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Re: Disability as a costume

Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 9:09 pm
by zombie
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:#OscarsSoWhite
has nothing to do with actors playing as disabled. :P
#OscarsSoSighted
if you get that trending, i'll give you a dollar. :P

Re: Disability as a costume

Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 12:26 pm
by showa58taro
"Who loses his sight" was all I needed there. How would you get Anna really blind person to play themselves before becoming blind?

Re: Disability as a costume

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:09 pm
by Foo
showa58taro wrote:"Who loses his sight" was all I needed there. How would you get Anna really blind person to play themselves before becoming blind?
Acting. The problem is you are assuming a sighted actor can play a person who becomes blind better than a person who actually became blind. See why disabled folks have a point?

Re: Disability as a costume

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:13 pm
by zombie
Foo wrote:
showa58taro wrote:"Who loses his sight" was all I needed there. How would you get Anna really blind person to play themselves before becoming blind?
Acting. The problem is you are assuming a sighted actor can play a person who becomes blind better than a person who actually became blind. See why disabled folks have a point?
disabled actors should get more roles. but alec baldwin should not get shit on for playing a blind guy.

Re: Disability as a costume

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:02 pm
by Foo
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
showa58taro wrote:"Who loses his sight" was all I needed there. How would you get Anna really blind person to play themselves before becoming blind?
Acting. The problem is you are assuming a sighted actor can play a person who becomes blind better than a person who actually became blind. See why disabled folks have a point?
disabled actors should get more roles. but alec baldwin should not get shit on for playing a blind guy.
He was a producer as well as the actor.

Re: Disability as a costume

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:17 pm
by zombie
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
showa58taro wrote:"Who loses his sight" was all I needed there. How would you get Anna really blind person to play themselves before becoming blind?
Acting. The problem is you are assuming a sighted actor can play a person who becomes blind better than a person who actually became blind. See why disabled folks have a point?
disabled actors should get more roles. but alec baldwin should not get shit on for playing a blind guy.
He was a producer as well as the actor.
so, there's a chance that it wouldn't even have gotten greenlit without his involvement? are you arguing that the movie shouldn't have been made if the lead had to be a sighted actor? i'm not sure what your point was in that?

Re: Disability as a costume

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:28 pm
by Foo
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
showa58taro wrote:"Who loses his sight" was all I needed there. How would you get Anna really blind person to play themselves before becoming blind?
Acting. The problem is you are assuming a sighted actor can play a person who becomes blind better than a person who actually became blind. See why disabled folks have a point?
disabled actors should get more roles. but alec baldwin should not get shit on for playing a blind guy.
He was a producer as well as the actor.
so, there's a chance that it wouldn't even have gotten greenlit without his involvement? are you arguing that the movie shouldn't have been made if the lead had to be a sighted actor? i'm not sure what your point was in that?
A movie about Rosa Parks is more likely to be greenlit if Rosa is played by Tom Cruise rather than a relative unknown black actress. As long as we are in agreement this is the same thing and equally ok, I have no objection.

Re: Disability as a costume

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:32 pm
by zombie
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
A movie about Rosa Parks is more likely to be greenlit if Rosa is played by Tom Cruise rather than a relative unknown black actress. As long as we are in agreement this is the same thing and equally ok, I have no objection.
like i said before, more disabled actors should get roles. casting a white guy as black is not the same as casting a person without disability as a disabled person.

Re: Disability as a costume

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:34 pm
by Foo
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
A movie about Rosa Parks is more likely to be greenlit if Rosa is played by Tom Cruise rather than a relative unknown black actress. As long as we are in agreement this is the same thing and equally ok, I have no objection.
like i said before, more disabled actors should get roles. casting a white guy as black is not the same as casting a person without disability as a disabled person.

Because skin pigmentation is difficult to replicate, but having no legs is easy!

Re: Disability as a costume

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:40 pm
by zombie
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
A movie about Rosa Parks is more likely to be greenlit if Rosa is played by Tom Cruise rather than a relative unknown black actress. As long as we are in agreement this is the same thing and equally ok, I have no objection.
like i said before, more disabled actors should get roles. casting a white guy as black is not the same as casting a person without disability as a disabled person.

Because skin pigmentation is difficult to replicate, but having no legs is easy!
this is a great argument. we should stab out alec baldwin's eyes for daring think that he could play a blind guy.

Re: Disability as a costume

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:07 pm
by Foo
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
A movie about Rosa Parks is more likely to be greenlit if Rosa is played by Tom Cruise rather than a relative unknown black actress. As long as we are in agreement this is the same thing and equally ok, I have no objection.
like i said before, more disabled actors should get roles. casting a white guy as black is not the same as casting a person without disability as a disabled person.

Because skin pigmentation is difficult to replicate, but having no legs is easy!
this is a great argument. we should stab out alec baldwin's eyes for daring think that he could play a blind guy.
What would you say about Tom Cruise playing Rosa Parks?

Re: Disability as a costume

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:09 pm
by Foo
Zombie, you are like 95% there! With my help, 100%!

Re: Disability as a costume

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:13 pm
by zombie
Foo wrote: What would you say about Tom Cruise playing Rosa Parks?
i think you know the ridiculousness of that comparison.

Re: Disability as a costume

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:15 pm
by zombie
Foo wrote:Zombie, you are like 95% there! With my help, 100%!
i'm not sure that i wanna be there.

Re: Disability as a costume

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:18 pm
by Foo
FWIW, Rosa Parks was light skinned and Tom Cruise is half italian. It can work!

*epic announcer voice* "This Fall...Tom Cruise...in a Michael Bay production...*EXPLOSION!*...*Tom Cruise runs to the front of the bus*...ROSA...(Tom Cruise shouts) My ass ain't movin!"

Re: Disability as a costume

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:20 pm
by Foo
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote: What would you say about Tom Cruise playing Rosa Parks?
i think you know the ridiculousness of that comparison.
Well, once you remove the gender identities from the equation, it is not so bad.

Re: Disability as a costume

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:23 pm
by zombie
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote: What would you say about Tom Cruise playing Rosa Parks?
i think you know the ridiculousness of that comparison.
Well, once you remove the gender identities from the equation, it is not so bad.
i can't have a mind of my own. (buzz)feed me what i must believe, mr. foo.

Re: Disability as a costume

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:26 pm
by Foo
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote: What would you say about Tom Cruise playing Rosa Parks?
i think you know the ridiculousness of that comparison.
Well, once you remove the gender identities from the equation, it is not so bad.
i can't have a mind of my own. (buzz)feed me what i must believe, mr. foo.
I do it in more subtle ways!

Re: Disability as a costume

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:30 pm
by zombie
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote: What would you say about Tom Cruise playing Rosa Parks?
i think you know the ridiculousness of that comparison.
Well, once you remove the gender identities from the equation, it is not so bad.
i can't have a mind of my own. (buzz)feed me what i must believe, mr. foo.
I do it in more subtle ways!
not really. :P

Re: Disability as a costume

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:36 pm
by Foo
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote: What would you say about Tom Cruise playing Rosa Parks?
i think you know the ridiculousness of that comparison.
Well, once you remove the gender identities from the equation, it is not so bad.
i can't have a mind of my own. (buzz)feed me what i must believe, mr. foo.
I do it in more subtle ways!
not really. :P
It is next level. Does not appear to be subtle, but is subtle.