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Well now you have to do more investigating. The dems stall tactic has been successful something they will be whining about in the future when it's used against them.

Tiggnutz wrote:Well now you have to do more investigating. The dems stall tactic has been successful something they will be whining about in the future when it's used against them.

No they shouldn’t. And no it isn’t a stall tactic if this is going to prove the point. It should be investigated. Why would you rush a process that has a lifetime appointment.

showa58taro wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:Well now you have to do more investigating. The dems stall tactic has been successful something they will be whining about in the future when it's used against them.

No they shouldn’t. And no it isn’t a stall tactic if this is going to prove the point. It should be investigated. Why would you rush a process that has a lifetime appointment.

No they shouldn't investigate it more?

Tiggnutz wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:Well now you have to do more investigating. The dems stall tactic has been successful something they will be whining about in the future when it's used against them.

No they shouldn’t. And no it isn’t a stall tactic if this is going to prove the point. It should be investigated. Why would you rush a process that has a lifetime appointment.

No they shouldn't investigate it more?

No yhey (Democrats) shouldn’t cry about it (an investigation) in the future.

I thought his response to ever being blackout drunk was gold. "Have you?"

Reign in Blood wrote:I thought his response to ever being blackout drunk was gold. "Have you?"

That was so fucking awful. You’re there to confront your behavior towards women and that aggressive bullshit is how you reply to a woman. Fuck me.

Either they are so tone deaf to the world as to render themselves unelectable or the US really is lost.

showa58taro wrote:

Reign in Blood wrote:I thought his response to ever being blackout drunk was gold. "Have you?"

That was so fucking awful. You’re there to confront your behavior towards women and that aggressive bullshit is how you reply to a woman. Fuck me.


Either they are so tone deaf to the world as to render themselves unelectable or the US really is lost.

Your bias has him being a rapist because he's conservative but try to step outside of that for a second how would you act if you were accused of rape in a scenario that's impossible to disprove becuase the only knowledge the victim has is it was you who did it decades ago. Your wife would hear this your kids would hear this. I would lose my shit personally.

Tiggnutz wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

Reign in Blood wrote:I thought his response to ever being blackout drunk was gold. "Have you?"

That was so fucking awful. You’re there to confront your behavior towards women and that aggressive bullshit is how you reply to a woman. Fuck me.


Either they are so tone deaf to the world as to render themselves unelectable or the US really is lost.

Your bias has him being a rapist because he's conservative but try to step outside of that for a second how would you act if you were accused of rape in a scenario that's impossible to disprove becuase the only knowledge the victim has is it was you who did it decades ago. Your wife would hear this your kids would hear this. I would lose my shit personally.

He should have thought of that before he raped someone tbh.

Jigsaw wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

Reign in Blood wrote:I thought his response to ever being blackout drunk was gold. "Have you?"

That was so fucking awful. You’re there to confront your behavior towards women and that aggressive bullshit is how you reply to a woman. Fuck me.


Either they are so tone deaf to the world as to render themselves unelectable or the US really is lost.

Your bias has him being a rapist because he's conservative but try to step outside of that for a second how would you act if you were accused of rape in a scenario that's impossible to disprove becuase the only knowledge the victim has is it was you who did it decades ago. Your wife would hear this your kids would hear this. I would lose my shit personally.

He should have thought of that before he raped someone tbh.

If you have some evidence the Dems will gladly buy it from you and probably name a Federal Monument after you.

Tiggnutz wrote:

Jigsaw wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

Reign in Blood wrote:I thought his response to ever being blackout drunk was gold. "Have you?"

That was so fucking awful. You’re there to confront your behavior towards women and that aggressive bullshit is how you reply to a woman. Fuck me.


Either they are so tone deaf to the world as to render themselves unelectable or the US really is lost.

Your bias has him being a rapist because he's conservative but try to step outside of that for a second how would you act if you were accused of rape in a scenario that's impossible to disprove becuase the only knowledge the victim has is it was you who did it decades ago. Your wife would hear this your kids would hear this. I would lose my shit personally.

He should have thought of that before he raped someone tbh.

If you have some evidence the Dems will gladly buy it from you and probably name a Federal Monument after you.

