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Re: Asian small business owner is arrested...

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 7:08 pm
by Tiggnutz
Headhunter wrote:
Tiggnutz wrote:Fentanyl kills the all drugs should be legal discussion just as it should. All drugs are not equal
What's the difference? It kills thousands of people while illegal. It's not going to kill more people if legal.
You really believe that

Re: Asian small business owner is arrested...

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 7:09 pm
by Foo
Nobody gets out of a Middle East prison and misses it.

Re: Asian small business owner is arrested...

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 7:09 pm
by Headhunter
Tiggnutz wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Tiggnutz wrote:Fentanyl kills the all drugs should be legal discussion just as it should. All drugs are not equal
What's the difference? It kills thousands of people while illegal. It's not going to kill more people if legal.
You really believe that
I know it.

Re: Asian small business owner is arrested...

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 7:10 pm
by Foo
They can sell the Fentanyl right next to the vaping supplies at gas stations!

Re: Asian small business owner is arrested...

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 7:11 pm
by Tiggnutz
Headhunter wrote:
Tiggnutz wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Tiggnutz wrote:Fentanyl kills the all drugs should be legal discussion just as it should. All drugs are not equal
What's the difference? It kills thousands of people while illegal. It's not going to kill more people if legal.
You really believe that
I know it.
That's where we differ I guess innocent people get sick just from being near it

Re: Asian small business owner is arrested...

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 7:13 pm
by Headhunter
What would be an effective drug policy, Tigg? I'd rather eliminate 10% of a problem than just throw my hands up and say nothing can be done.

Re: Asian small business owner is arrested...

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 7:16 pm
by Tiggnutz
Headhunter wrote:What would be an effective drug policy, Tigg?
I don't know brother it's a hard question but I think the middle alowing some while still banning some is the only logical answer

Re: Asian small business owner is arrested...

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 7:20 pm
by Headhunter
Tiggnutz wrote:
Headhunter wrote:What would be an effective drug policy, Tigg?
I don't know brother it's a hard question but I think the middle alowing some while still banning some is the only logical answer
Where do you draw the lines? Anything you ban is still a rich market but run by some of the worst people in the world.

Re: Asian small business owner is arrested...

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 7:26 pm
by Headhunter
Meanwhile Foo is gonna be out here changing the world and breaking the 50,000 year cycle of people enjoying drugs.

There is no cure-all. Drugs come with inherent risks and those risks will inevitably lead to bad shit happening. If I can isolate drugs from other criminal enterprises, I think it's a net win.

Re: Asian small business owner is arrested...

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 7:35 pm
by zombie
Foo wrote:
Not all plans go as planned. Maybe it was a total accident. If not for the residents stating it is unlikely and introducing other evidence, her story would be more plausible. It still may be an accident. That is what they are investigating.
that's true. so investigate. then leak to the public for one of two reasons. either to punch holes in her version of events or to turn people against the victim. which is the more likely. doesn't sound "innocent until proven guilty" from either side.

Re: Asian small business owner is arrested...

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 7:37 pm
by Tiggnutz
Headhunter wrote:
Tiggnutz wrote:
Headhunter wrote:What would be an effective drug policy, Tigg?
I don't know brother it's a hard question but I think the middle alowing some while still banning some is the only logical answer
Where do you draw the lines? Anything you ban is still a rich market but run by some of the worst people in the world.
Hope for self preservation and educate
Stop demonizing helpful drugs put all focus on bad ones we know which are bad

Re: Asian small business owner is arrested...

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 7:46 pm
by Tiggnutz
Education is the only way

Re: Asian small business owner is arrested...

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:13 pm
by Foo
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
Not all plans go as planned. Maybe it was a total accident. If not for the residents stating it is unlikely and introducing other evidence, her story would be more plausible. It still may be an accident. That is what they are investigating.
that's true. so investigate. then leak to the public for one of two reasons. either to punch holes in her version of events or to turn people against the victim. which is the more likely. doesn't sound "innocent until proven guilty" from either side.
Do you believe in freedom of the press?

Re: Asian small business owner is arrested...

