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Jason wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 5:09 pm
zombie wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 5:08 pm
Jason wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 5:05 pm Additionally, seeing a vulnerable female adds to the suspense and terror of the movie. There is a bigger sense of doom and dread when the final girl is the last one left as opposed to a man. The timid, smart, cute girl who has dignity and class is always the go-to in slasher flicks.
hey now.. don't try to harsh my woke slasher subgenre! laurue smoked pot. sally b and e'd! take that dignity and class! :P
JLC is a bit overrated imo.
yeah, she did need a man's help in the end.
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zombie wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 5:10 pm
Jason wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 5:09 pm
zombie wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 5:08 pm
Jason wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 5:05 pm Additionally, seeing a vulnerable female adds to the suspense and terror of the movie. There is a bigger sense of doom and dread when the final girl is the last one left as opposed to a man. The timid, smart, cute girl who has dignity and class is always the go-to in slasher flicks.
hey now.. don't try to harsh my woke slasher subgenre! laurue smoked pot. sally b and e'd! take that dignity and class! :P
JLC is a bit overrated imo.
yeah, she did need a man's help in the end.
What does a man have to do with anything? I think she just happened to be someone who was cast in a world-beater slasher flick but her character didn't really do anything much different than your typical final girl.
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Jason wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 5:19 pm
zombie wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 5:10 pm
Jason wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 5:09 pm
zombie wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 5:08 pm
Jason wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 5:05 pm Additionally, seeing a vulnerable female adds to the suspense and terror of the movie. There is a bigger sense of doom and dread when the final girl is the last one left as opposed to a man. The timid, smart, cute girl who has dignity and class is always the go-to in slasher flicks.
hey now.. don't try to harsh my woke slasher subgenre! laurue smoked pot. sally b and e'd! take that dignity and class! :P
JLC is a bit overrated imo.
yeah, she did need a man's help in the end.
What does a man have to do with anything? I think she just happened to be someone who was cast in a world-beater slasher flick but her character didn't really do anything much different than your typical final girl.
you're judging her in retrospect? a lot of those "typical final girls" didn't exist in her time.
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and a man takes away from her final girl-ness in her film, not retrospectfully! :P
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zombie wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 5:22 pmyou're judging her in retrospect? a lot of those "typical final girls" didn't exist in her time.
Ah, good point.

I'm not really judging her. I just don't think she's the universal #1 that people always place her in. There are others I liked better and it's all subjective, really.
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Jason wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 5:26 pm
zombie wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 5:22 pmyou're judging her in retrospect? a lot of those "typical final girls" didn't exist in her time.
Ah, good point.

I'm not really judging her. I just don't think she's the universal #1 that people always place her in. There are others I liked better and it's all subjective, really.
yeah, i get that. she's not my favorite as a character (nancy thompson) or an actress within the genre (dee wallace)
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zombie wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 5:23 pm and a man takes away from her final girl-ness in her film, not retrospectfully! :P
I don't really have a preference on how a final girl gets away, whether she's saved or does it all on her own. Olivia Hussey is arguably the best final girl to ever do it for sure, but she dies in the end. It really just depends on the progression of the movie rather than what she does in the end scenes.
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zombie wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 5:28 pm
Jason wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 5:26 pm
zombie wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 5:22 pmyou're judging her in retrospect? a lot of those "typical final girls" didn't exist in her time.
Ah, good point.

