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Re: Kavanaugh Debacle
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 6:08 pm
by Tiggnutz
Looks like there is going to be an FBI investigation and I'm cool with that but prepare for the onslaught of he said she said cases that will all of a sudden pop up to try and muddy the water but if credible proof comes out so be it.
Re: Kavanaugh Debacle
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 6:09 pm
by showa58taro
Tiggnutz wrote:Looks like there is going to be an FBI investigation and I'm cool with that but prepare for the onslaught of he said she said cases that will all of a sudden pop up to try and muddy the water but if credible proof comes out so be it.
Bigger piece is that Mark Judge has agreed to cooperate on the condition of confidentiality.
Re: Kavanaugh Debacle
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 6:45 pm
by Foo
Watch how Blasey Ford suddenly will be less than cooperative with the FBI. Be curious if any Republicans will have the balls to say it when it happens.
When they start to ask for medical records and it is a lifetime of anti-depressants, anti-anxiety meds, and some pain killers in the mix. When they ask for the therapy documents she could not remember if she shared with the newspaper reporter. When they dig into her social media.
Remember, same woman who couldn't fly on an airplane and wouldn't be interviewed in California privately...
Re: Kavanaugh Debacle
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 6:48 pm
by zombie
Foo wrote:Watch how Blasey Ford suddenly will be less than cooperative with the FBI. Be curious if any Republicans will have the balls to say it when it happens.
When they start to ask for medical records and it is a lifetime of anti-depressants, anti-anxiety meds, and some pain killers in the mix. When they ask for the therapy documents she could not remember if she shared with the newspaper reporter. When they dig into her social media.
Remember, same woman who couldn't fly on an airplane and wouldn't be interviewed in California privately...
i understand questioning her story. but what does anti-depressants and anti-anxiety meds have to do with anything about this?
Re: Kavanaugh Debacle
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:01 pm
by showa58taro
Because they can’t defend Kavanaugh after his shitshow, they have to try and tear down Dr Ford with totally unsubstantiated falsehoods and guesses to undermine her character, despite the heart wrenching testimony she surrendered in a hostile environment.
Re: Kavanaugh Debacle
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:06 pm
by Foo
zombie wrote:Foo wrote:Watch how Blasey Ford suddenly will be less than cooperative with the FBI. Be curious if any Republicans will have the balls to say it when it happens.
When they start to ask for medical records and it is a lifetime of anti-depressants, anti-anxiety meds, and some pain killers in the mix. When they ask for the therapy documents she could not remember if she shared with the newspaper reporter. When they dig into her social media.
Remember, same woman who couldn't fly on an airplane and wouldn't be interviewed in California privately...
i understand questioning her story. but what does anti-depressants and anti-anxiety meds have to do with anything about this?
They are all known to effect memory. Memory and emotion are intertwined. Taking substances to dull emotions often significantly impacts memory.
She may have interacted once with a man who has been a public figure since 2000. He was a known name in political circles for the last 18 years. Perhaps in her mind, something did happen to this lady, and over the years, it became the most famous person it was plausible she could know.
Based on every witness she has cited, including a friend of hers, saying they were not there, and other people coming forward and admitting they may be the ones she is confusing Kavanaugh with, you have to consider faulty memory, confusion, etc.
Remember, just yesterday she could not even remember if she shared the confidential notes of her therapy with a prominent national newspaper withing the last few weeks. That seems like something you would recall quite easily.
Re: Kavanaugh Debacle
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:07 pm
by Foo
showa58taro wrote:Because they can’t defend Kavanaugh after his shitshow, they have to try and tear down Dr Ford with totally unsubstantiated falsehoods and guesses to undermine her character, despite the heart wrenching testimony she surrendered in a hostile environment.
