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Re: Random Political Comments
Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 7:00 pm
by Jason
zombie wrote:Jason wrote:zombie wrote:Jason wrote:
I'd rather you point out the racism and bigotry.
I really don't give a shit that Trump clowned on the Academy Awards for giving a foreign film the best picture award. I really don't give a shit, and I'd equally care as much about it if Obama or HIllary said it instead of Trump. I truly don't care. But I guess that makes me a nazi sympathizer or white nationalist.
no. if you don't care. don't drone on about it.
and if trump honestly just didn't like parasite as a film, or whoever he was parroting, because he just didn't like the film.. cool. but that's not what this is. but again, if you don't care, then prove it and don't respond to me and we'll move on.
That's not at all what I said this is. Read my post you quoted.
okay. we'll carry it on then.
what was the point of his clowning the academy awards? because a foreign film shouldn't win best picture at an american awards show? is that what you're meaning to get at? explain the jab to me. because i may not be getting it.
I really don't know, and I really don't care. I almost never watch his rallies and I wouldn't have even seen the clip if I didn't happen to click this thread and read about him saying racist and bigoted shit, to which of course nothing racist or bigoted was said. And now there's a 2-day long, 5-page-and-counting discussion about a 30 second clip of him taking a very brief jab at the academy awards.
Just boggles the mind, is all.
Re: Random Political Comments
Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 7:01 pm
by zombie
Jason wrote:zombie wrote:Jason wrote:zombie wrote:Jason wrote:
I'd rather you point out the racism and bigotry.
I really don't give a shit that Trump clowned on the Academy Awards for giving a foreign film the best picture award. I really don't give a shit, and I'd equally care as much about it if Obama or HIllary said it instead of Trump. I truly don't care. But I guess that makes me a nazi sympathizer or white nationalist.
no. if you don't care. don't drone on about it.
and if trump honestly just didn't like parasite as a film, or whoever he was parroting, because he just didn't like the film.. cool. but that's not what this is. but again, if you don't care, then prove it and don't respond to me and we'll move on.
That's not at all what I said this is. Read my post you quoted.
okay. we'll carry it on then.
what was the point of his clowning the academy awards? because a foreign film shouldn't win best picture at an american awards show? is that what you're meaning to get at? explain the jab to me. because i may not be getting it.
I really don't know, and I really don't care. I almost never watch his rallies and I wouldn't have even seen the clip if I didn't happen to click this thread and read about him saying racist and bigoted shit, to which of course nothing racist or bigoted was said. And now there's a 2-day long, 5-page-and-counting discussion about a 30 second clip of him taking a very brief jab at the academy awards.
Just boggles the mind, is all.
who were we all responding to, through this 2 day long, 5 page and counting discussion?
Re: Random Political Comments
Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 7:04 pm
by Headhunter
When you go on a run of making the worst series of arguments possible, first move is to say you were just trolling. Second move is to say you don't care about any of it and act removed, despite spending the day talking about. This is some truly mind-melting shit.
Re: Random Political Comments
Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 7:05 pm
by Jason
zombie wrote:Jason wrote:zombie wrote:Jason wrote:zombie wrote:Jason wrote:
I'd rather you point out the racism and bigotry.
I really don't give a shit that Trump clowned on the Academy Awards for giving a foreign film the best picture award. I really don't give a shit, and I'd equally care as much about it if Obama or HIllary said it instead of Trump. I truly don't care. But I guess that makes me a nazi sympathizer or white nationalist.
no. if you don't care. don't drone on about it.
and if trump honestly just didn't like parasite as a film, or whoever he was parroting, because he just didn't like the film.. cool. but that's not what this is. but again, if you don't care, then prove it and don't respond to me and we'll move on.
That's not at all what I said this is. Read my post you quoted.
okay. we'll carry it on then.
what was the point of his clowning the academy awards? because a foreign film shouldn't win best picture at an american awards show? is that what you're meaning to get at? explain the jab to me. because i may not be getting it.
