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Re: California Burning

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Reign in Blood wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 1:17 pm I don't trust Oregon, what have they ever done that's good? There might have been a stowaway illegal in one of the compartments, come here just to light up some shit. I'm damn glad they looked, could have stopped a potential arsonist, aren't you? I am so damn glad.
If they were harboring illegals in their compartments, California would have shut down entire highways so they can get that immigrant to L.A. as fast as possible so he can ignite L.A. with a flamethrower like his fellow compatriots. :P
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True, we probably would have fast tracked him and gave him a flame thrower, but at least we'd have on file/camera who he was!
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Jason wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 12:32 pm
Lazerus wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 9:27 am
DancesWithWerewolves wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 9:14 am
Lazerus wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 9:06 am
DancesWithWerewolves wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 8:46 am
Lazerus wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 6:39 am
DancesWithWerewolves wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2025 10:41 pm
Lazerus wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2025 9:54 am
DancesWithWerewolves wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2025 9:11 am Unless you're wealthy, you can easily be stuck here.
I have three family members who live in SoCal. All three are multi millionaires and they are stuck in Cali.
I don't know what's holding them down.
Established careers/businesses, family, friends, established networks, age, lack of desire to move/start over.

There are a tone of reasons someone might choose not to relocate despite having the financial resources to do so. I.E. ...One of my cousins out there wont move because she does not want to live far away from her children.
Ah, that's the big one right there. They're not stuck if they have no desire to get out. My perception of being stuck here is clearly very different lol.
She would love to move but because her children are there (and her grandkids) she can't. She doesn't want to do the long distance thing with her family so therefore she is stuck. The other ones are stuck (at least for now) their for their careers. It's not for lack of desire to leave.

it seems you were offended by my comments. That was not the intention here.
I also think the word "easily" is missed in my first comment. You're listing a lot of stuff that makes it complicated, hard. There are plenty of reasons not to actually move, but the easiest, most wide-spread reason is cost. This state is a vampire on finances.
To be fair, You implied in your first comment that being wealthy makes it easy to move and I wanted to point out that's not always the case when other variables come into play. When you responded with "I don't know what's holding them down" I felt that you were offended and again that wasn't my intention here Darren. I was simply wanting to engage in a conversation but perhaps I approached it wrong from the beginning or maybe I took your comment out of context? idk. But it seemed like you took offense and if you did then my bad.
If none of the variables came into play and you were desperate to leave California but live like the vast majority who are paycheck to paycheck, it is basically impossible to leave. The state ups the cost to make it more difficult to leave. They know people are basically fleeing from California like it's the plague and they can't afford it.
I fully understand there are people who have less financial means than my family and myself. I was once poor and homeless, living in my car!
As for California I don't understand why anyone would choose to move there. It's a shithole imo.
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Lazerus wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 1:43 pm
Jason wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 12:32 pm
Lazerus wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 9:27 am
DancesWithWerewolves wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 9:14 am
Lazerus wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 9:06 am
DancesWithWerewolves wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 8:46 am
Lazerus wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 6:39 am
DancesWithWerewolves wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2025 10:41 pm
Lazerus wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2025 9:54 am
DancesWithWerewolves wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2025 9:11 am Unless you're wealthy, you can easily be stuck here.
I have three family members who live in SoCal. All three are multi millionaires and they are stuck in Cali.
I don't know what's holding them down.
Established careers/businesses, family, friends, established networks, age, lack of desire to move/start over.

There are a tone of reasons someone might choose not to relocate despite having the financial resources to do so. I.E. ...One of my cousins out there wont move because she does not want to live far away from her children.
Ah, that's the big one right there. They're not stuck if they have no desire to get out. My perception of being stuck here is clearly very different lol.
She would love to move but because her children are there (and her grandkids) she can't. She doesn't want to do the long distance thing with her family so therefore she is stuck. The other ones are stuck (at least for now) their for their careers. It's not for lack of desire to leave.