Who wouldn't want a Statue of Jiggy somewhere in DC?

Jigsaw wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

Jigsaw wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

Reign in Blood wrote:I thought his response to ever being blackout drunk was gold. "Have you?"

That was so fucking awful. You’re there to confront your behavior towards women and that aggressive bullshit is how you reply to a woman. Fuck me.


Either they are so tone deaf to the world as to render themselves unelectable or the US really is lost.

Your bias has him being a rapist because he's conservative but try to step outside of that for a second how would you act if you were accused of rape in a scenario that's impossible to disprove becuase the only knowledge the victim has is it was you who did it decades ago. Your wife would hear this your kids would hear this. I would lose my shit personally.

He should have thought of that before he raped someone tbh.

If you have some evidence the Dems will gladly buy it from you and probably name a Federal Monument after you.

Who wouldn't want a Statue of Jiggy somewhere in DC?

I'm sure they would be flexible with location

Tiggnutz wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

Reign in Blood wrote:I thought his response to ever being blackout drunk was gold. "Have you?"

That was so fucking awful. You’re there to confront your behavior towards women and that aggressive bullshit is how you reply to a woman. Fuck me.


Either they are so tone deaf to the world as to render themselves unelectable or the US really is lost.

Your bias has him being a rapist because he's conservative but try to step outside of that for a second how would you act if you were accused of rape in a scenario that's impossible to disprove becuase the only knowledge the victim has is it was you who did it decades ago. Your wife would hear this your kids would hear this. I would lose my shit personally.

on the flipside, how would you act if someone assaulted you, and witnesses that you were sure were there, didn't remember being there. and then backlash and ridicule started up, because of you seeming to be dishonest. would you start to doubt coming forward any further? would you find reasons or ways to push it off, out of anxiety and fear?

it could go both ways. i don't know what happened, but none of the rest of us do either, for sure. we're all speculating from our own perspectives, seb included.

Tiggnutz wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

Reign in Blood wrote:I thought his response to ever being blackout drunk was gold. "Have you?"

That was so fucking awful. You’re there to confront your behavior towards women and that aggressive bullshit is how you reply to a woman. Fuck me.


Either they are so tone deaf to the world as to render themselves unelectable or the US really is lost.

Your bias has him being a rapist because he's conservative but try to step outside of that for a second how would you act if you were accused of rape in a scenario that's impossible to disprove becuase the only knowledge the victim has is it was you who did it decades ago. Your wife would hear this your kids would hear this. I would lose my shit personally.

Not like that. That’s for damn sure. Because I would hope I’m not some privileged cunt.

zombie wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

Reign in Blood wrote:I thought his response to ever being blackout drunk was gold. "Have you?"

That was so fucking awful. You’re there to confront your behavior towards women and that aggressive bullshit is how you reply to a woman. Fuck me.


Either they are so tone deaf to the world as to render themselves unelectable or the US really is lost.

Your bias has him being a rapist because he's conservative but try to step outside of that for a second how would you act if you were accused of rape in a scenario that's impossible to disprove becuase the only knowledge the victim has is it was you who did it decades ago. Your wife would hear this your kids would hear this. I would lose my shit personally.

on the flipside, how would you act if someone assaulted you, and witnesses that you were sure were there, didn't remember being there. and then backlash and ridicule started up, because of you seeming to be dishonest. would you start to doubt coming forward any further? would you find reasons or ways to push it off, out of anxiety and fear?

it could go both ways. i don't know what happened, but none of the rest of us do either, for sure. we're all speculating from our own perspectives, seb included.

You make a valid point but I can tell you what I wouldn't do. Contact a news outlet before I contacted law enforcement. Let politicians use me and my trauma as a political torpedo.

Tiggnutz wrote:

zombie wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

Reign in Blood wrote:I thought his response to ever being blackout drunk was gold. "Have you?"

That was so fucking awful. You’re there to confront your behavior towards women and that aggressive bullshit is how you reply to a woman. Fuck me.


Either they are so tone deaf to the world as to render themselves unelectable or the US really is lost.