I really don't know, and I really don't care. I almost never watch his rallies and I wouldn't have even seen the clip if I didn't happen to click this thread and read about him saying racist and bigoted shit, to which of course nothing racist or bigoted was said. And now there's a 2-day long, 5-page-and-counting discussion about a 30 second clip of him taking a very brief jab at the academy awards.
Just boggles the mind, is all.
who were we all responding to, through this 2 day long, 5 page and counting discussion?
Myself, for the most part, thankfully. Otherwise it'd be one big circle jerk about what a bigoted rassist Trump is. At least now you guys can direct it at me. :p
Re: Random Political Comments
Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 7:07 pm
by zombie
Jason wrote:zombie wrote:
who were we all responding to, through this 2 day long, 5 page and counting discussion?
Myself, for the most part, thankfully. Otherwise it'd be one big circle jerk about what a bigoted rassist Trump is. At least now you guys can direct it at me. :p
yeah, so you do care. don't pretend!
Re: Random Political Comments
Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 7:12 pm
by Headhunter
The implication of what Trump said is that Parasite is inherently unworthy of its win because it's foreign.
Sorry, if you don't find anything wrong with that idea, you've got a fucked up worldview that's I can only hope is subject to change.
Re: Random Political Comments
Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 7:13 pm
by Jason
zombie wrote:Jason wrote:zombie wrote:
who were we all responding to, through this 2 day long, 5 page and counting discussion?
Myself, for the most part, thankfully. Otherwise it'd be one big circle jerk about what a bigoted rassist Trump is. At least now you guys can direct it at me. :p
yeah, so you do care. don't pretend!
Please reread things, you guys.
"I really don't give a shit that Trump clowned on the Academy Awards for giving a foreign film the best picture award."
Me, not giving a shit about that, has nothing to do with me, trolling this argument, because the idea that the basic concept of racism and bigotry is lost upon some of you because orange man bad, and you will change definitions of words to suit the narrative you want to have for a guy you love to hate.
Re: Random Political Comments
Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 7:15 pm
by Jason
Headhunter wrote:The implication of what Trump said is that Parasite is inherently unworthy of its win because it's foreign.
Sorry, if you don't find anything wrong with that idea, you've got a fucked up worldview that's I can only hope is subject to change.
I give zero fucks about the academy awards, so much so, that I have a fucked up worldview. lol.
Why have a category for best foreign picture when the foreign film wins best picture in general? Which film won best foreign picture? Once Upon a Time in Hollywood?
Re: Random Political Comments
Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 7:18 pm
by zombie
Jason wrote:zombie wrote:Jason wrote:zombie wrote:
who were we all responding to, through this 2 day long, 5 page and counting discussion?
Myself, for the most part, thankfully. Otherwise it'd be one big circle jerk about what a bigoted rassist Trump is. At least now you guys can direct it at me. :p
yeah, so you do care. don't pretend!
Please reread things, you guys.
"I really don't give a shit that Trump clowned on the Academy Awards for giving a foreign film the best picture award."
Me, not giving a shit about that, has nothing to do with me, trolling this argument, because the idea that the basic concept of racism and bigotry is lost upon some of you because orange man bad, and you will change definitions of words to suit the narrative you want to have for a guy you love to hate.
so you want to make this about semantics? we didn't use the word you think we should use? okay. noted.
Re: Random Political Comments
Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 7:19 pm
by Headhunter
Jason wrote:Headhunter wrote:The implication of what Trump said is that Parasite is inherently unworthy of its win because it's foreign.
Sorry, if you don't find anything wrong with that idea, you've got a fucked up worldview that's I can only hope is subject to change.
I give zero fucks about the academy awards, so much so, that I have a fucked up worldview. lol.
Why have a category for best foreign picture when the foreign film wins best picture in general? Which film won best foreign picture? Once Upon a Time in Hollywood?