it seems you were offended by my comments. That was not the intention here.
I also think the word "easily" is missed in my first comment. You're listing a lot of stuff that makes it complicated, hard. There are plenty of reasons not to actually move, but the easiest, most wide-spread reason is cost. This state is a vampire on finances.
To be fair, You implied in your first comment that being wealthy makes it easy to move and I wanted to point out that's not always the case when other variables come into play. When you responded with "I don't know what's holding them down" I felt that you were offended and again that wasn't my intention here Darren. I was simply wanting to engage in a conversation but perhaps I approached it wrong from the beginning or maybe I took your comment out of context? idk. But it seemed like you took offense and if you did then my bad.
If none of the variables came into play and you were desperate to leave California but live like the vast majority who are paycheck to paycheck, it is basically impossible to leave. The state ups the cost to make it more difficult to leave. They know people are basically fleeing from California like it's the plague and they can't afford it.
I fully understand there are people who have less financial means than my family and myself. I was once poor and homeless, living in my car!
As for California I don't understand why anyone would choose to move there. It's a shithole imo.
I'd have been gone 15 years ago if not for friends and family.
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Would you still want Colorado beings it's now Calirado?
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Reign in Blood wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 1:49 pm Would you still want Colorado beings it's now Calirado?
Anything is an improvement. I felt at home when we stayed there last month. But I wouldn't mind a more rural state like Utah, Idaho, Montana, etc...
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Jason wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 1:47 pm
I'd have been gone 15 years ago if not for friends and family.
Friends and family. That's the kicker right there for a lot of people! It's the reason my cousin won't sell her home and leave. It's because her daughters and their kids who show no signs of leaving anytime soon. I spoke with her last Thanksgiving and she told me how much she hates California and the politics there, how she's getting older and wants to move to a quitter place. But sometimes leaving home isn't as easy as it sounds. You miss things you might not ever think you would.

As you know my gf and I left Texas for the east coast awhile ago and while it's beautiful here it's not home. I miss my family back in Dallas and a lot of the places we used to frequent. I hated the state politics and the miserable summers there but I wish we had stuck it out at least until we got closer to our retirement years.
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The majority of people in the country never leave whatever po’dunk towns they come from as long as they can find work because it’s all they know. Very few people actually want to start over.
Not removing until John Elway is fired.
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Jason wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 1:47 pm
Lazerus wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 1:43 pm
Jason wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 12:32 pm
Lazerus wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 9:27 am
DancesWithWerewolves wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 9:14 am
Lazerus wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 9:06 am
DancesWithWerewolves wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 8:46 am
Lazerus wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 6:39 am
DancesWithWerewolves wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2025 10:41 pm
Lazerus wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2025 9:54 am
DancesWithWerewolves wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2025 9:11 am Unless you're wealthy, you can easily be stuck here.
I have three family members who live in SoCal. All three are multi millionaires and they are stuck in Cali.
I don't know what's holding them down.
Established careers/businesses, family, friends, established networks, age, lack of desire to move/start over.

There are a tone of reasons someone might choose not to relocate despite having the financial resources to do so. I.E. ...One of my cousins out there wont move because she does not want to live far away from her children.
Ah, that's the big one right there. They're not stuck if they have no desire to get out. My perception of being stuck here is clearly very different lol.
She would love to move but because her children are there (and her grandkids) she can't. She doesn't want to do the long distance thing with her family so therefore she is stuck. The other ones are stuck (at least for now) their for their careers. It's not for lack of desire to leave.

it seems you were offended by my comments. That was not the intention here.
I also think the word "easily" is missed in my first comment. You're listing a lot of stuff that makes it complicated, hard. There are plenty of reasons not to actually move, but the easiest, most wide-spread reason is cost. This state is a vampire on finances.
To be fair, You implied in your first comment that being wealthy makes it easy to move and I wanted to point out that's not always the case when other variables come into play. When you responded with "I don't know what's holding them down" I felt that you were offended and again that wasn't my intention here Darren. I was simply wanting to engage in a conversation but perhaps I approached it wrong from the beginning or maybe I took your comment out of context? idk. But it seemed like you took offense and if you did then my bad.
If none of the variables came into play and you were desperate to leave California but live like the vast majority who are paycheck to paycheck, it is basically impossible to leave. The state ups the cost to make it more difficult to leave. They know people are basically fleeing from California like it's the plague and they can't afford it.
I fully understand there are people who have less financial means than my family and myself. I was once poor and homeless, living in my car!
As for California I don't understand why anyone would choose to move there. It's a shithole imo.
I'd have been gone 15 years ago if not for friends and family.
And you know what, I'll admit it: growing up in a military family moving frequently fucked me out of having roots like this, so this concept is actually quite lost on me.
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DancesWithWerewolves wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 9:21 pm
Jason wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 1:47 pm
Lazerus wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 1:43 pm
Jason wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 12:32 pm
Lazerus wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 9:27 am
DancesWithWerewolves wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 9:14 am
Lazerus wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 9:06 am
DancesWithWerewolves wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 8:46 am
Lazerus wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 6:39 am
DancesWithWerewolves wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2025 10:41 pm
Lazerus wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2025 9:54 am
DancesWithWerewolves wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2025 9:11 am Unless you're wealthy, you can easily be stuck here.
I have three family members who live in SoCal. All three are multi millionaires and they are stuck in Cali.
I don't know what's holding them down.
Established careers/businesses, family, friends, established networks, age, lack of desire to move/start over.