I'm not really judging her. I just don't think she's the universal #1 that people always place her in. There are others I liked better and it's all subjective, really.
yeah, i get that. she's not my favorite as a character (nancy thompson) or an actress within the genre (dee wallace)
I couldn't even begin to pick a favorite. If I go the underrated route my mind automatically jumps to Chris in Friday 3.
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Jason wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 5:31 pm
zombie wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 5:23 pm and a man takes away from her final girl-ness in her film, not retrospectfully! :P
I don't really have a preference on how a final girl gets away, whether she's saved or does it all on her own. Olivia Hussey is arguably the best final girl to ever do it for sure, but she dies in the end. It really just depends on the progression of the movie rather than what she does in the end scenes.
best final girl, really... bet you can't even name the character without googling! :P

seriously, i think that how she goes throughout the film does have an affect on her final girl status. but not on the film itself. just my point of view though.
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Jason wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 5:31 pm
zombie wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 5:23 pm and a man takes away from her final girl-ness in her film, not retrospectfully! :P
I don't really have a preference on how a final girl gets away, whether she's saved or does it all on her own. Olivia Hussey is arguably the best final girl to ever do it for sure, but she dies in the end.
Who told you these odious lies?
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zombie wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 5:36 pm
Jason wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 5:31 pm
zombie wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 5:23 pm and a man takes away from her final girl-ness in her film, not retrospectfully! :P
I don't really have a preference on how a final girl gets away, whether she's saved or does it all on her own. Olivia Hussey is arguably the best final girl to ever do it for sure, but she dies in the end. It really just depends on the progression of the movie rather than what she does in the end scenes.
best final girl, really... bet you can't even name the character without googling! :P

seriously, i think that how she goes throughout the film does have an affect on her final girl status. but not on the film itself. just my point of view though.
Black Christmas is in my top 3 favorite horror movies of all time. I know that movie top to bottom. :P

Exactly. The movie is not about her. That's why it works so well. You don't have to stand out to be the best.
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Reign in Blood wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 5:37 pm
Jason wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 5:31 pm
zombie wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 5:23 pm and a man takes away from her final girl-ness in her film, not retrospectfully! :P
I don't really have a preference on how a final girl gets away, whether she's saved or does it all on her own. Olivia Hussey is arguably the best final girl to ever do it for sure, but she dies in the end.
Who told you these odious lies?
As far as I know, there are two truths in that sentence.
1) Olivia Hussey as Jess arguably being the best.
2) That she dies in the end.
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Jason wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 5:45 pm
zombie wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 5:36 pm
Jason wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 5:31 pm
zombie wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 5:23 pm and a man takes away from her final girl-ness in her film, not retrospectfully! :P
I don't really have a preference on how a final girl gets away, whether she's saved or does it all on her own. Olivia Hussey is arguably the best final girl to ever do it for sure, but she dies in the end. It really just depends on the progression of the movie rather than what she does in the end scenes.
best final girl, really... bet you can't even name the character without googling! :P

seriously, i think that how she goes throughout the film does have an affect on her final girl status. but not on the film itself. just my point of view though.
Black Christmas is in my top 3 favorite horror movies of all time. I know that movie top to bottom. :P

Exactly. The movie is not about her. That's why it works so well. You don't have to stand out to be the best.
i think she does stand out as a final girl. but i get your point.
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is there anyone worth a final girl-ing from the 2000s forward?
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zombie wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 6:55 pm is there anyone worth a final girl-ing from the 2000s forward?
Mia Goth in X
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Tiggnutz wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 6:59 pm
zombie wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 6:55 pm is there anyone worth a final girl-ing from the 2000s forward?
Mia Goth in X
nice call. possibly the only final girl who was also the villain (and not the same role)
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Cindy Campbell. Scary Movie franchise.
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Happy Birthday Slaughter!
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Jason wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 3:37 pm Realizing John Mayer can play guitar is pretty wild. Didn't think he could ever come close to playing something like Neon, but wow. Nice.
I've been talking him up for almost 15 years lol. Seeing him in concert back in 2010 was a pleasant surprise.
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DancesWithWerewolves wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 8:05 pm
Jason wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 3:37 pm Realizing John Mayer can play guitar is pretty wild. Didn't think he could ever come close to playing something like Neon, but wow. Nice.
I've been talking him up for almost 15 years lol. Seeing him in concert back in 2010 was a pleasant surprise.
You've mentioned him doing shit before. Finally saw a video today. He can definitely play.
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