The dishonesty in the way you've framed this is astounding. The thought behind the sentiment is not lost on anyone (including Reign, a conversative) but you, the batshit Trump cultist.
Because significantly less foreign films get a wide release, so it makes sense to categorically honor them when the deck is stacked.
Re: Random Political Comments
Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 7:23 pm
by Headhunter
zombie wrote:Jason wrote:zombie wrote:Jason wrote:zombie wrote:
who were we all responding to, through this 2 day long, 5 page and counting discussion?
Myself, for the most part, thankfully. Otherwise it'd be one big circle jerk about what a bigoted rassist Trump is. At least now you guys can direct it at me. :p
yeah, so you do care. don't pretend!
Please reread things, you guys.
"I really don't give a shit that Trump clowned on the Academy Awards for giving a foreign film the best picture award."
Me, not giving a shit about that, has nothing to do with me, trolling this argument, because the idea that the basic concept of racism and bigotry is lost upon some of you because orange man bad, and you will change definitions of words to suit the narrative you want to have for a guy you love to hate.
so you want to make this about semantics? we didn't use the word you think we should use? okay. noted.
There's no case to be made that it's not prejudice and xenophobia. The nationalist spin is also bullshit because as I've mentioned numerous times, there's 0% chance he says this about a British film winning and anyone who tries to argue otherwise is not coming from a place of intellectual honesty.
Re: Random Political Comments
Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 7:24 pm
by Jason
zombie wrote:Jason wrote:zombie wrote:Jason wrote:zombie wrote:
who were we all responding to, through this 2 day long, 5 page and counting discussion?
Myself, for the most part, thankfully. Otherwise it'd be one big circle jerk about what a bigoted rassist Trump is. At least now you guys can direct it at me. :p
yeah, so you do care. don't pretend!
Please reread things, you guys.
"I really don't give a shit that Trump clowned on the Academy Awards for giving a foreign film the best picture award."
Me, not giving a shit about that, has nothing to do with me, trolling this argument, because the idea that the basic concept of racism and bigotry is lost upon some of you because orange man bad, and you will change definitions of words to suit the narrative you want to have for a guy you love to hate.
so you want to make this about semantics? we didn't use the word you think we should use? okay. noted.
Everything is about semantics when you guys bring up Trump. lol. I'm just trying to keep some of you guys grounded in reality.
Trump: "Silly Academy Awards giving a foreign film best picture"
You guys: "What a racist and bigoted thing to say".
Me: "Not racist or bigoted"
H8r: "What an absolutely reprehensible and terrible argument you just made for that racist bigot. Worst argument ever."
Re: Random Political Comments
Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 7:25 pm
by Jason
Headhunter wrote:There's no case to be made that it's not prejudice and xenophobia. The nationalist spin is also bullshit because as I've mentioned numerous times, there's 0% chance he says this about a British film winning and anyone who tries to argue otherwise is not coming from a place of intellectual honesty.
Would he have made that argument against a French film?
Re: Random Political Comments
Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 7:26 pm
by zombie
Jason wrote:Headhunter wrote:The implication of what Trump said is that Parasite is inherently unworthy of its win because it's foreign.
Sorry, if you don't find anything wrong with that idea, you've got a fucked up worldview that's I can only hope is subject to change.
I give zero fucks about the academy awards, so much so, that I have a fucked up worldview. lol.
Why have a category for best foreign picture when the foreign film wins best picture in general? Which film won best foreign picture? Once Upon a Time in Hollywood?
why not have both?
Re: Random Political Comments
Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 7:29 pm
by Jason
zombie wrote:Jason wrote:Headhunter wrote:The implication of what Trump said is that Parasite is inherently unworthy of its win because it's foreign.
Sorry, if you don't find anything wrong with that idea, you've got a fucked up worldview that's I can only hope is subject to change.
I give zero fucks about the academy awards, so much so, that I have a fucked up worldview. lol.
Why have a category for best foreign picture when the foreign film wins best picture in general? Which film won best foreign picture? Once Upon a Time in Hollywood?
why not have both?
