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Headhunter wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:Do you all know what happens in that game or did you just hear lesbian and transgender and knew you had to weigh in. More was leaked than just what Jason put in spoilers.

That’s exactly what happened before we weighed in. Reaction, counter-reaction.

I dont care that Ellie is a lesbian it doesn't matter to me at all shes one of the greatest characters ever put in a video game just as the Male character Joel is. The whole point of Last of Us is their relationship and seeing the world they live in through their eyes. Last of Us has no equal when it comes to character building. I was emotionally invested playing it even more than I can get from watching a movie.
I have no prejudices towards lesbians or transgendered people but when I saw that they kill joel with a transgender than you play the rest of the game as the transgender going to kill Ellie it pissed me off because its clear to me it was a social agenda decision.

So it’s a social agenda issue? If it was a straight woman doing the killing, is it just as bad? Better? Worse? I don’t see the problem with shifting to another perspective that flips the original protagonist dynamic on its head. Actually seems like a cool wrinkle to me.

I would not want to play the character that does the killing no matter who it was it would not interest me. Maybe it is an unusual attachment I have to Ellie and Joel but it's not just me and Jason those characters are widely beloved. This decision makes no sense to me and that's why I suspect different motives

You can’t just hit the same exact notes in a sequel and still have it be interesting though.

Do you think more people are complaining about the character being killed or the trans arc in general?

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:Do you all know what happens in that game or did you just hear lesbian and transgender and knew you had to weigh in. More was leaked than just what Jason put in spoilers.

That’s exactly what happened before we weighed in. Reaction, counter-reaction.

I dont care that Ellie is a lesbian it doesn't matter to me at all shes one of the greatest characters ever put in a video game just as the Male character Joel is. The whole point of Last of Us is their relationship and seeing the world they live in through their eyes. Last of Us has no equal when it comes to character building. I was emotionally invested playing it even more than I can get from watching a movie.
I have no prejudices towards lesbians or transgendered people but when I saw that they kill joel with a transgender than you play the rest of the game as the transgender going to kill Ellie it pissed me off because its clear to me it was a social agenda decision.

So it’s a social agenda issue? If it was a straight woman doing the killing, is it just as bad? Better? Worse? I don’t see the problem with shifting to another perspective that flips the original protagonist dynamic on its head. Actually seems like a cool wrinkle to me.

When people do it for the sake of doing it, it's a turn off. How is a trans person going to get hormones when technology has been dead for 30 years? The first game was life changing, really. One of the greatest stories ever. Including all the games I've played, books I've read and movies I've seen. Will always feel that way. This sequel is a completely different thing. They injected current social issues into a game that was so well put together and easily allowed us to escape from our own every day world. I was completely wrapped up in the first game. I am not into woke shit and they spewed it all over the second one, so I'm not playing it. That's all.

What would be an example of a trans character that is not created for the sake of creating one? It will always feel that way when you’re underrepresented.

Are you of the opinion that in this world, trans people will all suddenly revert to their assigned gender when shit goes down? Why would that make sense?

Why do they have to be represented so much? The focus should be representing trans people in a psychiatrists office.

Reign in Blood wrote:If the creators want to Jar Jar their shit up, Go for it. Don't look for guys like me to get on my knees and say how groundbreaking, innovative, whatever that stupid bullshit decision is. That's somebody else.

Headhunter wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:Do you all know what happens in that game or did you just hear lesbian and transgender and knew you had to weigh in. More was leaked than just what Jason put in spoilers.

That’s exactly what happened before we weighed in. Reaction, counter-reaction.

I dont care that Ellie is a lesbian it doesn't matter to me at all shes one of the greatest characters ever put in a video game just as the Male character Joel is. The whole point of Last of Us is their relationship and seeing the world they live in through their eyes. Last of Us has no equal when it comes to character building. I was emotionally invested playing it even more than I can get from watching a movie.
I have no prejudices towards lesbians or transgendered people but when I saw that they kill joel with a transgender than you play the rest of the game as the transgender going to kill Ellie it pissed me off because its clear to me it was a social agenda decision.

So it’s a social agenda issue? If it was a straight woman doing the killing, is it just as bad? Better? Worse? I don’t see the problem with shifting to another perspective that flips the original protagonist dynamic on its head. Actually seems like a cool wrinkle to me.

I would not want to play the character that does the killing no matter who it was it would not interest me. Maybe it is an unusual attachment I have to Ellie and Joel but it's not just me and Jason those characters are widely beloved. This decision makes no sense to me and that's why I suspect different motives

You can’t just hit the same exact notes in a sequel and still have it be interesting though.

Do you think more people are complaining about the character being killed or the trans arc in general?

Jason wrote:Imagine Obi Wan in a Star Wars remake wanting to cut his dick off with his lightsaber.

Jmac Attack wrote:Just food for thought. I dont remember any outrage when one of the gay dudes on Will and Grace ended up falling in love with a woman. And they brought the show back, even.

Reign in Blood wrote:If the creators want to Jar Jar their shit up, Go for it. Don't look for guys like me to get on my knees and say how groundbreaking, innovative, whatever that stupid bullshit decision is. That's somebody else.

Tiggnutz wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:Do you all know what happens in that game or did you just hear lesbian and transgender and knew you had to weigh in. More was leaked than just what Jason put in spoilers.