There are a tone of reasons someone might choose not to relocate despite having the financial resources to do so. I.E. ...One of my cousins out there wont move because she does not want to live far away from her children.
Ah, that's the big one right there. They're not stuck if they have no desire to get out. My perception of being stuck here is clearly very different lol.
She would love to move but because her children are there (and her grandkids) she can't. She doesn't want to do the long distance thing with her family so therefore she is stuck. The other ones are stuck (at least for now) their for their careers. It's not for lack of desire to leave.

it seems you were offended by my comments. That was not the intention here.
I also think the word "easily" is missed in my first comment. You're listing a lot of stuff that makes it complicated, hard. There are plenty of reasons not to actually move, but the easiest, most wide-spread reason is cost. This state is a vampire on finances.
To be fair, You implied in your first comment that being wealthy makes it easy to move and I wanted to point out that's not always the case when other variables come into play. When you responded with "I don't know what's holding them down" I felt that you were offended and again that wasn't my intention here Darren. I was simply wanting to engage in a conversation but perhaps I approached it wrong from the beginning or maybe I took your comment out of context? idk. But it seemed like you took offense and if you did then my bad.
If none of the variables came into play and you were desperate to leave California but live like the vast majority who are paycheck to paycheck, it is basically impossible to leave. The state ups the cost to make it more difficult to leave. They know people are basically fleeing from California like it's the plague and they can't afford it.
I fully understand there are people who have less financial means than my family and myself. I was once poor and homeless, living in my car!
As for California I don't understand why anyone would choose to move there. It's a shithole imo.
I'd have been gone 15 years ago if not for friends and family.
And you know what, I'll admit it: growing up in a military family moving frequently fucked me out of having roots like this, so this concept is actually quite lost on me.
Probably more of a blessing in disguise. Having these roots is making me feel trapped in a way.
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I'm gonna try to paint a picture of just how horrible of a human being Gavin Newsom is, if you guys don't mind following along with me.

Imagine walking out your front door and standing in the middle of the nearest street. Now picture everything you know around you in your neighborhood is just gone and in the exact spot you are standing, Gavin Newsom and a news crew are filming with what was left of your home burned down in the background of the shot.

Now watch this.
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The dude is dancing as he's talking about developers coming in and buying up all the land where beautiful neighborhoods existed days ago. Not one inkling of care or empathy in his heart for the thousands of new homeless people. What are they gonna do? Who cares?

Fuck. You.
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I think he's gotta take a leak. Conserve his waters!
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He said he was talking to the Hawaiian dude because they got raped by developers and the Rock and Oprah in Maui, so he wants to put things in place and legalese to stop that from happening here. Why are you freaking out on it?
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Reign in Blood wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2025 3:15 pm He said he was talking to the Hawaiian dude because they got raped by developers and the Rock and Oprah, so he wants to put things in place and legalese to stop that from happening here. Why are you freaking out on it?
I'm pretty sure you're joking, but I just want to make sure...

You are joking, yes?
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Tigg, please talk to him. Jason is off his shit slopping up anything, oh my god.
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Holy shit.

I'm out.
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This law is put in place so that he can oversee which developers buy the land because he wants to put in new giant apartments. He is dancing about it on screen while neighborhoods are burned behind him and you share that article as if he is protecting people?

I award you no points, and all that.
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You posted a 20 second snippet making wild claims. I called bullshit. I proved it was bullshit. Now you're out. Sounds about right.
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