Two questions:
1. Have you ever been falsely accused?
2. How did it make you feel?
Re: Kavanaugh Debacle
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:11 pm
by showa58taro
Foo wrote:showa58taro wrote:Because they can’t defend Kavanaugh after his shitshow, they have to try and tear down Dr Ford with totally unsubstantiated falsehoods and guesses to undermine her character, despite the heart wrenching testimony she surrendered in a hostile environment.
Two questions:
1. Have you ever been falsely accused?
2. How did it make you feel?
1. Yes
2. Determined to learn from it.
I mean not that this is relevant since Kavanaugh was not falsely accused, he was just revealed to be a drunk who doesn’t respect women when intoxivated, a liar, and s man with an incredible bias against the left. Why should he be on a court that judges things for all of America when he visibly hates and disrespects half of it b
Re: Kavanaugh Debacle
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:12 pm
by Jason
showa58taro wrote:Don’t buy his bullshit Z. His anecdotes are worthless.
Check out this woman getting raped while filming.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RzA4dCT4X0I
Re: Kavanaugh Debacle
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:13 pm
by Jason
Re: Kavanaugh Debacle
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:14 pm
by zombie
Foo wrote:
They are all known to effect memory. Memory and emotion are intertwined. Taking substances to dull emotions often significantly impacts memory.
She may have interacted once with a man who has been a public figure since 2000. He was a known name in political circles for the last 18 years. Perhaps in her mind, something did happen to this lady, and over the years, it became the most famous person it was plausible she could know.
Based on every witness she has cited, including a friend of hers, saying they were not there, and other people coming forward and admitting they may be the ones she is confusing Kavanaugh with, you have to consider faulty memory, confusion, etc.
Remember, just yesterday she could not even remember if she shared the confidential notes of her therapy with a prominent national newspaper withing the last few weeks. That seems like something you would recall quite easily.
faulty memory could certainly be an issue. the friends not remembering being there, could be easily explained though, unless they were witness actually to what was done to her.
Re: Kavanaugh Debacle
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:15 pm
by Jason
zombie wrote:Jason wrote:Foo wrote:So yeah, let's make Kavanaugh out to be evil because he is a conservative, stop hiding behind other reasons.
Liberalism: the dishonest way of living. People make up their own reasons about someone with different =ideologies and convince themselves that it's the truth.
this post...
This woman convinced herself she was sexually assaulted by a man she was harassing...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RzA4dCT4X0I
Re: Kavanaugh Debacle
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:17 pm
by zombie
Jason wrote:zombie wrote:Jason wrote:Foo wrote:So yeah, let's make Kavanaugh out to be evil because he is a conservative, stop hiding behind other reasons.
Liberalism: the dishonest way of living. People make up their own reasons about someone with different =ideologies and convince themselves that it's the truth.
this post...
This woman convinced herself she was sexually assaulted by a man she was harassing...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RzA4dCT4X0I
was foo asking ford to stop hiding behind other reasons, or was he asking us on hmf? context matters.
Re: Kavanaugh Debacle
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:17 pm
by Foo
showa58taro wrote:Foo wrote:showa58taro wrote:Because they can’t defend Kavanaugh after his shitshow, they have to try and tear down Dr Ford with totally unsubstantiated falsehoods and guesses to undermine her character, despite the heart wrenching testimony she surrendered in a hostile environment.
Two questions:
1. Have you ever been falsely accused?
2. How did it make you feel?
1. Yes
2. Determined to learn from it.
I mean not that this is relevant since Kavanaugh was not falsely accused, he was just revealed to be a drunk who doesn’t respect women when intoxivated, a liar, and s man with an incredible bias against the left. Why should he be on a court that judges things for all of America when he visibly hates and disrespects half of it b
US Senators were calling him evil. I am glad he stood up for himself. I would have brought up Cory Booker's admission that Cory sexually assaulted a 15 year old if he said that to me.
And you are jumping to some pretty wild conclusions when lots of people who have been around him for a long time are saying the opposite.
