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Re: Random Political Comments
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 4:14 am
by Headhunter
Jason, can you think of anything that would have been a better use of that six weeks for Trump than golfing, holding rallies and whining about Democrats? Or was “absolutely nothing” the move.
Re: Random Political Comments
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 4:18 am
by Jason
showa58taro wrote:Jason wrote:showa58taro wrote:Jason wrote:Seb, what are your thoughts on Italy virtue signaling and implementing "Hug a Chinese" Day at a time when the virus was spreading rapidly and the only person who was taking it seriously was Trump?
It was a good hearted gesture to quell racism.
It achieves nothing but these things never do.
The biggest issue in EVERY country is underestimating the spread and failing to ramp up testing.
This is my biggest pet peeve... China is not a race.
Good thing Trump suspended travel and implemented quarantine when everyone advised him not to.
It was. It was quite a good thing. Followed by a really bad thing.
If he pulled a vaccine out of his back pocket you'd still bitch about it. People bitched about him recommending hydroxychloroquine when he is not a medical expert, yet, here it is, saving lives. Doctors are praising Trump for making it mainstream. Zinc goes into the channel that the hydroxychloroquine opens up and shuts down the virus. But... Why should he have even done anything about the virus in the first place? He's not a medical expert. Listen to the WHO you orange stupid. They are the expert on World HEALTH. Not you, Drumpf.
China lied, people died.
Re: Random Political Comments
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 4:19 am
by Jason
Headhunter wrote:Jason, can you think of anything that would have been a better use of that six weeks for Trump than golfing, holding rallies and whining about Democrats? Or was “absolutely nothing” the move.
Honestly I wish he'd tear up the deal with China and let them fend for themselves. See how long the export-only communists survive without their biggest buyer.
Re: Random Political Comments
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 4:25 am
by Headhunter
As expected, you have absolutely no retort because there’s none to be made, his inaction fucked us. Just bitch about China in hindsight as if that’s any fucking help whatsoever and shamelessly ignore or downplay the six week window when every resource should have been devoted to making preparations, which is his fucking job. And you’re such a deranged Trump cultist, you think it’s perfectly justifiable that he would have spent that time “fucking Melania and watching Tiger King”. I guess the preventable deaths of thousands of Americans thanks to six weeks of doing nothing are A-okay. Can’t miss that tee time. You can never claim to be “objective” about Trump ever again after this.
Re: Random Political Comments
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 4:30 am
by showa58taro
Jason wrote:showa58taro wrote:Jason wrote:Headhunter wrote:You keep repeating the one thing he did that was hardly effective while ignoring the next six weeks where he didn’t do a fucking thing. He has blood on his hands.
You're insane. You refuse to give credit where it's due. The only blood on anyone's hands is on China and the WHO. Nobody else. Suspending travel likely saved hundreds of thousands of lives. There is no blood on this hands, at this point it's how many lives can be saved due to China and the WHO causing this thing to damage the entire world.
It WOULD HAVE saved thousand or tens or even hundreds of thousands of lives had those6-8 weeks resulted in the US being ready. It did not.
Nobody is ready. Trying to stop an extremely contagious virus is like trying to stop the wind. Trump got ahead of this two months before anyone but him was taking it seriously.
China lied, people died.
That’s just excuses. More testing, more social distancing, more PPE, more Ventilators, more ICU beds, more contact tracing, more coordinated use of resources. All things he could do and didn’t. All reasons you have much higher rates of infection and deaths per capita.
And Trump never seems to mourn for the tens of thousands dead. Not heard one actual heartfelt condolence. Just braggadocio about how awesome he is.
Re: Random Political Comments
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 4:31 am
by showa58taro
Trump is still lying. People are still dying.
Guess rhymes are fun.
