July 10th 2018

[Jason]

Should I start taking the anti-depressant?

You know how I feel about that shit. If you feel it is a last resort and are willing to accept a lifetime of it and the side effects, you may not have a choice, however.

It's a predicament. I don't want to take it, but my head is all over the place at random hours of the day, every day. My brain will start panicking and I'll get panic attacks out of nowhere. I'm not suicidal, I just feel like I could die at any moment. Which seems to be a real possibility.

Want to PM me what it is and I can give you my opinion on it?

I'm with Foo, unless you're feeling so hopeless that suicide is an actual concern, I don't recommend looking to medication as a fix for general depression, there are better methods to combat down moods and feelings of hopelessness. About the only exception to that is looking at it as a temporary crutch to keep you functioning from day to day while you seek out those other treatment methods.

PM you what what is? Not sure what you mean. I thought I laid it all out there. Lol

[Dream]

Should I start taking the anti-depressant?

you should try to see if it works for you, but take it slowly and see how it affects you and don't just rush into it for the sake of wanting to just feel better right now.

The issue with this is I have to take the pill once a day, every day, for it to work. I can't just stop taking it, I need to be weaned off of it. Also, it takes like two months for it to take full effect.

yeah, you'll probably need to be weaned off of it. but you have options and choices. it's not the lifetime commitment that foo wants you to think. it's not take this one and you'll have to take it forever whether it works or not. but if you think the risk is not worth the chance. then don't take it.

I think he's saying I'll have to live with the side effects for the rest of my life.

potentially. like i said, if you feel like it's not worth the risk. don't take it. i personally don't want to do that, myself. i feel like shit about myself most the time. i feel like i'm scum. but from second hand experience, it's better than not caring about anyone or anything else along with just feeling less shitty about myself. to me, that's not worth it. and as far as i know that's something that comes along with most anti-depressants. it's up to you whether you feel like not feeling like you're crap all the time is worth whatever risks and side effects come along with it.

That hasn't been my experience with either anti-depressant I've taken. I didn't stop caring about anyone, I just didn't feel like a constant barrage of thoughts and emotions were coming at me all at the same time. It made it easier to feel emotions in a less overwhelming way.

[Dream]

Should I start taking the anti-depressant?

You know how I feel about that shit. If you feel it is a last resort and are willing to accept a lifetime of it and the side effects, you may not have a choice, however.

It's a predicament. I don't want to take it, but my head is all over the place at random hours of the day, every day. My brain will start panicking and I'll get panic attacks out of nowhere. I'm not suicidal, I just feel like I could die at any moment. Which seems to be a real possibility.

Want to PM me what it is and I can give you my opinion on it?

I'm with Foo, unless you're feeling so hopeless that suicide is an actual concern, I don't recommend looking to medication as a fix for general depression, there are better methods to combat down moods and feelings of hopelessness. About the only exception to that is looking at it as a temporary crutch to keep you functioning from day to day while you seek out those other treatment methods.

PM you what what is? Not sure what you mean. I thought I laid it all out there. Lol

The name of the antidepressant you are considering taking?

[Jason]

Should I start taking the anti-depressant?

you should try to see if it works for you, but take it slowly and see how it affects you and don't just rush into it for the sake of wanting to just feel better right now.

The issue with this is I have to take the pill once a day, every day, for it to work. I can't just stop taking it, I need to be weaned off of it. Also, it takes like two months for it to take full effect.

yeah, you'll probably need to be weaned off of it. but you have options and choices. it's not the lifetime commitment that foo wants you to think. it's not take this one and you'll have to take it forever whether it works or not. but if you think the risk is not worth the chance. then don't take it.

I think he's saying I'll have to live with the side effects for the rest of my life.

The side effects of one pill went away when I started a different one. It took a couple of months to go away completely, but they did go away once the med was out of my system.

Foo also kinda touched base on the point in his previous post. If the pills work, will it have actually cured the depression? Or will I have to stay on them for life if I don't want to go back down to the low I'm feeling now. Might even feel lower once they're all back out of my system. A lot of variables at play. And variables are scary with medication.

[Jason]

Should I start taking the anti-depressant?

You know how I feel about that shit. If you feel it is a last resort and are willing to accept a lifetime of it and the side effects, you may not have a choice, however.

It's a predicament. I don't want to take it, but my head is all over the place at random hours of the day, every day. My brain will start panicking and I'll get panic attacks out of nowhere. I'm not suicidal, I just feel like I could die at any moment. Which seems to be a real possibility.

Want to PM me what it is and I can give you my opinion on it?

