you meant with the last part. i'm not against religion, but it's not something i want for myself.

What if it helps you? Gives you direction?

i said i'm not against religion. it can do good for people.

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:
As we stand right now, who wants to allow Muslims into the country? When it comes to religions restricting freedom, where do you think Muslims from places like Syria, Iran, and the other nations in Trumps travel ban stand?

Trumps words and actions. He has long embraced that community.

it seems like trump is using things put into place by obama, to restrict muslim entry? even as far as which countries are included.

if it had not been given legal status, would he have legalized it? is he simply keeping it legal, to save face and look good? you could be right though. i don't know for sure.

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/ ... -equality/

The media is misleading you.

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:
As we stand right now, who wants to allow Muslims into the country? When it comes to religions restricting freedom, where do you think Muslims from places like Syria, Iran, and the other nations in Trumps travel ban stand?

Trumps words and actions. He has long embraced that community.

it seems like trump is using things put into place by obama, to restrict muslim entry? even as far as which countries are included.

if it had not been given legal status, would he have legalized it? is he simply keeping it legal, to save face and look good? you could be right though. i don't know for sure.

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/ ... -equality/

The media is misleading you.

cool. if he would have legalized it, then that's something that would have surprised me. we'll never know.

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:
As we stand right now, who wants to allow Muslims into the country? When it comes to religions restricting freedom, where do you think Muslims from places like Syria, Iran, and the other nations in Trumps travel ban stand?

Trumps words and actions. He has long embraced that community.

it seems like trump is using things put into place by obama, to restrict muslim entry? even as far as which countries are included.

if it had not been given legal status, would he have legalized it? is he simply keeping it legal, to save face and look good? you could be right though. i don't know for sure.

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/ ... -equality/

The media is misleading you.

cool. if he would have legalized it, then that's something that would have surprised me. we'll never know.

What are you talking about?

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:
cool. if he would have legalized it, then that's something that would have surprised me. we'll never know.

What are you talking about?

if obama had not already legalized gay marriage, and trump did it, given that chance, it would surprise me.

Reign in Blood wrote:

Reign in Blood wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Reign in Blood wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:I hope people don't mistake my posts as some hunt for a conservative wonderland that's not my goal my goal is to show democrats and liberals have destoyed cities and generations of people. While we joke thousands of lives suffer.

You're absolutely right. And that is why my vision included the independents and high-high libertarians into the bosom. And when the liberals on their side get their way and destroy their cities and generations of people with no one else to blame, some will see the light, and we will welcome them into the bosom as well. A bit extreme of Foo's tough love, but you can't make an omelet... my man. Boom, recipe #1 for the welfare folk.

I don't want to live in Conservatopia, I said I'd come for SEC college football games. I'm living in Liberterria, and it's going to be epic.

If we're taking the south, and my vision is drawing shit in a straight, equal line across either direction, you can have that pocket of San Diego down to Mexico. I'll come to parrrr-teee!

We get South Beach, Fort Laurderdale, Vegas, Lake Havasu, woooo!

Gambling, live street fights, sex, drinking in public, pot growing freely along every road. You got the money, Liberterria's your Huckleberry. The wealthy employ militias to keep things from getting 10/10 crazy. Genius!

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:
cool. if he would have legalized it, then that's something that would have surprised me. we'll never know.

What are you talking about?

if obama had not already legalized gay marriage, and trump did it, given that chance, it would surprise me.

Media brainwashing achieved!

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:
cool. if he would have legalized it, then that's something that would have surprised me. we'll never know.

What are you talking about?

if obama had not already legalized gay marriage, and trump did it, given that chance, it would surprise me.

Media brainwashing achieved!

when you've got nothing else, take a cheap shot.

I'm proud I got 9-10 pages out of this before Foo derailed it all

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:
cool. if he would have legalized it, then that's something that would have surprised me. we'll never know.

What are you talking about?

if obama had not already legalized gay marriage, and trump did it, given that chance, it would surprise me.

Media brainwashing achieved!

when you've got nothing else, take a cheap shot.

You sit there and give credit to Obama, twice, for legalizing gay marriage. Where did that information come from? It is not reality because the Defense of Marriage act that Clinton signed into law was overruled by the courts.

When Obama campaigned he made it quite clear that he believed marriage was between a man and a woman. He cited his Christian faith and belief in God as reasons.

Trump asks for a gay pride flag to be brought on stage and holds it up proudly. He has posed for official White House photos with folks making openly gay gestures and smiled. He has no issue with it.

But you know...praise be Obana and assume the worst from Trump.

Again, Trump is the first president to enter office believing in gay marriage, Not something I agree with, but not acknowledging this and instead giving credit to Obama for doing nothing is pretty amazing.

Obama: "I don't believe in gay marriage"
Trump: holds up gay pride flags and clearly states gay marriage is the law and he is fine with it

Praise be Obama! Who know what the tyrant Trump would have done!

if gay marriage isn't legal, then trump has the chance to make it happen. surprise me, trump!

also, so we're clear. giving credit (whether mistaken or not) is not the same as praising. people can be opportunistic and manipulative. politics is full of that.

zombie wrote:also, so we're clear. giving credit (whether mistaken or not) is not the same as praising. people can be opportunistic and manipulative. politics is full of that.

Gay marriage was legalized while I was standing around doing nothing. Please give me credit and assume the guy waiving the gay pride flag would have made it illegal somehow.

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:also, so we're clear. giving credit (whether mistaken or not) is not the same as praising. people can be opportunistic and manipulative. politics is full of that.

Gay marriage was legalized while I was standing around doing nothing. Please give me credit and assume the guy waiving the gay pride flag would have made it illegal somehow.

if you can give credit for 80s horror to reagan and bush, how is this any different?

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:also, so we're clear. giving credit (whether mistaken or not) is not the same as praising. people can be opportunistic and manipulative. politics is full of that.

Gay marriage was legalized while I was standing around doing nothing. Please give me credit and assume the guy waiving the gay pride flag would have made it illegal somehow.

if you can give credit for 80s horror to reagan and bush, how is this any different?

You were calling out censorship and freedom under liberals versus conservatives.

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:also, so we're clear. giving credit (whether mistaken or not) is not the same as praising. people can be opportunistic and manipulative. politics is full of that.

Gay marriage was legalized while I was standing around doing nothing. Please give me credit and assume the guy waiving the gay pride flag would have made it illegal somehow.

if you can give credit for 80s horror to reagan and bush, how is this any different?

You were calling out censorship and freedom under liberals verdys conservatives.

i'm aware of the context. still giving credit where it doesn't belong.

i was wrong about obama actually directly legalizing gay marriage.

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:
cool. if he would have legalized it, then that's something that would have surprised me. we'll never know.

What are you talking about?

if obama had not already legalized gay marriage, and trump did it, given that chance, it would surprise me.

You are severely misinformed. Obama had nothing to do with gay marriage. The Supreme Court threw away states rights and made it legal. It was coming into states each election year, and most states voted against gay marriage, even California... California... But the Supreme Court way overstepped their boundaries and overruled the will of the people. This is one of the worst things ever committed. And I'm not talking about legalizing gay marriage, I'm talking about ignoring the will of the people. We cease to be a free nation when our choices are thrown away. I don't care if it was something I agreed with, throwing away the will of the people is one of the worst things you can do to a nation. That is literally taken the freedom to choose away from us.