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zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:Also, the Oscars have totally ruined their brand with bias anyway. Now that folks understand that certain films and individuals are excluded from nominations based on factors outside of the work itself, the whole thing feels pretty hollow.

folks hold their opinions in such high regard that awards shows better reflect that or else they're just bias and irrelevant garbage.

I never minded artsy fartsy stuff winning that I would never watch. I felt the process still had credibility. I can appreciate things I do not like.

Holding a phony awards competition has little value. It is not "Best Picture" any more. It is "Best Picture that meets several criteria that we do not disclose from a limited field".

if they pander or sacrifice their values for an agenda, or for viewership, then that's phony. i can agree to that. which artsy fartsy films that you'll never watch should be up for best picture?

Reign in Blood wrote:J-Mac, I wish you didn't tie yourself to those dirty libs, because you're getting it!

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:Also, the Oscars have totally ruined their brand with bias anyway. Now that folks understand that certain films and individuals are excluded from nominations based on factors outside of the work itself, the whole thing feels pretty hollow.

folks hold their opinions in such high regard that awards shows better reflect that or else they're just bias and irrelevant garbage.

I never minded artsy fartsy stuff winning that I would never watch. I felt the process still had credibility. I can appreciate things I do not like.

Holding a phony awards competition has little value. It is not "Best Picture" any more. It is "Best Picture that meets several criteria that we do not disclose from a limited field".

if they pander or sacrifice their values for an agenda, or for viewership, then that's phony. i can agree to that. which artsy fartsy films that you'll never watch should be up for best picture?

Something like Anomalisa from a couple years ago. Both daring in terms of concept and well received, but of no interest to me.

At one point, you had to go half retard to get a best actor nomination, now the ticket is gays and black liberation. Kinda paint by numbers.

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:Also, the Oscars have totally ruined their brand with bias anyway. Now that folks understand that certain films and individuals are excluded from nominations based on factors outside of the work itself, the whole thing feels pretty hollow.

folks hold their opinions in such high regard that awards shows better reflect that or else they're just bias and irrelevant garbage.

I never minded artsy fartsy stuff winning that I would never watch. I felt the process still had credibility. I can appreciate things I do not like.

Holding a phony awards competition has little value. It is not "Best Picture" any more. It is "Best Picture that meets several criteria that we do not disclose from a limited field".

Best animated is like kissing your sister.
if they pander or sacrifice their values for an agenda, or for viewership, then that's phony. i can agree to that. which artsy fartsy films that you'll never watch should be up for best picture?

Something like Anomalisa from a couple years ago. Both daring in terms of concept and well received, but of no interest to me.

At one point, you had to go half retard to get a best actor nomination, now the ticket is gays and black liberation. Kinda paint by numbers.

anomalisa was nominated for best animated, that year, so well done for the oscars, then.

i get the criticism and stereotypes around the oscars. that's been for a long time, like as long as i've been paying any attention at all.

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote: EVERYONE needs to rally around freedom of thought and expression.

/thread

showa58taro wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote: EVERYONE needs to rally around freedom of thought and expression.

/thread

Except if they are liberal expression (of outrage) apparently.

Reign in Blood wrote:J-Mac, I wish you didn't tie yourself to those dirty libs, because you're getting it!

Jmac Attack wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote: EVERYONE needs to rally around freedom of thought and expression.

/thread

Except if they are liberal expression (of outrage) apparently.

Nah man. Have you ever said something offensive? And if so, should it ruin your career? Think about it.

showa58taro wrote:

Jmac Attack wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote: EVERYONE needs to rally around freedom of thought and expression.

/thread

Except if they are liberal expression (of outrage) apparently.

Nah man. Have you ever said something offensive? And if so, should it ruin your career? Think about it.

You can and should be held to account for your words, yes. That’s a thing. I’m certain I said something offensive repeatedly and I’d like to think I don’t say those things now, and that counts for something. But if it doesn’t count for anything and the employer or prospective employer draws that consclusion then you’ve witnessed freedom of expression in action. Your constitutional amendment relates solely to the law and the actions of the government. Not a private company or citizen. Kevin Hart would rock the Oscars, but it’s not his right to do so. They’re setting a standard and then sticking to it. Seems fair.

Jmac Attack wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

Jmac Attack wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote: EVERYONE needs to rally around freedom of thought and expression.

/thread

Except if they are liberal expression (of outrage) apparently.

Nah man. Have you ever said something offensive? And if so, should it ruin your career? Think about it.

You can and should be held to account for your words, yes. That’s a thing. I’m certain I said something offensive repeatedly and I’d like to think I don’t say those things now, and that counts for something. But if it doesn’t count for anything and the employer or prospective employer draws that consclusion then you’ve witnessed freedom of expression in action. Your constitutional amendment relates solely to the law and the actions of the government. Not a private company or citizen. Kevin Hart would rock the Oscars, but it’s not his right to do so. They’re setting a standard and then sticking to it. Seems fair.

I get what you're saying. However, what do ya do if you are Kevin Hart? He did apologize. I saw a video of him, in bed, and he gave a good explanation. What more do we want from him? I guess I can forgive a man for being wrong. He seemed sincere.

Jason wrote:His career is ovah!

showa58taro wrote:Kyler Murray is now in the firing line.

showa58taro wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote: EVERYONE needs to rally around freedom of thought and expression.

/thread

Except if they are liberal expression (of outrage) apparently.

Jmac Attack wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

Jmac Attack wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote: EVERYONE needs to rally around freedom of thought and expression.

/thread

Except if they are liberal expression (of outrage) apparently.

Nah man. Have you ever said something offensive? And if so, should it ruin your career? Think about it.

You can and should be held to account for your words, yes. That’s a thing. I’m certain I said something offensive repeatedly and I’d like to think I don’t say those things now, and that counts for something. But if it doesn’t count for anything and the employer or prospective employer draws that consclusion then you’ve witnessed freedom of expression in action. Your constitutional amendment relates solely to the law and the actions of the government. Not a private company or citizen. Kevin Hart would rock the Oscars, but it’s not his right to do so. They’re setting a standard and then sticking to it. Seems fair.

I get what you're saying. However, what do ya do if you are Kevin Hart? He did apologize. I saw a video of him, in bed, and he gave a good explanation. What more do we want from him? I guess I can forgive a man for being wrong. He seemed sincere.