Your bias has him being a rapist because he's conservative but try to step outside of that for a second how would you act if you were accused of rape in a scenario that's impossible to disprove becuase the only knowledge the victim has is it was you who did it decades ago. Your wife would hear this your kids would hear this. I would lose my shit personally.

on the flipside, how would you act if someone assaulted you, and witnesses that you were sure were there, didn't remember being there. and then backlash and ridicule started up, because of you seeming to be dishonest. would you start to doubt coming forward any further? would you find reasons or ways to push it off, out of anxiety and fear?

it could go both ways. i don't know what happened, but none of the rest of us do either, for sure. we're all speculating from our own perspectives, seb included.

You make a valid point but I can tell you what I wouldn't do. Contact a news outlet before I contacted law enforcement. Let politicians use me and my trauma as a political torpedo.

she may have gone to law enforcement before, if this really happened the way she says it did? maybe they just blew her off cause there was nothing she could give as concrete evidence so nothing they could do?

zombie wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

zombie wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

Reign in Blood wrote:I thought his response to ever being blackout drunk was gold. "Have you?"

That was so fucking awful. You’re there to confront your behavior towards women and that aggressive bullshit is how you reply to a woman. Fuck me.


Either they are so tone deaf to the world as to render themselves unelectable or the US really is lost.

Your bias has him being a rapist because he's conservative but try to step outside of that for a second how would you act if you were accused of rape in a scenario that's impossible to disprove becuase the only knowledge the victim has is it was you who did it decades ago. Your wife would hear this your kids would hear this. I would lose my shit personally.

on the flipside, how would you act if someone assaulted you, and witnesses that you were sure were there, didn't remember being there. and then backlash and ridicule started up, because of you seeming to be dishonest. would you start to doubt coming forward any further? would you find reasons or ways to push it off, out of anxiety and fear?

it could go both ways. i don't know what happened, but none of the rest of us do either, for sure. we're all speculating from our own perspectives, seb included.

You make a valid point but I can tell you what I wouldn't do. Contact a news outlet before I contacted law enforcement. Let politicians use me and my trauma as a political torpedo.

she may have gone to law enforcement before, if this really happened the way she says it did? maybe they just blew her off cause there was nothing she could give as concrete evidence so nothing they could do?

If she did it's one more thing she forgot. I want to sympathize with her but in doing so I won't demonize someone else without a single particle of evidence.

Tiggnutz wrote:

zombie wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

zombie wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

Reign in Blood wrote:I thought his response to ever being blackout drunk was gold. "Have you?"

That was so fucking awful. You’re there to confront your behavior towards women and that aggressive bullshit is how you reply to a woman. Fuck me.


Either they are so tone deaf to the world as to render themselves unelectable or the US really is lost.

Your bias has him being a rapist because he's conservative but try to step outside of that for a second how would you act if you were accused of rape in a scenario that's impossible to disprove becuase the only knowledge the victim has is it was you who did it decades ago. Your wife would hear this your kids would hear this. I would lose my shit personally.

on the flipside, how would you act if someone assaulted you, and witnesses that you were sure were there, didn't remember being there. and then backlash and ridicule started up, because of you seeming to be dishonest. would you start to doubt coming forward any further? would you find reasons or ways to push it off, out of anxiety and fear?

it could go both ways. i don't know what happened, but none of the rest of us do either, for sure. we're all speculating from our own perspectives, seb included.

You make a valid point but I can tell you what I wouldn't do. Contact a news outlet before I contacted law enforcement. Let politicians use me and my trauma as a political torpedo.

she may have gone to law enforcement before, if this really happened the way she says it did? maybe they just blew her off cause there was nothing she could give as concrete evidence so nothing they could do?

If she did it's one more thing she forgot. I want to sympathize with her but in doing so I won't demonize someone else without a single particle of evidence.

And the cycle of violence against women continues unabated.

Tiggnutz wrote: If she did it's one more thing she forgot. I want to sympathize with her but in doing so I won't demonize someone else without a single particle of evidence.

fair play. i don't know what happened, myself. if you take a side, either way, you're demonizing someone who may have actually been wronged. and more often than not jumping to judge or demonize everyone else who also was accused or that made accusation of rape/assault. that's where i'll leave this.

showa58taro wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

zombie wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

zombie wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

Reign in Blood wrote:I thought his response to ever being blackout drunk was gold. "Have you?"

