fair enough. you're right, that i didn't settle on any of the choices we were presented. i'll just take that you didn't really have a different view on trump at all, but wanted to make that claim so you could point to something as having your mind changed. *shrug*Foo wrote:
It was numerous things. As I said, Jason clearly tossed his support behind Trump and presented rationale. Who were you advocating for? Who was Head advocating for? AlI saw from you guys was anti-Trump negativity and the same old non-sense about wanting more choices, which is like saying you want a unicorn for Christmas.
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Why is it not good enough that I am flat out telling you what was going on in my own mind? Is it that implausible that I was not really able to follow the race that closely, so I learned information from a friend about it? I learned of new films here and got information on them as well. Am I lying about all of that or something?zombie wrote:fair enough. you're right, that i didn't settle on any of the choices we were presented. i'll just take that you didn't really have a different view on trump at all, but wanted to make that claim so you could point to something as having your mind changed. *shrug*Foo wrote:
It was numerous things. As I said, Jason clearly tossed his support behind Trump and presented rationale. Who were you advocating for? Who was Head advocating for? AlI saw from you guys was anti-Trump negativity and the same old non-sense about wanting more choices, which is like saying you want a unicorn for Christmas.
Kinda weird that because someone disagrees with you, that you think you have to fill in information that keeps your world view intact. Again, Jason was the person here telling you why to support a person. I can't recall a single time since the primaries that you actually supported anyone. Same with Head. It was nothing but negativity.
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what is my world view? that people can't change their minds? lol.. no, i dont think you're lying about this. i guess i just had the wrong impression of what you meant in the first place. like you were opposed to something about trump and jason changed your mind. sorry.Foo wrote:Why is it not good enough that I am flat out telling you what was going on in my own mind? Is it that implausible that I was not really able to follow the race that closely, so I learned information from a friend about it? I learned of new films here and got information on them as well. Am I lying about all of that or something?zombie wrote:fair enough. you're right, that i didn't settle on any of the choices we were presented. i'll just take that you didn't really have a different view on trump at all, but wanted to make that claim so you could point to something as having your mind changed. *shrug*Foo wrote:
It was numerous things. As I said, Jason clearly tossed his support behind Trump and presented rationale. Who were you advocating for? Who was Head advocating for? AlI saw from you guys was anti-Trump negativity and the same old non-sense about wanting more choices, which is like saying you want a unicorn for Christmas.
Kinda weird that because someone disagrees with you, that you think you have to fill in information that keeps your world view intact. Again, Jason was the person here telling you why to support a person. I can't recall a single time since the primaries that you actually supported anyone. Same with Head. It was nothing but negativity.
but you accuse me all of the time about dancing around an answer and not actually committing, so yeah.
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I was neutral on Trump. Did not like the way he spoke at times. Felt he was also focused on the wrong things at times, or had trouble maintaining a consistent message.zombie wrote:what is my world view? that people can't change their minds? lol.. no, i dont think you're lying about this. i guess i just had the wrong impression of what you meant in the first place. like you were opposed to something about trump and jason changed your mind. sorry.Foo wrote:Why is it not good enough that I am flat out telling you what was going on in my own mind? Is it that implausible that I was not really able to follow the race that closely, so I learned information from a friend about it? I learned of new films here and got information on them as well. Am I lying about all of that or something?zombie wrote:fair enough. you're right, that i didn't settle on any of the choices we were presented. i'll just take that you didn't really have a different view on trump at all, but wanted to make that claim so you could point to something as having your mind changed. *shrug*Foo wrote:
It was numerous things. As I said, Jason clearly tossed his support behind Trump and presented rationale. Who were you advocating for? Who was Head advocating for? AlI saw from you guys was anti-Trump negativity and the same old non-sense about wanting more choices, which is like saying you want a unicorn for Christmas.
Kinda weird that because someone disagrees with you, that you think you have to fill in information that keeps your world view intact. Again, Jason was the person here telling you why to support a person. I can't recall a single time since the primaries that you actually supported anyone. Same with Head. It was nothing but negativity.
but you accuse me all of the time about dancing around an answer and not actually committing, so yeah.
Jason was supporting him, and I was listening. He put out good information on Trump's agenda and policy.
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what wrong things? did jason change your mind on it, or did trump move away from focusing on those things?Foo wrote:
I was neutral on Trump. Did not like the way he spoke at times. Felt he was also focused on the wrong things at times, or had trouble maintaining a consistent message.
Jason was supporting him, and I was listening. He put out good information on Trump's agenda and policy.
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I can't recall specifics, but there were times I felt he got off message. Jason provided a lot of info on Trump, and he provided a lot of info about how he was and has been mistreated by the media.zombie wrote:what wrong things? did jason change your mind on it, or did trump move away from focusing on those things?Foo wrote:
I was neutral on Trump. Did not like the way he spoke at times. Felt he was also focused on the wrong things at times, or had trouble maintaining a consistent message.
Jason was supporting him, and I was listening. He put out good information on Trump's agenda and policy.
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yeah, he was off the cuff a lot of the time. i thought was a big part of what appealed to you guys though?Foo wrote:I can't recall specifics, but there were times I felt he got off message. Jason provided a lot of info on Trump, and he provided a lot of info about how he was and has been mistreated by the media.zombie wrote:what wrong things? did jason change your mind on it, or did trump move away from focusing on those things?Foo wrote:
I was neutral on Trump. Did not like the way he spoke at times. Felt he was also focused on the wrong things at times, or had trouble maintaining a consistent message.
Jason was supporting him, and I was listening. He put out good information on Trump's agenda and policy.
