Jmac Attack wrote:Trump derangement syndrome. Loshowa58taro wrote:Not always. Though increasingly on here and in social media.Tiggnutz wrote:Politics is a dumpster fire except one with rabid fans
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Jmac Attack wrote:Trump derangement syndrome. Loshowa58taro wrote:Not always. Though increasingly on here and in social media.Tiggnutz wrote:Politics is a dumpster fire except one with rabid fans
Or Trump devotion syndromeJmac Attack wrote:Jmac Attack wrote:Trump derangement syndrome. Loshowa58taro wrote:Not always. Though increasingly on here and in social media.Tiggnutz wrote:Politics is a dumpster fire except one with rabid fans
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That just means you know these people are idiots but don’t want to admit it.Jason wrote:I am 50/50 on all this.
It has nothing to do with the people. I'm saying I'm 50/50 on whether or not to start opening things up.Headhunter wrote:That just means you know these people are idiots but don’t want to admit it.Jason wrote:I am 50/50 on all this.
So clearly not viable at this stage.Jason wrote:It has nothing to do with the people. I'm saying I'm 50/50 on whether or not to start opening things up.Headhunter wrote:That just means you know these people are idiots but don’t want to admit it.Jason wrote:I am 50/50 on all this.
Why not?Headhunter wrote:So clearly not viable at this stage.Jason wrote:It has nothing to do with the people. I'm saying I'm 50/50 on whether or not to start opening things up.Headhunter wrote:That just means you know these people are idiots but don’t want to admit it.Jason wrote:I am 50/50 on all this.
Not even close to enough testing. Re-open too soon and we’re significantly more fucked than we are now. Short term, myopic “save the economy” thinking that doesn’t account for the effect of a second wave.Jason wrote:Why not?Headhunter wrote:So clearly not viable at this stage.Jason wrote:It has nothing to do with the people. I'm saying I'm 50/50 on whether or not to start opening things up.Headhunter wrote:That just means you know these people are idiots but don’t want to admit it.Jason wrote:I am 50/50 on all this.
The likelihood of a second wave increases with this self-isolation. It runs the risk of becoming endemic, so the two scenarios we're looking at are 1) let it burn through quicker and become obsolete, but hospitals are overrun, resulting in more deaths in a shorter period of time. 2) Quarantine, slow the curve, further damage the world economy and increase the risk of this disease becoming endemic when we aren't expected to have a vaccine for at least one or two years, likely resulting in far more deaths long term than option one.Headhunter wrote:Not even close to enough testing. Re-open too soon and we’re significantly more fucked than we are now. Short term, myopic “save the economy” thinking that doesn’t account for the effect of a second wave.Jason wrote:Why not?Headhunter wrote:So clearly not viable at this stage.Jason wrote:It has nothing to do with the people. I'm saying I'm 50/50 on whether or not to start opening things up.Headhunter wrote:That just means you know these people are idiots but don’t want to admit it.Jason wrote:I am 50/50 on all this.
I haven't seen them being babied. I've seen them in their own circle jerk, as if they're fighting tyranny. I mean, this is how a tyrannical government could begin a takeover, but I am pretty much 100% certain we're not seeing that here.Headhunter wrote:Communism doesn’t have a thing to do with this. Jumping off a cliff with the conviction that you at least aren’t a Communist won’t stop you from killing yourself. These people are idiots and people need to stop babying them. They should be shamed, they’re not patriots, they’re menaces.
And those people on the beach are not living in a beach bubble where they only make each other sick. They have homes and buy groceries.
There’s more economic risk if everything falls off a cliff in a short amount of time.Jason wrote:The likelihood of a second wave increases with this self-isolation. It runs the risk of becoming endemic, so the two scenarios we're looking at are 1) let it burn through quicker and become obsolete, but hospitals are overrun, resulting in more deaths in a shorter period of time. 2) Quarantine, slow the curve, further damage the world economy and increase the risk of this disease becoming endemic when we aren't expected to have a vaccine for at least one or two years, likely resulting in far more deaths long term than option one.Headhunter wrote:Not even close to enough testing. Re-open too soon and we’re significantly more fucked than we are now. Short term, myopic “save the economy” thinking that doesn’t account for the effect of a second wave.Jason wrote:Why not?Headhunter wrote:So clearly not viable at this stage.Jason wrote:It has nothing to do with the people. I'm saying I'm 50/50 on whether or not to start opening things up.Headhunter wrote:That just means you know these people are idiots but don’t want to admit it.Jason wrote:I am 50/50 on all this.
Neither are good scenarios.
Most things have already fallen off a cliff.Headhunter wrote:There’s more economic risk if everything falls off a cliff in a short amount of time.Jason wrote:The likelihood of a second wave increases with this self-isolation. It runs the risk of becoming endemic, so the two scenarios we're looking at are 1) let it burn through quicker and become obsolete, but hospitals are overrun, resulting in more deaths in a shorter period of time. 2) Quarantine, slow the curve, further damage the world economy and increase the risk of this disease becoming endemic when we aren't expected to have a vaccine for at least one or two years, likely resulting in far more deaths long term than option one.Headhunter wrote:Not even close to enough testing. Re-open too soon and we’re significantly more fucked than we are now. Short term, myopic “save the economy” thinking that doesn’t account for the effect of a second wave.Jason wrote:Why not?Headhunter wrote:So clearly not viable at this stage.Jason wrote:It has nothing to do with the people. I'm saying I'm 50/50 on whether or not to start opening things up.Headhunter wrote:That just means you know these people are idiots but don’t want to admit it.Jason wrote:I am 50/50 on all this.
Neither are good scenarios.
Yeah they’re not fighting tyranny, they’re just assholes. This is like the ugliest side of individualistic, self-interested American culture having a love child with the far right paranoid conspiracist part of society. We baby them when we frame these actions as defending American values. There’s nothing romantic about this, it’s a sliver of society allowing their ignorance to hurt everyone around them. It’s fucked.Jason wrote:I haven't seen them being babied. I've seen them in their own circle jerk, as if they're fighting tyranny. I mean, this is how a tyrannical government could begin a takeover, but I am pretty much 100% certain we're not seeing that here.Headhunter wrote:Communism doesn’t have a thing to do with this. Jumping off a cliff with the conviction that you at least aren’t a Communist won’t stop you from killing yourself. These people are idiots and people need to stop babying them. They should be shamed, they’re not patriots, they’re menaces.
And those people on the beach are not living in a beach bubble where they only make each other sick. They have homes and buy groceries.