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Re: Illinois Travel ban

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:40 pm
by Jason
Headhunter wrote:Well, fuck. Turns out I can't put Jason on ignore because he's an admin. :x

Any way that can be fixed?
Yeah. Just skip over my posts, dipshit.

Re: Illinois Travel ban

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:43 pm
by zombie
Jason wrote:
zombie wrote:
Jason wrote:Liberal triggered.
upsetting someone because you're being an asshole to them counts as triggered now? i thought triggered was something inane and blown out of proportion, not a valid reaction.
Zomb to the rescue!

Yeah, it's not the first time banter has occurred in the politics board. Everyone is guilty of it. Doesn't mean you need to be Head's white knight because he got butthurt. I mean "black knight". I'm not racist!
it's also not the first time that i've tried to ease things back down, or try to be a mediator of sorts. it's not white knighting. it's just trying to keep things civil.

Re: Illinois Travel ban

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:44 pm
by Reign in Blood
Headhunter wrote:Well, fuck. Turns out I can't put Jason on ignore because he's an admin. :x

Any way that can be fixed?
Yeah, just actually ignore him.

Re: Illinois Travel ban

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:46 pm
by Headhunter
Reign in Blood wrote:
Headhunter wrote:Well, fuck. Turns out I can't put Jason on ignore because he's an admin. :x

Any way that can be fixed?
Yeah, just actually ignore him.
Well obviously, but the ignore function is much more efficient. Was just asking.

Re: Illinois Travel ban

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:47 pm
by Jason
zombie wrote:
Jason wrote:
zombie wrote:
Jason wrote:Liberal triggered.
upsetting someone because you're being an asshole to them counts as triggered now? i thought triggered was something inane and blown out of proportion, not a valid reaction.
Zomb to the rescue!

Yeah, it's not the first time banter has occurred in the politics board. Everyone is guilty of it. Doesn't mean you need to be Head's white knight because he got butthurt. I mean "black knight". I'm not racist!
it's also not the first time that i've tried to ease things back down, or try to be a mediator of sorts. it's not white knighting. it's just trying to keep things civil.
Ease what back down? Seb's own forum description is "don't click this board if you can't take the heat". And when has being the mediator ever done any good in these threads? :p

Re: Illinois Travel ban

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:52 pm
by zombie
Jason wrote:
zombie wrote:
Jason wrote:
zombie wrote:
Jason wrote:Liberal triggered.
upsetting someone because you're being an asshole to them counts as triggered now? i thought triggered was something inane and blown out of proportion, not a valid reaction.
Zomb to the rescue!

Yeah, it's not the first time banter has occurred in the politics board. Everyone is guilty of it. Doesn't mean you need to be Head's white knight because he got butthurt. I mean "black knight". I'm not racist!
it's also not the first time that i've tried to ease things back down, or try to be a mediator of sorts. it's not white knighting. it's just trying to keep things civil.
Ease what back down? Seb's own forum description is "don't click this board if you can't take the heat". And when has being the mediator ever done any good in these threads? :p
ease the tensions back down? i'm not mediating by trying to tell you what to say or not to say, but by trying to ensure that people aren't feeling attacked. it can be good for the thread and for the community as a whole.

Re: Illinois Travel ban

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:55 pm
by Headhunter
No worries Z. I don't feel attacked. He's just being annoying and thinks it's funny. I don't think it's funny. Not a big deal.

Re: Illinois Travel ban

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:57 pm
by zombie
sorry if i come across as a wetblanket or something. :P

Re: Illinois Travel ban

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 3:00 pm
by Jason
If you say dumb ass shit, I'm gonna call you out on it. Especially if you do it repeatedly. I am not exempt from that treatment either. It makes us better! This isn't the first time white supremacy has been brought up nonsensically in the politics boards, so I slam it with a comparison (deadly accurate, by the way) to AIDS Skrillex. I guess it hit too hard or something. Whatever. "Don't click this board if you can't take the heat". I'm not here to hurt your feelings, but I'm not gonna pull punches because they might get hurt.