You could, I guess. But if a foreign film is considered for best picture, it kind of defeats the purpose of having a separate category for best foreign picture.
Re: Random Political Comments
Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 7:29 pm
by Headhunter
Jason wrote:Headhunter wrote:zombie wrote:Jason wrote:zombie wrote:Jason wrote:zombie wrote:
who were we all responding to, through this 2 day long, 5 page and counting discussion?
Myself, for the most part, thankfully. Otherwise it'd be one big circle jerk about what a bigoted rassist Trump is. At least now you guys can direct it at me. :p
yeah, so you do care. don't pretend!
Please reread things, you guys.
"I really don't give a shit that Trump clowned on the Academy Awards for giving a foreign film the best picture award."
Me, not giving a shit about that, has nothing to do with me, trolling this argument, because the idea that the basic concept of racism and bigotry is lost upon some of you because orange man bad, and you will change definitions of words to suit the narrative you want to have for a guy you love to hate.
so you want to make this about semantics? we didn't use the word you think we should use? okay. noted.
There's no case to be made that it's not prejudice and xenophobia. The nationalist spin is also bullshit because as I've mentioned numerous times, there's 0% chance he says this about a British film winning and anyone who tries to argue otherwise is not coming from a place of intellectual honesty.
Would he have made that argument against a French film?
Maybe, maybe not. He definitely wouldn't about any English language film, maybe this is a grey area in Trump's idiot mind.
It really makes no difference. The foundation of xenophobia is there in any case.
Re: Random Political Comments
Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 7:30 pm
by zombie
Jason wrote:
Everything is about semantics when you guys bring up Trump. lol. I'm just trying to keep some of you guys grounded in reality.
Trump: "Silly Academy Awards giving a foreign film best picture"
You guys: "What a racist and bigoted thing to say".
Me: "Not racist or bigoted"
H8r: "What an absolutely reprehensible and terrible argument you just made for that racist bigot. Worst argument ever."
you're keeping us grounded, by trying to say that we've all said what trump parroted at his rally? you may be the one who's lost in the clouds.
Re: Random Political Comments
Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 7:31 pm
by Jmac Attack
I'm confused. I've never once shit on a foreign film just because it's foreign. I know some people dont like to read while watching films, but other than that, say wut?
Anyway, I already saw someone on facebook saying shit like "fuckin chinks" etc. Those kinds of people are exactly who Trump was talking to. Jesus.
Re: Random Political Comments
Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 7:32 pm
by zombie
Jason wrote:zombie wrote:Jason wrote:Headhunter wrote:The implication of what Trump said is that Parasite is inherently unworthy of its win because it's foreign.
Sorry, if you don't find anything wrong with that idea, you've got a fucked up worldview that's I can only hope is subject to change.
I give zero fucks about the academy awards, so much so, that I have a fucked up worldview. lol.
Why have a category for best foreign picture when the foreign film wins best picture in general? Which film won best foreign picture? Once Upon a Time in Hollywood?
why not have both?
You could, I guess. But if a foreign film is considered for best picture, it kind of defeats the purpose of having a separate category for best foreign picture.
animated films have eligibility in two categories. is this so different?
Re: Random Political Comments
Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 7:32 pm
by Headhunter
Jason wrote:zombie wrote:Jason wrote:Headhunter wrote:The implication of what Trump said is that Parasite is inherently unworthy of its win because it's foreign.
Sorry, if you don't find anything wrong with that idea, you've got a fucked up worldview that's I can only hope is subject to change.
I give zero fucks about the academy awards, so much so, that I have a fucked up worldview. lol.
Why have a category for best foreign picture when the foreign film wins best picture in general? Which film won best foreign picture? Once Upon a Time in Hollywood?
why not have both?
You could, I guess. But if a foreign film is considered for best picture, it kind of defeats the purpose of having a separate category for best foreign picture.
It actually doesn't at all.