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The one thing all the bomb-threatened individuals have in common? Guess it’s just their rosy personalities. Lol

Foo wrote:And we must acknowledge there is zero chance a liberal reporter was obnoxiously thrusting a microphone in the guy's face and impeding his way, got bumped, then flopped all over the floor claiming it was some sort of assault. That would never, ever happen...

It’s being recorded. We have audio. Clearly not what happened.

showa58taro wrote:The one thing all the bomb-threatened individuals have in common? Guess it’s just their rosy personalities. Lol

And? Could be a crazy far leftist who hates all those globalists. Could be a false flag attack. Could be a crazy right winger. Jiggy probably hates half those people more than I do.

In any event, blame the person who committed the crime, not the person condemning it.

Foo wrote:

showa58taro wrote:The one thing all the bomb-threatened individuals have in common? Guess it’s just their rosy personalities. Lol

And? Could be a crazy far leftist who hates all those globalists. Could be a false flag attack. Could be a crazy right winger. Jiggy probably hates half those people more than I do.

In any event, blame the person who committed the crime, not the person condemning it.

The words of the President matter. When you stoke fear through lies to score political point after political point, this is the result. You can’t then concoct some crazy what’s-if scenario to make yourself feel better. The climate of fear of “libs” and talking riots and Molon Lane and all this right-wing bullshit Trump keeps selling is now on full display. Complete with death threats to his political rivals.

And that doesn’t mean he’s personally accountable by any stretch. It means the actual right wing pricks making bomb scares are very much to blame. The blame for Trump is the setting of a dangerous political climate with his lies and fear-mongering.

showa58taro wrote:

Foo wrote:

showa58taro wrote:The one thing all the bomb-threatened individuals have in common? Guess it’s just their rosy personalities. Lol

And? Could be a crazy far leftist who hates all those globalists. Could be a false flag attack. Could be a crazy right winger. Jiggy probably hates half those people more than I do.

In any event, blame the person who committed the crime, not the person condemning it.

The words of the President matter. When you stoke fear through lies to score political point after political point, this is the result. You can’t then concoct some crazy what’s-if scenario to make yourself feel better. The climate of fear of “libs” and talking riots and Molon Lane and all this right-wing bullshit Trump keeps selling is now on full display. Complete with death threats to his political rivals.

And that doesn’t mean he’s personally accountable by any stretch. It means the actual right wing pricks making bomb scares are very much to blame. The blame for Trump is the setting of a dangerous political climate with his lies and fear-mongering.

We had a guy shoot up a Republican baseball game. A guy earlier this month sending dangerous powder to republicans. We have liberals shouting at lawmakers in restaurants.

Don't blame others for the insane acts of people. That is justification and not needed.

Foo wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

Foo wrote:

showa58taro wrote:The one thing all the bomb-threatened individuals have in common? Guess it’s just their rosy personalities. Lol

And? Could be a crazy far leftist who hates all those globalists. Could be a false flag attack. Could be a crazy right winger. Jiggy probably hates half those people more than I do.

In any event, blame the person who committed the crime, not the person condemning it.

The words of the President matter. When you stoke fear through lies to score political point after political point, this is the result. You can’t then concoct some crazy what’s-if scenario to make yourself feel better. The climate of fear of “libs” and talking riots and Molon Lane and all this right-wing bullshit Trump keeps selling is now on full display. Complete with death threats to his political rivals.

And that doesn’t mean he’s personally accountable by any stretch. It means the actual right wing pricks making bomb scares are very much to blame. The blame for Trump is the setting of a dangerous political climate with his lies and fear-mongering.

We had a guy shoot up a Republican baseball game. A guy earlier this month sending dangerous powder to republicans. We have liberals shouting at lawmakers in restaurants.

Don't blame others for the insane acts of people. That is justification and not needed.

How about we do blame others for their role instead. And while we are at it let’s not equate civic engagement with politicians for actual death threats.

Foo wrote:
Use your own definition and then say when times were better.

i'm not sure which was better, but it feels like we're more divided now than anytime in our lifetimes. it could be that i'm just more aware of it. or that it's being played up more than it actually is. but that's how it feels to me. if you feel like i'm wrong, then let's have a discussion. what i don't want is a rush to win kind of argument.

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:
Use your own definition and then say when times were better.

i'm not sure which was better, but it feels like we're more divided now than anytime in our lifetimes. it could be that i'm just more aware of it. or that it's being played up more than it actually is. but that's how it feels to me. if you feel like i'm wrong, then let's have a discussion. what i don't want is a rush to win kind of argument.

I stand by my belief that no war has left us without a common enemy. Human nature is that we tend to want conflict. It is why sports and politics are so popular.