Re: Illinois Travel ban

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 3:02 pm
by zombie
fair enough.

Re: Illinois Travel ban

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 3:03 pm
by Jason
Headhunter wrote:No worries Z. I don't feel attacked. He's just being annoying and thinks it's funny. I don't think it's funny. Not a big deal.
Your attempt to put me on the forum's ignore list says otherwise. It was clearly a big deal to you.

Re: Illinois Travel ban

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 3:06 pm
by Headhunter
zombie wrote:
Tiggnutz wrote:I'm not saying it's anything to do with left, liberal or democrat or right,conservative or republican I'm saying that we have let political difference reach a level of excepted hysteria. This should scare everyone. Spraying paint on people and knocking over trash cans has led to attempted murder. Republicans shouldn't be blaming this on democrats and democrats shouldn't be blaming Republicans cause it's all their fault.
i think it comes down to polarization and escalation, to the extreme. it's not something that only one side or the other, politically. i think that we should try to de-escalate. try to be more understanding or respectful of each other. try not to generalize or stereotype people by the worst of the group they identify with or whatever. at least, to the point that we have an influence. it could help a little bit.
Do people really generalize or stereotype that much here? I feel like I have to bend over backwards every time I point out something from a lunatic fringe contingent to show that I'm not grouping tens of millions together. And I have no problem with that, it's touchy territory and you want to be careful.

Re: Illinois Travel ban

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 3:07 pm
by showa58taro
I didn't know there was an ignore list. I just read everything and laugh at the nonsense.

Re: Illinois Travel ban

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 3:08 pm
by zombie
Headhunter wrote:
zombie wrote:
Tiggnutz wrote:I'm not saying it's anything to do with left, liberal or democrat or right,conservative or republican I'm saying that we have let political difference reach a level of excepted hysteria. This should scare everyone. Spraying paint on people and knocking over trash cans has led to attempted murder. Republicans shouldn't be blaming this on democrats and democrats shouldn't be blaming Republicans cause it's all their fault.
i think it comes down to polarization and escalation, to the extreme. it's not something that only one side or the other, politically. i think that we should try to de-escalate. try to be more understanding or respectful of each other. try not to generalize or stereotype people by the worst of the group they identify with or whatever. at least, to the point that we have an influence. it could help a little bit.
Do people really generalize or stereotype that much here? I feel like I have to bend over backwards every time I point out something from a lunatic fringe contingent to show that I'm not grouping tens of millions together. And I have no problem with that, it's touchy territory and you want to be careful.
are you saying that i'm making you feel like you have to start bending over backwards for that because of the post i just made, or that you feel that way in general, prior to my post above?

Re: Illinois Travel ban

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 3:10 pm
by zombie
showa58taro wrote:I didn't know there was an ignore list. I just read everything and laugh at the nonsense.
you can put people on a friends list or an enemies list. that's all it is. (i don't know what putting someone on a friends list does though. maybe send you notifications when they post or something)

Re: Illinois Travel ban

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 3:10 pm
by Headhunter
zombie wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
zombie wrote:
Tiggnutz wrote:I'm not saying it's anything to do with left, liberal or democrat or right,conservative or republican I'm saying that we have let political difference reach a level of excepted hysteria. This should scare everyone. Spraying paint on people and knocking over trash cans has led to attempted murder. Republicans shouldn't be blaming this on democrats and democrats shouldn't be blaming Republicans cause it's all their fault.
i think it comes down to polarization and escalation, to the extreme. it's not something that only one side or the other, politically. i think that we should try to de-escalate. try to be more understanding or respectful of each other. try not to generalize or stereotype people by the worst of the group they identify with or whatever. at least, to the point that we have an influence. it could help a little bit.
Do people really generalize or stereotype that much here? I feel like I have to bend over backwards every time I point out something from a lunatic fringe contingent to show that I'm not grouping tens of millions together. And I have no problem with that, it's touchy territory and you want to be careful.
are you saying that i'm making you feel like you have to start bending over backwards for that because of the post i just made, or that you feel that way in general, prior to my post above?
Nah, not you or anyone. Just kinda the way society operates. You don't want to offend people you like by not being careful.

