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Headhunter wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2024 1:59 pm Slaughter I know you hate talking about this stuff but your perspective is refreshing lol.

My politics/culture war battery on HMF is pretty much on empty. But this story blew up this morning and was obviously wrong

What's wrong with it? Cousin IT wants to play and you want to let it. I say pass the tits test like all the other chicks.

Headhunter wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2024 1:59 pm Slaughter I know you hate talking about this stuff but your perspective is refreshing lol.

My politics/culture war battery on HMF is pretty much on empty. But this story blew up this morning and was obviously wrong

This isn't politics, this is just science.

Jason wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2024 2:01 pm They're not disclosing the things she's taking or her T-levels. We don't know her bone density either. The advantage of this has the potential to be astronomical. This is a biological phenomenon and if this person is to compete, it should be against others with a similar occurrence.

No numbers means we don't know shit, so there's no point in talking/debating/arguing about it.

Reign in Blood wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2024 2:04 pm

Headhunter wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2024 1:59 pm Slaughter I know you hate talking about this stuff but your perspective is refreshing lol.

My politics/culture war battery on HMF is pretty much on empty. But this story blew up this morning and was obviously wrong

What's wrong with it? Cousin IT wants to play and you want to let it. I say pass the tits test like all the other chicks.

You guys are failing like five different critical thinking exams simultaneously here

She had too much test for whatever the rulings are for whatever she did before. The olympics apparently use a different standard for that, which she passed. Not her fault that there isn't a fucking consensus on this shit. And I checked her wiki page. Apparently she's not even that great of a fighter, so I dunno what all the fuss is about.

Headhunter wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2024 2:07 pm

Reign in Blood wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2024 2:04 pm

Headhunter wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2024 1:59 pm Slaughter I know you hate talking about this stuff but your perspective is refreshing lol.

My politics/culture war battery on HMF is pretty much on empty. But this story blew up this morning and was obviously wrong

What's wrong with it? Cousin IT wants to play and you want to let it. I say pass the tits test like all the other chicks.

You guys are failing like five different critical thinking exams simultaneously here

Not really. If you can't pass rudimentary exams, you have no business going onto the Olympic level. Maybe get that basic science shit cleared first.

Reign in Blood wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2024 2:10 pm

Headhunter wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2024 2:07 pm

Reign in Blood wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2024 2:04 pm

Headhunter wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2024 1:59 pm Slaughter I know you hate talking about this stuff but your perspective is refreshing lol.

My politics/culture war battery on HMF is pretty much on empty. But this story blew up this morning and was obviously wrong

What's wrong with it? Cousin IT wants to play and you want to let it. I say pass the tits test like all the other chicks.

You guys are failing like five different critical thinking exams simultaneously here

Not really. If you can't pass rudimentary exams, you have no business going onto the Olympic level. Maybe get that basic science shit cleared first.

Okay, six

Reign in Blood wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2024 2:10 pm Not really. If you can't pass rudimentary exams, you have no business going onto the Olympic level. Maybe get that basic science shit cleared first.

Unless I'm misunderstanding something, she did pass.

Slaughterhouserock wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2024 2:06 pm

Jason wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2024 2:01 pm They're not disclosing the things she's taking or her T-levels. We don't know her bone density either. The advantage of this has the potential to be astronomical. This is a biological phenomenon and if this person is to compete, it should be against others with a similar occurrence.

No numbers means we don't know shit, so there's no point in talking/debating/arguing about it.

I know you don't follow sports, but undisclosed numbers when it comes to testing is inexcusable and implies there is something to hide. It is a huge deal and must be talked about especially when the literal livelihood of fighters depends on it. This is a huge issue.

Jason wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2024 2:12 pm I know you don't follow sports, but undisclosed numbers when it comes to testing is inexcusable and implies there is something to hide. It is a huge deal and must be talked about especially when the literal livelihood of fighters depends on it. This is a huge issue.

Do we know anyone else's test numbers? Is that a normal thing to know? Do we even know what they use as the upper limit for a test result?

