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Foo wrote:
Jigsaw wrote:
Foo wrote:
showa58taro wrote:
Foo wrote:
showa58taro wrote:I was trying to work out the story and if it was just hyperbole like the “missing kids” thing that was innocuous and underwhelming. But it increasingly seems the new thing about taking kids from parents is true. What a shitty policy. Just evil for evils sake.
It's almost like people should not involve children in the committing of crimes or something.
No. Just no. If you can’t see ripping children from their parents as evil then you have already lost any ground to stand on.
Dad robs a bank with child in tow. You have a problem with them taking the child to a safe place while dad's crimes are dealt with?
Robbing a bank is apparently equivalent with crossing the border without paper. A crime's a crime. If someone jaywalks, might as well hang them. Love that conservative simplicity. :lol:
Ever travel outside of the country? Do you know the amount of premeditation it takes to unlawfully occupy a country? And yeah, it is stealing. It is stealing from our society.
When you have legal immigration means and you skirt it it's no different from cheating in line and nobody likes that
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Tiggnutz wrote:
Foo wrote:
Jigsaw wrote:
Foo wrote:
showa58taro wrote:
Foo wrote:
showa58taro wrote:I was trying to work out the story and if it was just hyperbole like the “missing kids” thing that was innocuous and underwhelming. But it increasingly seems the new thing about taking kids from parents is true. What a shitty policy. Just evil for evils sake.
It's almost like people should not involve children in the committing of crimes or something.
No. Just no. If you can’t see ripping children from their parents as evil then you have already lost any ground to stand on.
Dad robs a bank with child in tow. You have a problem with them taking the child to a safe place while dad's crimes are dealt with?
Robbing a bank is apparently equivalent with crossing the border without paper. A crime's a crime. If someone jaywalks, might as well hang them. Love that conservative simplicity. :lol:
Ever travel outside of the country? Do you know the amount of premeditation it takes to unlawfully occupy a country? And yeah, it is stealing. It is stealing from our society.
When you have legal immigration means and you skirt it it's no different from cheating in line and nobody likes that
Fiance and I have been waiting for a year and still have neither a date nor an answer. I have zero respect for those who cut the line.
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And I have been temporarily detained in Panama and not allowed to travel into Venezuela and she has been detained in Curacao (for hours), in efforts to simply visit each other. She cannot come here as a tourist. So yeah, there is a process and that is hardly unique to the US.
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Foo wrote:And I have been temporarily detained in Panama and not allowed to travel into Venezuela and she has been detained in Curacao (for hours), in efforts to simply visit each other. She cannot come here as a tourist. So yeah, there is a process and that is hardly unique to the US.
Its a shame that absolutely nobody but those dealing with it care about legal immigration
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Tiggnutz wrote:
Foo wrote:And I have been temporarily detained in Panama and not allowed to travel into Venezuela and she has been detained in Curacao (for hours), in efforts to simply visit each other. She cannot come here as a tourist. So yeah, there is a process and that is hardly unique to the US.
Its a shame that absolutely nobody but those dealing with it care about legal immigration
Well, my fiance:

- is a dentist
- speaks perfect english
- brings no children or other societal burdens with her
- is coming to a household that can support her
- follows the laws
- is from a dangerous place where she is not safe

So yeah, the priority is clearly protecting people who are going to be burdens to our society and come here illegally. Makes perfect sense, just like most liberal priorities.
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And yes, we will spend thousands on attorney fees. Those who sneak across often get free legal help when they are caught.
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Foo wrote:
Tiggnutz wrote:
Foo wrote:And I have been temporarily detained in Panama and not allowed to travel into Venezuela and she has been detained in Curacao (for hours), in efforts to simply visit each other. She cannot come here as a tourist. So yeah, there is a process and that is hardly unique to the US.
Its a shame that absolutely nobody but those dealing with it care about legal immigration
Well, my fiance:

- is a dentist
- speaks perfect english
- brings no children or other societal burdens with her
- is coming to a household that can support her
- follows the laws
- is from a dangerous place where she is not safe

So yeah, the priority is clearly protecting people who are going to be burdens to our society and come here illegally. Makes perfect sense, just like most liberal priorities.
liberals make burdens for their own country, and expect that country to fix the mess they make. conservatives make burdens for other countries and expect those countries to fix the mess they make. take your pick as to how you want to be a burden... you know, since we're making blanking judgments and blanket blame.
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Jigsaw wrote:
Jason wrote:
Jigsaw wrote:What's the plan, then, Jason? Live off money you've managed to save?
Yeah. But that isn't gonna last fuckin long at all.
Well, if you ever need a little help, I'm always happy to send something your way if you ever need it. I know I can't do much, but if you ever need help, I'll do what I can.
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Jason wrote:
Jigsaw wrote:
Jason wrote:
Jigsaw wrote:What's the plan, then, Jason? Live off money you've managed to save?
Yeah. But that isn't gonna last fuckin long at all.
Well, if you ever need a little help, I'm always happy to send something your way if you ever need it. I know I can't do much, but if you ever need help, I'll do what I can.
All I want you to do for me is open your heart to patriotism. When you open your heart to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice.
if only. :P
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zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
Tiggnutz wrote:
Foo wrote:And I have been temporarily detained in Panama and not allowed to travel into Venezuela and she has been detained in Curacao (for hours), in efforts to simply visit each other. She cannot come here as a tourist. So yeah, there is a process and that is hardly unique to the US.
Its a shame that absolutely nobody but those dealing with it care about legal immigration
Well, my fiance:

- is a dentist
- speaks perfect english
- brings no children or other societal burdens with her
- is coming to a household that can support her
- follows the laws
- is from a dangerous place where she is not safe