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I like his trolling. I would like to see him continually hammer points harder. Also, he should toughen up on welfare programs, disability, prescription drugs, and Planned Parenthood. Would also like him to tweet more. The tweeting kinda rocks.zombie wrote:yeah, he was off the cuff a lot of the time. i thought was a big part of what appealed to you guys though?Foo wrote:I can't recall specifics, but there were times I felt he got off message. Jason provided a lot of info on Trump, and he provided a lot of info about how he was and has been mistreated by the media.zombie wrote:what wrong things? did jason change your mind on it, or did trump move away from focusing on those things?Foo wrote:
I was neutral on Trump. Did not like the way he spoke at times. Felt he was also focused on the wrong things at times, or had trouble maintaining a consistent message.
Jason was supporting him, and I was listening. He put out good information on Trump's agenda and policy.
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he is pretty snowflakey with his tweets honestly, but if you like that from him. cool.Foo wrote:I like his trolling. I would like to see him continually hammer points harder. Also, he should toughen up on welfare programs, disability, prescription drugs, and Planned Parenthood. Would also like him to tweet more. The tweeting kinda rocks.zombie wrote:yeah, he was off the cuff a lot of the time. i thought was a big part of what appealed to you guys though?Foo wrote:I can't recall specifics, but there were times I felt he got off message. Jason provided a lot of info on Trump, and he provided a lot of info about how he was and has been mistreated by the media.zombie wrote:what wrong things? did jason change your mind on it, or did trump move away from focusing on those things?Foo wrote:
I was neutral on Trump. Did not like the way he spoke at times. Felt he was also focused on the wrong things at times, or had trouble maintaining a consistent message.
Jason was supporting him, and I was listening. He put out good information on Trump's agenda and policy.
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Right! That's no way to talk to EurotrashReign in Blood wrote:Which sickens and disgusts. There's no fun in that...showa58taro wrote:I also love arguing with Zombie. He's actually going to address me as a real person. Notjust a punching bag.
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Then all is well. If abusers get punished without pressing charges then Muslim Americans are safe.Foo wrote:I could live with that if we decided this was going to be how we handled every situation of abuse. I think for me, I desire consistency. For instance, society will press charges of abuse against a husband even if the wife refuses to press charges. Society made the decision to protect the individual, even if it goes against her wishes.Reign in Blood wrote:Foo, in our country, it's entirely their choice. If a Muslim woman chooses to wear it in all honesty, or through fear of abuse, it makes no nevermind. Just the same as a woman who is actually getting the shit beat of her chooses to continually go back to the fucker, and press no charges. The avenue is there for them. But people are too easily brain-washed sometimes.Foo wrote:The point is that society sets standards of dress. To claim in any way that setting a dress standard is somehow a greater restriction than condoning the abuse and oppression of women is absurd. By allowing the hijab, you are assisting the abuse, rather than standing against it.zombie wrote:i thought you were arguing that they aren't free. if everyone is not free (for that very silly reason) then they can be not free wearing the hijab, and not free wearing something other than the hijab.
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Z, can't believe there's a Lenin statue. Hilarious. But it sounds like it's an ironic statue.
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maybe so. i still see removing it, particularly in this climate, to be censorship of a sort.showa58taro wrote:Z, can't believe there's a Lenin statue. Hilarious. But it sounds like it's an ironic statue.
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Why would anyone want to remove a joke Lenin statue from a hipster commune i Seattle. That thing is amazing.zombie wrote:maybe so. i still see removing it, particularly in this climate, to be censorship of a sort.showa58taro wrote:Z, can't believe there's a Lenin statue. Hilarious. But it sounds like it's an ironic statue.
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Pretty obvious building anything is a bad idea, because some perpetually offended snowflakes will find a problem with everything. Do nothing productive, yet criticize everything. Amazing.
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Tell us how you really feel?Foo wrote:Pretty obvious building anything is a bad idea, because some perpetually offended snowflakes will find a problem with everything. Do nothing productive, yet criticize everything. Amazing.
What's with the amateur dramatics?
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so, it represents different things to different people. despite the history of vladimir lenin and his era? interesting.showa58taro wrote:Why would anyone want to remove a joke Lenin statue from a hipster commune i Seattle. That thing is amazing.zombie wrote:maybe so. i still see removing it, particularly in this climate, to be censorship of a sort.showa58taro wrote:Z, can't believe there's a Lenin statue. Hilarious. But it sounds like it's an ironic statue.
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I saw nothing dramatic, just spot on truth spoutin', baby!showa58taro wrote:Tell us how you really feel?Foo wrote:Pretty obvious building anything is a bad idea, because some perpetually offended snowflakes will find a problem with everything. Do nothing productive, yet criticize everything. Amazing.
What's with the amateur dramatics?
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Not just that it represents different things, no. Although here that could be true. It has a different purpose altogether.zombie wrote:so, it represents different things to different people. despite the history of vladimir lenin and his era? interesting.showa58taro wrote:Why would anyone want to remove a joke Lenin statue from a hipster commune i Seattle. That thing is amazing.zombie wrote:maybe so. i still see removing it, particularly in this climate, to be censorship of a sort.showa58taro wrote:Z, can't believe there's a Lenin statue. Hilarious. But it sounds like it's an ironic statue.
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Snowflake couldn't have melted faster tbhReign in Blood wrote:I saw nothing dramatic, just spot on truth spoutin', baby!showa58taro wrote:Tell us how you really feel?Foo wrote:Pretty obvious building anything is a bad idea, because some perpetually offended snowflakes will find a problem with everything. Do nothing productive, yet criticize everything. Amazing.
What's with the amateur dramatics?