Re: Random Political Comments
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 4:33 am
by Headhunter
Thousands of Americans dead thanks to Donald Trump. But just close your eyes, stick your fingers in your ears and scream “CHINA CHINA CHINA” when that box was long opened. You are Captain Hindsight focusing every bit of energy on demonizing the arson while ignoring the fire that was growing and growing and killing people. Yes, the arson fucked us over, that in itself is a perfectly acceptable thing to say. You know what would be even more productive? Focusing on the fucking fire before it’s out of control. What Trump did was spend weeks telling everyone that the fire would burn itself out, then hit the golf course and bitch about his “enemies”. Fuck him.
Re: Random Political Comments
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 4:34 am
by Jason
Headhunter wrote:As expected, you have absolutely no retort because there’s none to be made, his inaction fucked us. Just bitch about China in hindsight as if that’s any fucking help whatsoever and shamelessly ignore or downplay the six week window when every resource should have been devoted to making preparations, which is his fucking job. And you’re such a deranged Trump cultist, you think it’s perfectly justifiable that he would have spent that time “fucking Melanie and watching Tiger King”. I guess the preventable deaths of thousands of Americans thanks to six weeks of doing nothing are A-okay. Can’t miss that tee time. You can never claim to be “objective” about Trump ever again after this.
He formed the coronavirus task force and continuously added members throughout all of February and March. Pretty sure people are still being added. He's actually doing shit about this. It's sad that you wish he wasn't so you have a reason to hate him. You want him to pull a vaccine out of his back pocket that he made himself in a private lab. The only problem with him doing that is you'll weasel around it with another heel turn about how "the vaccine probably won't be as effective as the flu virus" or some nonsense. Trump was doing shit about this virus TWO MONTHS before anybody was taking it seriously. And now in hindsight you're mad because not everyone can be saved.
This is like getting mad at George Bush for not climbing up the Twin Towers on 9/11 and swatting planes out of the air. That's exactly how retarded you sound right now.
Re: Random Political Comments
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 4:37 am
by Headhunter
showa58taro wrote:Jason wrote:showa58taro wrote:Jason wrote:Headhunter wrote:You keep repeating the one thing he did that was hardly effective while ignoring the next six weeks where he didn’t do a fucking thing. He has blood on his hands.
You're insane. You refuse to give credit where it's due. The only blood on anyone's hands is on China and the WHO. Nobody else. Suspending travel likely saved hundreds of thousands of lives. There is no blood on this hands, at this point it's how many lives can be saved due to China and the WHO causing this thing to damage the entire world.
It WOULD HAVE saved thousand or tens or even hundreds of thousands of lives had those6-8 weeks resulted in the US being ready. It did not.
Nobody is ready. Trying to stop an extremely contagious virus is like trying to stop the wind. Trump got ahead of this two months before anyone but him was taking it seriously.
China lied, people died.
That’s just excuses. More testing, more social distancing, more PPE, more Ventilators, more ICU beds, more contact tracing, more coordinated use of resources. All things he could do and didn’t. All reasons you have much higher rates of infection and deaths per capita.
And Trump never seems to mourn for the tens of thousands dead. Not heard one actual heartfelt condolence. Just braggadocio about how awesome he is.
Yup. 10/10 job while taking no responsibility. That’s a great indicator of a pathetic human being. Seeking credit at every turn and never accepting a bit of responsibility for when things go wrong. Because he’s a micro penis in human form who had never done a productive thing that didn’t include fucking over working class people.
Re: Random Political Comments
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 4:39 am
by Jason
Using the dead to try to justify Trump Derangement Syndrome is fucking gross. It's a shame there are so many liberals who are insane enough to wish harm on others to justify their personal dislike for one person.
"The bottom has to fall out at some point, and by the way I'm hoping for it, because the only way you get rid of Trump is a crashing economy. Sorry if that hurts people".
Disgusting mentality.
Re: Random Political Comments
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 4:45 am
by Headhunter
Jason wrote:Using the dead to try to justify Trump Derangement Syndrome is fucking gross. It's a shame there are so many liberals who are insane enough to wish harm on others to justify their personal dislike for one person.