Re: Kavanaugh Debacle
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:17 pm
by showa58taro
No, I’m good. I’m sure you will enjoy rewatching itvenough for the both of us
Re: Kavanaugh Debacle
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:21 pm
by showa58taro
Foo wrote:showa58taro wrote:Foo wrote:showa58taro wrote:Because they can’t defend Kavanaugh after his shitshow, they have to try and tear down Dr Ford with totally unsubstantiated falsehoods and guesses to undermine her character, despite the heart wrenching testimony she surrendered in a hostile environment.
Two questions:
1. Have you ever been falsely accused?
2. How did it make you feel?
1. Yes
2. Determined to learn from it.
I mean not that this is relevant since Kavanaugh was not falsely accused, he was just revealed to be a drunk who doesn’t respect women when intoxivated, a liar, and s man with an incredible bias against the left. Why should he be on a court that judges things for all of America when he visibly hates and disrespects half of it b
US Senators were calling him evil. I am glad he stood up for himself. I would have brought up Cory Booker's admission that Cory sexually assaulted a 15 year old if he said that to me.
And you are jumping to some pretty wild conclusions when lots of people who have been around him for a long time are saying the opposite.
He is evil. You sexually assault women, there isn’t a grey zone of decency. That’s the thing that seems to get lost. You can know someone as good or decent or even a close friend and yet they can be guilty of terrible things that come to light suddenly. Doesn’t invalidate that they have done good things, neither does doing good make them immune to criticism of the bad.
And no, it’s not jumping to conclusions, he was chosen for being hyper-partisan and right wing and his behavior prived thatb
Re: Kavanaugh Debacle
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:22 pm
by Foo
zombie wrote:Foo wrote:
They are all known to effect memory. Memory and emotion are intertwined. Taking substances to dull emotions often significantly impacts memory.
She may have interacted once with a man who has been a public figure since 2000. He was a known name in political circles for the last 18 years. Perhaps in her mind, something did happen to this lady, and over the years, it became the most famous person it was plausible she could know.
Based on every witness she has cited, including a friend of hers, saying they were not there, and other people coming forward and admitting they may be the ones she is confusing Kavanaugh with, you have to consider faulty memory, confusion, etc.
Remember, just yesterday she could not even remember if she shared the confidential notes of her therapy with a prominent national newspaper withing the last few weeks. That seems like something you would recall quite easily.
faulty memory could certainly be an issue. the friends not remembering being there, could be easily explained though, unless they were witness actually to what was done to her.
Right, so that is why her history of medications become relevant in an investigation like this. Literally the only thing this entire thing hinges on is her perfect memory of the incident. An incident where she does not know where she was, all her witnesses say thhey were not there, and she can't explain how she got home.
Ever been abandoned in a strange place miles away with no phone, not knowing where you are, etc? Pretty traumatic, right? Might you recall what happened that enabled you to get home?
Re: Kavanaugh Debacle
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:23 pm
by Jason
showa58taro wrote:
No, I’m good. I’m sure you will enjoy rewatching itvenough for the both of us
Ok. Pipe down then, if you're not going to engage im conversation.
You know I have a valid point and you're doing that liberal thing where you convince yourself that I'm a bullshit artist. I just shared a personal story that you're throwing out the window because you're sticking to a narrative that you've been spoon fed by a bunch of dishonest clowns,
Re: Kavanaugh Debacle
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:24 pm
by Jason
Re: Kavanaugh Debacle
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:25 pm
by showa58taro
Jason wrote:showa58taro wrote:
No, I’m good. I’m sure you will enjoy rewatching itvenough for the both of us
Ok. Pipe down then, if you're not going to engage im conversation.
You know I have a valid point and you're doing that liberal thing where you convince yourself that I'm a bullshit artist. I just shared a personal story that you're throwing out the window because you're sticking to a narrative that you've been spoon fed by a bunch of dishonest clowns,
It’s not valid. You have literally nothing of importance to say here since your take is that unless nobody can lie about it, then everyone should be assumed to be liars. So fuck off woth YouTube videos and stupid anecdotes.