So yeah, the priority is clearly protecting people who are going to be burdens to our society and come here illegally. Makes perfect sense, just like most liberal priorities.
liberals make burdens for their own country, and expect that country to fix the mess they make. conservatives make burdens for other countries and expect those countries to fix the mess they make. take your pick as to how you want to be a burden... you know, since we're making blanking judgments and blanket blame.
If everything you just stated is true, isn't it kind of a no brainer that you would rather have a mess elsewhere rather than where you live?
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I am likely going to have to consider a different career path for whatever time I have left. I can't have an episode once a year and miss three months of work because I have a commercial license.
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Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
Tiggnutz wrote:
Foo wrote:And I have been temporarily detained in Panama and not allowed to travel into Venezuela and she has been detained in Curacao (for hours), in efforts to simply visit each other. She cannot come here as a tourist. So yeah, there is a process and that is hardly unique to the US.
Its a shame that absolutely nobody but those dealing with it care about legal immigration
Well, my fiance:

- is a dentist
- speaks perfect english
- brings no children or other societal burdens with her
- is coming to a household that can support her
- follows the laws
- is from a dangerous place where she is not safe

So yeah, the priority is clearly protecting people who are going to be burdens to our society and come here illegally. Makes perfect sense, just like most liberal priorities.
liberals make burdens for their own country, and expect that country to fix the mess they make. conservatives make burdens for other countries and expect those countries to fix the mess they make. take your pick as to how you want to be a burden... you know, since we're making blanking judgments and blanket blame.
If everything you just stated is true, isn't it kind of a no brainer that you would rather have a mess elsewhere rather than where you live?

what i stated is as true as what you did. and yeah, i guess it's a no brainer. just don't pretend that conservatives are innocent and pure.
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Jason wrote:I am likely going to have to consider a different career path for whatever time I have left. I can't have an episode once a year and miss three months of work because I have a commercial license.
i think it would really do you a lot of good if you can find another profession.
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Jason wrote:I am likely going to have to consider a different career path for whatever time I have left. I can't have an episode once a year and miss three months of work because I have a commercial license.
True. CDL is limiting. Gotta find a way to work with your mind, sir.
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I was a pretty solid athlete when I was younger. I bowed out early because I didn't want to be "that guy" in his 30s with no future to fall back on in case it didn't work out The irony is stunning, because I ended up being "that guy" since my safety profession ended up doing exactly what my pursuit of an athletic profession didn't do.
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I want to feel some sort of self-worth in a profession I choose. I can find that in being an athlete, but it's far too late now. I would join the Special Forces, but I am 30 and single, and I think the lack of a companion is starting to take a toll on me. I can't be overseas and doing that if I want to be with someone. My head will not be fully in the military. They probably won't have me anyway once they find out I have this weird blood issue. So what if I find a great woman? My career is still in shambles and there is hardly anything I can think of that generates any feeling of self-worth.

It's a shitty predicament.
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Jason wrote:I want to feel some sort of self-worth in a profession I choose. I can find that in being an athlete, but it's far too late now. I would join the Special Forces, but I am 30 and single, and I think the lack of a companion is starting to take a toll on me. I can't be overseas and doing that if I want to be with someone. My head will not be fully in the military. They probably won't have me anyway once they find out I have this weird blood issue. So what if I find a great woman? My career is still in shambles and there is hardly anything I can think of that generates any feeling of self-worth.

It's a shitty predicament.
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Jason wrote:I want to feel some sort of self-worth in a profession I choose. I can find that in being an athlete, but it's far too late now. I would join the Special Forces, but I am 30 and single, and I think the lack of a companion is starting to take a toll on me. I can't be overseas and doing that if I want to be with someone. My head will not be fully in the military. They probably won't have me anyway once they find out I have this weird blood issue. So what if I find a great woman? My career is still in shambles and there is hardly anything I can think of that generates any feeling of self-worth.

It's a shitty predicament.
Mhmm. If I was even sticking with art, which sometimes I wish I didn't, I at least wish I applied to the Joe Kubert School of Art instead of the one I did go to. At least then, it's specifically aimed at comic book art, rather than teaching me to be a pretentious knob, which didn't go well for some of the teachers.
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Foo wrote:
Tiggnutz wrote:
Foo wrote:And I have been temporarily detained in Panama and not allowed to travel into Venezuela and she has been detained in Curacao (for hours), in efforts to simply visit each other. She cannot come here as a tourist. So yeah, there is a process and that is hardly unique to the US.
Its a shame that absolutely nobody but those dealing with it care about legal immigration
Well, my fiance:

- is a dentist
- speaks perfect english
- brings no children or other societal burdens with her
- is coming to a household that can support her
- follows the laws
- is from a dangerous place where she is not safe

So yeah, the priority is clearly protecting people who are going to be burdens to our society and come here illegally. Makes perfect sense, just like most liberal priorities.
If she did have a kid, would you feel differently? And what if her English wasn't the best? You obviously love her, and I do wish you guys success. Finding a good woman (or man for the females) is hard these days!
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Foo wrote:
Jason wrote:I want to feel some sort of self-worth in a profession I choose. I can find that in being an athlete, but it's far too late now. I would join the Special Forces, but I am 30 and single, and I think the lack of a companion is starting to take a toll on me. I can't be overseas and doing that if I want to be with someone. My head will not be fully in the military. They probably won't have me anyway once they find out I have this weird blood issue. So what if I find a great woman? My career is still in shambles and there is hardly anything I can think of that generates any feeling of self-worth.

It's a shitty predicament.
Any work is noble work. Society needs all kinds to function.
Truth, Jason.
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