I'm with Foo, unless you're feeling so hopeless that suicide is an actual concern, I don't recommend looking to medication as a fix for general depression, there are better methods to combat down moods and feelings of hopelessness. About the only exception to that is looking at it as a temporary crutch to keep you functioning from day to day while you seek out those other treatment methods.

PM you what what is? Not sure what you mean. I thought I laid it all out there. Lol

The name of the antidepressant you are considering taking?

Oh. They prescribed me Celexa. I mentioned it in a random chat a couple weeks ago somewhere.

J-Mac said all it did for him was make him not want sex. Lol

[Dream]

Should I start taking the anti-depressant?

you should try to see if it works for you, but take it slowly and see how it affects you and don't just rush into it for the sake of wanting to just feel better right now.

The issue with this is I have to take the pill once a day, every day, for it to work. I can't just stop taking it, I need to be weaned off of it. Also, it takes like two months for it to take full effect.

yeah, you'll probably need to be weaned off of it. but you have options and choices. it's not the lifetime commitment that foo wants you to think. it's not take this one and you'll have to take it forever whether it works or not. but if you think the risk is not worth the chance. then don't take it.

I think he's saying I'll have to live with the side effects for the rest of my life.

I am saying it begins an endless cycle of relying on chemicals to deal with your mood. Let's look at some scenarios:

- the pills work! Oh happy day, now you are on this drug forever. Always wondering if you have beaten the depression and you can stop or if stopping will turn you into a super depressed and possible total psychotic suicidal murderer. Also to fill up the depressed valleys, the high mountains are leveled.

- the pills don't work. You have ingested lots of chemicals that are fucking with your brain. Coming off then is dangerous still. The next solution will also be sought, which is also going to be more pills.

- the pills kinda work. This is the most common. They will mess with the dosage, add more drugs to he mix, etc. more pills to soften your crunchy poo and make your dick hard. More pills, more pills, all doing far more than just making you happy.


Again, this would be a last resort for me. I would think really hard about the pills or some guy with a drill and a brain map giving me a partial lobotomy to take out the bad stuff. To me, that stuff is slightly more controlled heroin. It is rare for people to ever get off the stuff and live a happy life.

You may be there. I hope not but I don't know. i think we all go through times where we question everything. I think for a variety of reasons you see hopelessness, but just a small twist of fate can change it all for the better.

That has kind of been my experience. The pill aren't a cure-all, they are a crutch to keep me stable while I deal with shit so I can function on a day to day basis. I can actually get out of bed and do stuff when I want to instead of only when I have to. I haven't had any other meds added because of being on the anti-depressant. But that's not to say that's the case for everyone, it just hasn't been my experience.

[Jason]

I'd rather not have ruined the chat with this medical crap. On one hand I'd rather just have one thread to post it all in. But on the other hand, I don't want to dedicate an entire thread to this nonsense.

But on the other hand again, this thread could've gone into a three page epic about Joe Bob Briggs. Instead I swoop in with a Stone Cold stunner and change the entire dynamic of it. :p

[Dream]

Should I start taking the anti-depressant?

You know how I feel about that shit. If you feel it is a last resort and are willing to accept a lifetime of it and the side effects, you may not have a choice, however.

It's a predicament. I don't want to take it, but my head is all over the place at random hours of the day, every day. My brain will start panicking and I'll get panic attacks out of nowhere. I'm not suicidal, I just feel like I could die at any moment. Which seems to be a real possibility.

Want to PM me what it is and I can give you my opinion on it?

I'm with Foo, unless you're feeling so hopeless that suicide is an actual concern, I don't recommend looking to medication as a fix for general depression, there are better methods to combat down moods and feelings of hopelessness. About the only exception to that is looking at it as a temporary crutch to keep you functioning from day to day while you seek out those other treatment methods.

PM you what what is? Not sure what you mean. I thought I laid it all out there. Lol

The name of the antidepressant you are considering taking?

Oh. They prescribed me Celexa. I mentioned it in a random chat a couple weeks ago somewhere.

J-Mac said all it did for him was make him not want sex. Lol

I have no experience with that, so I wouldn't be able to give you an opinion anyway. Sertraline (Zoloft) made me not want sex (even though I was on the lowest dose possible) so I went off of it and onto Buproprion (Welbutrin) and haven't noticed any side effects from it at all. I expect to start lowering my dose to come off of it by the end of the year, after I deal with the harder bits of my life in therapy.