That was so fucking awful. You’re there to confront your behavior towards women and that aggressive bullshit is how you reply to a woman. Fuck me.


Either they are so tone deaf to the world as to render themselves unelectable or the US really is lost.

Your bias has him being a rapist because he's conservative but try to step outside of that for a second how would you act if you were accused of rape in a scenario that's impossible to disprove becuase the only knowledge the victim has is it was you who did it decades ago. Your wife would hear this your kids would hear this. I would lose my shit personally.

on the flipside, how would you act if someone assaulted you, and witnesses that you were sure were there, didn't remember being there. and then backlash and ridicule started up, because of you seeming to be dishonest. would you start to doubt coming forward any further? would you find reasons or ways to push it off, out of anxiety and fear?

it could go both ways. i don't know what happened, but none of the rest of us do either, for sure. we're all speculating from our own perspectives, seb included.

You make a valid point but I can tell you what I wouldn't do. Contact a news outlet before I contacted law enforcement. Let politicians use me and my trauma as a political torpedo.

she may have gone to law enforcement before, if this really happened the way she says it did? maybe they just blew her off cause there was nothing she could give as concrete evidence so nothing they could do?

If she did it's one more thing she forgot. I want to sympathize with her but in doing so I won't demonize someone else without a single particle of evidence.

And the cycle of violence against women continues unabated.

In Sweeden and the UK are you considered guilty because of an accusation I would think that not the case in any civilized free society. People are wrongly accused and spend decades in prison because of someone mistakenly honestly believing something. I hate this argument that it's not a trial and there is no need for evidence that is such an archaic way of doing things.

Tiggnutz wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

zombie wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

zombie wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

Reign in Blood wrote:I thought his response to ever being blackout drunk was gold. "Have you?"

That was so fucking awful. You’re there to confront your behavior towards women and that aggressive bullshit is how you reply to a woman. Fuck me.


Either they are so tone deaf to the world as to render themselves unelectable or the US really is lost.

Your bias has him being a rapist because he's conservative but try to step outside of that for a second how would you act if you were accused of rape in a scenario that's impossible to disprove becuase the only knowledge the victim has is it was you who did it decades ago. Your wife would hear this your kids would hear this. I would lose my shit personally.

on the flipside, how would you act if someone assaulted you, and witnesses that you were sure were there, didn't remember being there. and then backlash and ridicule started up, because of you seeming to be dishonest. would you start to doubt coming forward any further? would you find reasons or ways to push it off, out of anxiety and fear?

it could go both ways. i don't know what happened, but none of the rest of us do either, for sure. we're all speculating from our own perspectives, seb included.

You make a valid point but I can tell you what I wouldn't do. Contact a news outlet before I contacted law enforcement. Let politicians use me and my trauma as a political torpedo.

she may have gone to law enforcement before, if this really happened the way she says it did? maybe they just blew her off cause there was nothing she could give as concrete evidence so nothing they could do?

If she did it's one more thing she forgot. I want to sympathize with her but in doing so I won't demonize someone else without a single particle of evidence.

And the cycle of violence against women continues unabated.

In Sweeden and the UK are you considered guilty because of an accusation I would think that not the case in any civilized free society. People are wrongly accused and spend decades in prison because of someone mistakenly honestly believing something. I hate this argument that it's not a trial and there is no need for evidence that is such an archaic way of doing things.

I mean Kavanaugh deserves prison time for attempting to rape someone, but I don’t think that’s why they had Dr Ford tried here.

Sexual violence and assault is something that for too long has swung in the favourite of men and it needs to change but every move to change that, to try and equalize the playing field, is met by people like you, and Foo, who demand absolute proof where there rarely is any, regardless of credibility or suffering. And that’s why abusing women continues unabated. The odds of facing negative consequences are way too low for the men involved in this behavior and the likelihood of women reporting things decreases with every case like this one where a woman comes forward to do the right thing to the detriment of herself and her family, to subject herself to total humiliation and threatening behavior, and to the despite these sacrifices be turned away and disbelieved. It won’t ever get better if this is how it operates in every sphere we are in.