"The bottom has to fall out at some point, and by the way I'm hoping for it, because the only way you get rid of Trump is a crashing economy. Sorry if that hurts people".
Disgusting mentality.
Trump killed thousands of people and he doesn’t give a fuck. Your hero is a pathetic excuse for a leader and has been nothing but a shit stain on the world from the very beginning. Should have wrapped up on that fuck, Fred.
Re: Random Political Comments
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 4:46 am
by Headhunter
It’s easier for you to pretend that I want people to die. It’s impossible to accept that your hero could have prevented thousands of deaths and didn’t.
Re: Random Political Comments
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 4:47 am
by Jason
If only he was on Tower 2 swatting planes out of the air on 9/11. Trump killed thousands of Americans on 9/11.
Re: Random Political Comments
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 4:50 am
by Headhunter
Yes, and that’s a great comparison because 9/11 was another case where the president knew exactly what was going to happen and spent the six prior weeks golfing, saying the towers will only have a few broken windows and bitching about his enemies.
Oh that didn’t happen leading up to 9/11? Shit.
Re: Random Political Comments
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 4:52 am
by Headhunter
Six weeks. No productive measures taken. You can’t hide from the truth even if it hurts your Trump worshipping sensibilities. But you can make a desperate straw man about vaccines, horrible analogies to past events with no similarity and scream about China.
Re: Random Political Comments
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 4:53 am
by Jason
Headhunter wrote:Yes, and that’s a great comparison because 9/11 was another case where the president knew exactly what was going to happen and spent the six prior weeks golfing, saying the towers will only have a few broken windows and bitching about his enemies.
Oh that didn’t happen leading up to 9/11? Shit.
You sound like a conspiracy theorist. You are the same person as the people who are gathering in droves and shouting about tyranny. The irony is stunning here.
This conversation was going smoothly until you tapped into that part of your brain where you refuse to give credit where it's due and shift blame from the parties responsible to the one person you
wish was responsible.
Gross. I'm going to bed.
Re: Random Political Comments
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 4:54 am
by showa58taro
Even now, in April, he’s not engaging with key challenges and looking for safe ways to wash his hands. It’s very transparent.
Re: Random Political Comments
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 4:56 am
by Headhunter
Jason wrote:Headhunter wrote:Yes, and that’s a great comparison because 9/11 was another case where the president knew exactly what was going to happen and spent the six prior weeks golfing, saying the towers will only have a few broken windows and bitching about his enemies.
Oh that didn’t happen leading up to 9/11? Shit.
You sound like a conspiracy theorist. You are the same person as the people who are gathering in droves and shouting about tyranny.
This conversation was going smoothly until you tapped into that part of your brain where you refuse to give credit where it's due and shift blame from the parties responsible to the one person you
wish was responsible.
Gross. I'm going to bed.
I’m a conspiracy theorist for noting that Trump did nothing for six weeks, something every person who isn’t a delusional Trump cultist has pointed out? You keep missing badly here and you can’t defend Trump even a little bit. But you also can’t break free from the cult, so your only choice is to make desperate reaches like comparing me to lunatics. You have absolutely nothing here and you know it.
Re: Random Political Comments
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 4:58 am
by Headhunter
showa58taro wrote:Even now, in April, he’s not engaging with key challenges and looking for safe ways to wash his hands. It’s very transparent.
The governors are figuring it out while Trump stumbles from one narrative to another on an almost daily basis.
Re: Random Political Comments
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 5:03 am
by Headhunter
Also I did give Trump credit by saying the China ban was somewhat helpful. I’m sorry if I didn’t exaggerate its usefulness into the most effective act of heroism in presidential history. What else am I supposed to give him credit for beyond that? Fucking Melania? Watching Tiger King? Playing a sweet round of golf? Saying the virus will disappear? Once again empowering his dipshit jack-of-no-trades failure-of-all son in law? Holding rallies? Whining about Nancy Pelosi? Which of these things am I unfairly denying him credit for, do tell.