The one thing I will say is no anti-depressant is a cure for depression. Therapy helps, but it isn't a cure either, it's more like a guided way of dealing with problems, but it's not something you can't do on your own either. Face facts, mourn and accept and the depression will lessen. It may take you years to get to that accept part and that's fine. Look up youtube videos on depression, there's a lot of information you can learn from that can help you move forward on your own. Right now you seem like you are stuck on the what ifs, but life is full of what ifs and no one has control over them. Trying to control them is where depression comes in and life kinda just stops around you, even though everything is still going for everyone else, but you get stuck in the "what's the point? If this happens its the end, if this happens I might as well give up", etc.

The only guarantee in life is death, my work has helped me accept that a lot better, therapy is helping me move past the snapshots of life that I've been stuck on, and the anti-depressants are letting me function day to day without killing myself while I do that. That's all an anti-depressant is, a crutch to help you along.

[Dream]

I'd rather not have ruined the chat with this medical crap. On one hand I'd rather just have one thread to post it all in. But on the other hand, I don't want to dedicate an entire thread to this nonsense.

But on the other hand again, this thread could've gone into a three page epic about Joe Bob Briggs. Instead I swoop in with a Stone Cold stunner and change the entire dynamic of it. :p

*shrug* Isn't that kinda the point of the DRC? it gets random, it gets deep, it gets ridiculous and it can do all of those things in a single night. Who knows, talking about it in the DRC might actually help a lurker with their own problems.

[Jason]

Yeah. Seems like depression is different in some people. It wasn't until like a year ago when I posted on here that I had a low mood and didn't enjoy things as well as I used to and the basic response was "welcome to depression", that I actually started to understand depression. I used to think it was only being sad all the time at a constabt, and feeling like everything is pointless. Didn't realize you can live so normally and still qualify for it.

I have ups, from time to time. As long as I keep getting those, I will likely stay off it and hope the medical issue resolves, or at least subsides.

[Jigsaw]

I never took anti-depressants long enough to feel any effect other than increased thought of suicidal tendencies, and stopping cold turkey was pretty harsh, so I generally don't have positive feelings towards pills.

Not that I wouldn't try others if I had the chance, of course. If it works for some, then it's worth it.

[Dream]

Yeah. Seems like depression is different in some people. It wasn't until like a year ago when I posted on here that I had a low mood and didn't enjoy things as well as I used to and the basic response was "welcome to depression", that I actually started to understand depression. I used to think it was only being sad all the time at a constabt, and feeling like everything is pointless. Didn't realize you can live so normally and still qualify for it.

I have ups, from time to time. As long as I keep getting those, I will likely stay off it and hope the medical issue resolves, or at least subsides.

That is a big misunderstanding with depression that is hard for a lot of people to understand until or unless they experience it for themselves.

My personal struggle with depression has been more about starting the day with anxiety and stress amped up to 100 and ending it at the same place (If I don't do everything perfectly during the day, it will all go to shit and I can't support myself and everything I know and love in life hinges on my performing perfectly today, so if I take even the slightest misstep it's all my fault when it goes to shit <-- which I'm starting to understand is totally bullshit, but that's how I lived my life up to this point.) I don't actually feel sad often at all. I'm more likely to feel worried, anxious, worthless, like nothing has a point to it, like every effort is made in vain, like life isn't worth living than I am to feel sad.

I'm doing better with the depression and I'm being more productive all around, but it has taken years of work to get here. I'm finally getting to a point where it actually feels beneficial to identify when people have been toxic to me in my life and being okay with cutting them out of my life. I no longer feel obligated to interact with relatives that have been nothing but shitty to me my entire life. I started living life for myself instead of because I had to make everything okay for everyone else at my own expense.

[Dream]

I never took anti-depressants long enough to feel any effect other than increased thought of suicidal tendencies, and stopping cold turkey was pretty harsh, so I generally don't have positive feelings towards pills.

Not that I wouldn't try others if I had the chance, of course. If it works for some, then it's worth it.

That is a risk and one I was aware of, at the time I started them, the risk was the same as if I stayed off of them, so it seemed worth a shot. Worst thing that would happen is I follow through on what I already wanted to do.

[zombie]

i think anti-depressants should be treated as a last resort, as an option if you feel like you've exhausted every other possibility for help. and then, also, as only a way to ease things for you, while you find a real solution.

also, if jmac has experience with the specific one you're considering, pm him about the details. how did it make him feel, beyond just no libido. was there withdrawal symptoms or anything after he got off of it. what was the weaning process like, if there was one? (your doctor said that you would need to be weaned off it, so i'm assuming) were where any kind of side effects? are you still dealing with them or no? etc.

[showa58taro]

I just hope Jason feels better in himself. However that happens is fine by me.