Re: Illinois Travel ban

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 3:12 pm
by Headhunter
showa58taro wrote:I didn't know there was an ignore list. I just read everything and laugh at the nonsense.
I usually do too, just exercising my right to find something annoying, not funny and not worth reading.

Re: Illinois Travel ban

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 3:14 pm
by Jason
showa58taro wrote:I didn't know there was an ignore list. I just read everything and laugh at the nonsense.
A real snowflake's dream, that ignore list.

Re: Illinois Travel ban

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 3:16 pm
by zombie
Headhunter wrote:
zombie wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
zombie wrote:
Tiggnutz wrote:I'm not saying it's anything to do with left, liberal or democrat or right,conservative or republican I'm saying that we have let political difference reach a level of excepted hysteria. This should scare everyone. Spraying paint on people and knocking over trash cans has led to attempted murder. Republicans shouldn't be blaming this on democrats and democrats shouldn't be blaming Republicans cause it's all their fault.
i think it comes down to polarization and escalation, to the extreme. it's not something that only one side or the other, politically. i think that we should try to de-escalate. try to be more understanding or respectful of each other. try not to generalize or stereotype people by the worst of the group they identify with or whatever. at least, to the point that we have an influence. it could help a little bit.
Do people really generalize or stereotype that much here? I feel like I have to bend over backwards every time I point out something from a lunatic fringe contingent to show that I'm not grouping tens of millions together. And I have no problem with that, it's touchy territory and you want to be careful.
are you saying that i'm making you feel like you have to start bending over backwards for that because of the post i just made, or that you feel that way in general, prior to my post above?
Nah, not you or anyone. Just kinda the way society operates. You don't want to offend people you like by not being careful.
okay. you should never have to feel like that, that you have to walk on eggshells in a discussion. and i think that becoming polarized, as a culture or society, is where that comes from. it's an us vs. them mentality to the extreme. and i do see some of it on hmf. like trying to make the argument recently that if you criticize a cop, you want cops to be robots or be shot first or whatever.

Re: Illinois Travel ban

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 3:21 pm
by Headhunter
zombie wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
zombie wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
zombie wrote:
Tiggnutz wrote:I'm not saying it's anything to do with left, liberal or democrat or right,conservative or republican I'm saying that we have let political difference reach a level of excepted hysteria. This should scare everyone. Spraying paint on people and knocking over trash cans has led to attempted murder. Republicans shouldn't be blaming this on democrats and democrats shouldn't be blaming Republicans cause it's all their fault.
i think it comes down to polarization and escalation, to the extreme. it's not something that only one side or the other, politically. i think that we should try to de-escalate. try to be more understanding or respectful of each other. try not to generalize or stereotype people by the worst of the group they identify with or whatever. at least, to the point that we have an influence. it could help a little bit.
Do people really generalize or stereotype that much here? I feel like I have to bend over backwards every time I point out something from a lunatic fringe contingent to show that I'm not grouping tens of millions together. And I have no problem with that, it's touchy territory and you want to be careful.
are you saying that i'm making you feel like you have to start bending over backwards for that because of the post i just made, or that you feel that way in general, prior to my post above?
Nah, not you or anyone. Just kinda the way society operates. You don't want to offend people you like by not being careful.
okay. you should never have to feel like that, that you have to walk on eggshells in a discussion. and i think that becoming polarized, as a culture or society, is where that comes from. it's an us vs. them mentality to the extreme. and i do see some of it on hmf. like trying to make the argument recently that if you criticize a cop, you want cops to be robots or be shot first or whatever.
People weaponize that "walking on eggshells" stuff too. Half the reactions you'll see are genuinely people being offended because they misinterpreted who you're being critical of, and the other half is people who know damn well you're making the appropriate distinctions but want to play dumb and feign outrage because it's easy to.