Look at how the nation was divided after the Bush v Gore election, and then united after 9/11. WW2, Korea, The Cold War, they represent our most united moments because there was a feeling we were all in it together. Foreign conflicts created shared patriotism and brotherhood.

Imagine mom and dad are fighting about the bills. Mom spends too much on groceries and dad wasted money on football tickets. Now little brother comes in the door with a black eye. All of a sudden, the family rallied around be little brother.

Basically, we will form tribes. The nation is safe, so we need the tribal conflict for purpose. Why do people protest? Because it gives them purpose, not because it is particularly effective in our society. They do it to tell their friends about it and to prove worth to their tribe.

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:
Use your own definition and then say when times were better.

i'm not sure which was better, but it feels like we're more divided now than anytime in our lifetimes. it could be that i'm just more aware of it. or that it's being played up more than it actually is. but that's how it feels to me. if you feel like i'm wrong, then let's have a discussion. what i don't want is a rush to win kind of argument.

I stand by my belief that no war has left us without a common enemy. Human nature is that we tend to want conflict. It is why sports and politics are so popular.

Look at how the nation was divided after the Bush v Gore election, and then united after 9/11. WW2, Korea, The Cold War, they represent our most united moments because there was a feeling we were all in it together. Foreign conflicts created shared patriotism and brotherhood.

Imagine mom and dad are fighting about the bills. Mom spends too much on groceries and dad wasted money on football tickets. Now little brother comes in the door with a black eye. All of a sudden, the family rallied around be little brother.

Basically, we will form tribes. The nation is safe, so we need the tribal conflict for purpose. Why do people protest? Because it gives them purpose, not because it is particularly effective in our society. They do it to tell their friends about it and to prove worth to their tribe.

maybe. i don't like it the way it's being done.

"Fake News ― Fake Bombs. Who could possibly benefit by so much fakery?"

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/lo ... 8b5880e011

because lou dobbs deserves to be called out and held accountable, just as much as jeff zucker does.

zombie wrote:"Fake News ― Fake Bombs. Who could possibly benefit by so much fakery?"

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/lo ... 8b5880e011

because lou dobbs deserves to be called out and held accountable, just as much as jeff zucker does.

The quality of the bombs is being widely speculated upon, to be fair. Explosives experts are even saying it appears like someone was trying to make something that looks like a bomb more than something intended to be one. Will be curious to see if they were viable since none exploded.

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:"Fake News ― Fake Bombs. Who could possibly benefit by so much fakery?"

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/lo ... 8b5880e011

because lou dobbs deserves to be called out and held accountable, just as much as jeff zucker does.

The quality of the bombs is being widely speculated upon, to be fair. Explosives experts are even saying it appears like someone was trying to make something that looks like a bomb more than something intended to be one. Will be curious to see if they were viable since none exploded.

well we can blame liberals, and it's okay. incitement is okay when it's not toward foo's team.

Caught the guy. See who he is now.

Bomb suspect appears to be registered Republican with a van covered in Donald Trump stickers and loves conspiracy theories.

So much for all the false flag nonsense from the right.

Dudes a wacko who clearly wanted to get caught

Tiggnutz wrote:Dudes a wacko who clearly wanted to get caught

Yup. 100% assclown. Not the point though. But the guy seemed s fucking dick. Lots of previous arrests and a history of violence including bomb threats (and not great ones) but the fact remains he didn’t get this list of people from the phone book.

showa58taro wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:Dudes a wacko who clearly wanted to get caught

Yup. 100% assclown. Not the point though. But the guy seemed s fucking dick. Lots of previous arrests and a history of violence including bomb threats (and not great ones) but the fact remains he didn’t get this list of people from the phone book.

Either did the guy who shot up the softball team or the guy who mailed ricin. Left and right are full of wackos it's not new information.

Tiggnutz wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:Dudes a wacko who clearly wanted to get caught

Yup. 100% assclown. Not the point though. But the guy seemed s fucking dick. Lots of previous arrests and a history of violence including bomb threats (and not great ones) but the fact remains he didn’t get this list of people from the phone book.

Either did the guy who shot up the softball team or mailed ricin. Left and right are full of wackos it's not new information.

But only one side keeps advocating violence. It’s not the left.

showa58taro wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:Dudes a wacko who clearly wanted to get caught

Yup. 100% assclown. Not the point though. But the guy seemed s fucking dick. Lots of previous arrests and a history of violence including bomb threats (and not great ones) but the fact remains he didn’t get this list of people from the phone book.

Either did the guy who shot up the softball team or mailed ricin. Left and right are full of wackos it's not new information.

But only one side keeps advocating violence. It’s not the left.

Its both Seb

both sides insinuate and incite and sow division. both blame and condemn the other side. both view their political opponents (and followers of those opponents) as trash. it's not a good look for anyone.