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:01 pm
by zombie
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
Not all plans go as planned. Maybe it was a total accident. If not for the residents stating it is unlikely and introducing other evidence, her story would be more plausible. It still may be an accident. That is what they are investigating.
that's true. so investigate. then leak to the public for one of two reasons. either to punch holes in her version of events or to turn people against the victim. which is the more likely. doesn't sound "innocent until proven guilty" from either side.
Do you believe in freedom of the press?
i do. but i also believe in freedom of speech. they can do shitty things and i can protest them.

Re: Asian small business owner is arrested...

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:13 pm
by Foo
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
Not all plans go as planned. Maybe it was a total accident. If not for the residents stating it is unlikely and introducing other evidence, her story would be more plausible. It still may be an accident. That is what they are investigating.
that's true. so investigate. then leak to the public for one of two reasons. either to punch holes in her version of events or to turn people against the victim. which is the more likely. doesn't sound "innocent until proven guilty" from either side.
Do you believe in freedom of the press?
i do. but i also believe in freedom of speech. they can do shitty things and i can protest them.
Sure, but do you equally protest the other side of this, such as the media who are trying to say the police investigation is corrupt without any evidence?

Re: Asian small business owner is arrested...

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:18 pm
by zombie
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
Not all plans go as planned. Maybe it was a total accident. If not for the residents stating it is unlikely and introducing other evidence, her story would be more plausible. It still may be an accident. That is what they are investigating.
that's true. so investigate. then leak to the public for one of two reasons. either to punch holes in her version of events or to turn people against the victim. which is the more likely. doesn't sound "innocent until proven guilty" from either side.
Do you believe in freedom of the press?
i do. but i also believe in freedom of speech. they can do shitty things and i can protest them.
Sure, but do you equally protest the other side of this, such as the media who are trying to say the police investigation is corrupt without any evidence?
you are suggesting that, or using that suggestion to hide behind. i haven't read what the media is saying about all of this. i lean toward her being honest, with her version of events, until i have reason to think otherwise.

Re: Asian small business owner is arrested...

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:26 pm
by Foo
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
Not all plans go as planned. Maybe it was a total accident. If not for the residents stating it is unlikely and introducing other evidence, her story would be more plausible. It still may be an accident. That is what they are investigating.
that's true. so investigate. then leak to the public for one of two reasons. either to punch holes in her version of events or to turn people against the victim. which is the more likely. doesn't sound "innocent until proven guilty" from either side.
Do you believe in freedom of the press?
i do. but i also believe in freedom of speech. they can do shitty things and i can protest them.
Sure, but do you equally protest the other side of this, such as the media who are trying to say the police investigation is corrupt without any evidence?
you are suggesting that, or using that suggestion to hide behind. i haven't read what the media is saying about all of this. i lean toward her being honest, with her version of events, until i have reason to think otherwise.
I lean towards allowing all the information to be found. Just one bit tying them together changes everything. The question is really of punishment at this point.

Re: Asian small business owner is arrested...

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:29 pm
by zombie
Foo wrote: I lean towards allowing all the information to be found. Just one bit tying them together changes everything. The question is really of punishment at this point.
yeah, punishment should depend on what she did. not on how the man lived his life, unless she's lying about why she shot him.

Re: Asian small business owner is arrested...

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:03 pm
by Foo
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote: I lean towards allowing all the information to be found. Just one bit tying them together changes everything. The question is really of punishment at this point.
yeah, punishment should depend on what she did. not on how the man lived his life, unless she's lying about why she shot him.
I am not sure why you are so hung up on the weed. It is just a fact. Are you gonna make a big fuss protecting the wacky weed if it is found in the cop's system?

Re: Asian small business owner is arrested...

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:16 pm
by zombie
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote: I lean towards allowing all the information to be found. Just one bit tying them together changes everything. The question is really of punishment at this point.
yeah, punishment should depend on what she did. not on how the man lived his life, unless she's lying about why she shot him.
I am not sure why you are so hung up on the weed. It is just a fact. Are you gonna make a big fuss protecting the wacky weed if it is found in the cop's system?
that would be a different story. if the man had actually been an intruder in her home, and weed was found in his car, it would also be a different story. so no, i'm not "protecting the weed".