That’s exactly what happened before we weighed in. Reaction, counter-reaction.

I dont care that Ellie is a lesbian it doesn't matter to me at all shes one of the greatest characters ever put in a video game just as the Male character Joel is. The whole point of Last of Us is their relationship and seeing the world they live in through their eyes. Last of Us has no equal when it comes to character building. I was emotionally invested playing it even more than I can get from watching a movie.
I have no prejudices towards lesbians or transgendered people but when I saw that they kill joel with a transgender than you play the rest of the game as the transgender going to kill Ellie it pissed me off because its clear to me it was a social agenda decision.

So it’s a social agenda issue? If it was a straight woman doing the killing, is it just as bad? Better? Worse? I don’t see the problem with shifting to another perspective that flips the original protagonist dynamic on its head. Actually seems like a cool wrinkle to me.

I would not want to play the character that does the killing no matter who it was it would not interest me. Maybe it is an unusual attachment I have to Ellie and Joel but it's not just me and Jason those characters are widely beloved. This decision makes no sense to me and that's why I suspect different motives

You can’t just hit the same exact notes in a sequel and still have it be interesting though.

Do you think more people are complaining about the character being killed or the trans arc in general?

Everyone sees it as connected a trend of wiping away cherished history and replacing it with new political ideology

Headhunter wrote:

Jason wrote:Imagine Obi Wan in a Star Wars remake wanting to cut his dick off with his lightsaber.

So the trans character was in the first game, but not trans?

Headhunter wrote:

Reign in Blood wrote:If the creators want to Jar Jar their shit up, Go for it. Don't look for guys like me to get on my knees and say how groundbreaking, innovative, whatever that stupid bullshit decision is. That's somebody else.

Did you know The Phantom Menace would suck before you saw it?

Headhunter wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:Do you all know what happens in that game or did you just hear lesbian and transgender and knew you had to weigh in. More was leaked than just what Jason put in spoilers.

That’s exactly what happened before we weighed in. Reaction, counter-reaction.

I dont care that Ellie is a lesbian it doesn't matter to me at all shes one of the greatest characters ever put in a video game just as the Male character Joel is. The whole point of Last of Us is their relationship and seeing the world they live in through their eyes. Last of Us has no equal when it comes to character building. I was emotionally invested playing it even more than I can get from watching a movie.
I have no prejudices towards lesbians or transgendered people but when I saw that they kill joel with a transgender than you play the rest of the game as the transgender going to kill Ellie it pissed me off because its clear to me it was a social agenda decision.

So it’s a social agenda issue? If it was a straight woman doing the killing, is it just as bad? Better? Worse? I don’t see the problem with shifting to another perspective that flips the original protagonist dynamic on its head. Actually seems like a cool wrinkle to me.

I would not want to play the character that does the killing no matter who it was it would not interest me. Maybe it is an unusual attachment I have to Ellie and Joel but it's not just me and Jason those characters are widely beloved. This decision makes no sense to me and that's why I suspect different motives

You can’t just hit the same exact notes in a sequel and still have it be interesting though.

Do you think more people are complaining about the character being killed or the trans arc in general?

Everyone sees it as connected a trend of wiping away cherished history and replacing it with new political ideology

What ideology? Trans people existing? I’m certain you’ve met one or two in your life.

Reign in Blood wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Reign in Blood wrote:If the creators want to Jar Jar their shit up, Go for it. Don't look for guys like me to get on my knees and say how groundbreaking, innovative, whatever that stupid bullshit decision is. That's somebody else.

Did you know The Phantom Menace would suck before you saw it?

P sure. I was young, dumb, full of cum, had lots of other important shit on the mind at the time, but yeah, p sure I did.

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Jason wrote:Imagine Obi Wan in a Star Wars remake wanting to cut his dick off with his lightsaber.

So the trans character was in the first game, but not trans?

No. That's just an example of Hollywood and social justice warriors injecting their wokeness into a beloved franchise that 99.9% of people don't care about. Nobody cares about the current social climate when playing a game about an apocalypse or watching a movie that takes place in a galaxy far, far away.

Reign in Blood wrote:

Jmac Attack wrote:Just food for thought. I dont remember any outrage when one of the gay dudes on Will and Grace ended up falling in love with a woman. And they brought the show back, even.

Because nobody ever watched that stupid fucking show. Good christ.

Headhunter wrote:I’ve never been one that needs escapism in my entertainment though. I think people really overreact to that shit.

Headhunter wrote:

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Jason wrote:Imagine Obi Wan in a Star Wars remake wanting to cut his dick off with his lightsaber.

So the trans character was in the first game, but not trans?

No. That's just an example of Hollywood and social justice warriors injecting their wokeness into a beloved franchise that 99.9% of people don't care about. Nobody cares about the current social climate when playing a game about an apocalypse or watching a movie that takes place in a galaxy far, far away.

Are there no social dynamics in a post-apocalyptic world or a galaxy far far away? Pretty sure there would be since they both still consist of people.

Reign in Blood wrote:

Headhunter wrote:I’ve never been one that needs escapism in my entertainment though. I think people really overreact to that shit.

I don't either. It's cool when done well, nothing more. Stupid is stupid though.