Slaughterhouserock wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2024 2:12 pm

Reign in Blood wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2024 2:10 pm Not really. If you can't pass rudimentary exams, you have no business going onto the Olympic level. Maybe get that basic science shit cleared first.

Unless I'm misunderstanding something, she did pass.

So then why didn't she knock the bitch out and tell everyone to suck my non-existant dick? That's the thing, if she did nothing wrong, what's the deal? Why does Headward have to pin himself to a cross for it?

Reign in Blood wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2024 2:21 pm

Slaughterhouserock wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2024 2:12 pm

Reign in Blood wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2024 2:10 pm Not really. If you can't pass rudimentary exams, you have no business going onto the Olympic level. Maybe get that basic science shit cleared first.

Unless I'm misunderstanding something, she did pass.

So then why didn't she knock the bitch out and tell everyone to suck my non-existant dick? That's the thing, if she did nothing wrong, what's the deal? Why does Headward have to pin himself to a cross for it?

What even is this word salad

Headhunter wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2024 2:22 pm

Reign in Blood wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2024 2:21 pm

Slaughterhouserock wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2024 2:12 pm

Reign in Blood wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2024 2:10 pm Not really. If you can't pass rudimentary exams, you have no business going onto the Olympic level. Maybe get that basic science shit cleared first.

Unless I'm misunderstanding something, she did pass.

So then why didn't she knock the bitch out and tell everyone to suck my non-existant dick? That's the thing, if she did nothing wrong, what's the deal? Why does Headward have to pin himself to a cross for it?

What even is this word salad

we should get kid rock to shout it. maybe it will come across more clear that way.

Reign in Blood wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2024 2:21 pm So then why didn't she knock the bitch out and tell everyone to suck my non-existant dick? That's the thing, if she did nothing wrong, what's the deal? Why does Headward have to pin himself to a cross for it?

You hit the nail on the head. She didn't do anything wrong, people are just calling her a man or trans and saying that's why she won. If anyone wants to complain about any of this, it should be that the regulations are not consistent across platforms(e.g. she failed the test results for a different organization, but passed at the olympics).

she was beaten by two other women boxers, who did not have the advantage that she has. was the toll on their body worse than it would have been against a woman that did not have her advantage?

To answer (I think?) the question, “what’s wrong” is the entire apparatus of the online right has been raging all day about a woman who is a woman being a man. And it’s both factually incorrect and potentially harmful. I think it is fair to correct the record when people here are spreading the bullshit. Otherwise it never comes up

The problem is people are stupid, especially when it comes to the internet, and believe everything they read without actually checking to see if it's true or not.

Slaughterhouserock wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2024 2:30 pm The problem is people are stupid, especially when it comes to the internet, and believe everything they read without actually checking to see if it's true or not.

Good rule of thumb: If you see something that seems too ridiculous to be true from either a verified account on Twitter or your crazy uncle on Facebook, it’s probably worth taking a step back

Basically anything on social media should be treated as hearsay until you can verify it's authenticity.

Slaughterhouserock wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2024 2:14 pm

Jason wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2024 2:12 pm I know you don't follow sports, but undisclosed numbers when it comes to testing is inexcusable and implies there is something to hide. It is a huge deal and must be talked about especially when the literal livelihood of fighters depends on it. This is a huge issue.

Do we know anyone else's test numbers? Is that a normal thing to know? Do we even know what they use as the upper limit for a test result?

Generally you can't even compete if your numbers test out of the range of normalcy in just about any sporting event. I'm all for anyone and everyone having a platform to compete, but when you have a biological phenomenon like this, it becomes extremely tricky and you have to take into account the safety of fighters. The fact they are allowing this person to compete without disclosing any results is shady as hell and if anything it puts unnecessary criticism on the person who may simply just want to compete.

Allowing people like Fallon Fox or Lia Thomas to perform is on a completely different level of horse shit though. Especially Fallon Fox. Women are just biologically not bred for fighting at all and having Fallon Fox come in with male bone density and strength and literally cracking skulls is unacceptable.