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Tiggnutz wrote:
Cutting this bullshit out would be a good start

maybe. don't pick at the wound. but don't also just cover it up or stop talking about it.

showa58taro wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:no, don't blame america. but you can protest certain things going on in america.

Sure, like Firefly being cancelled. Kneel for the anthem. Makes as much sense as any other reason I have seen.

it's funny how you have to twist everything to suit your agenda, rather than actually discussing or debating the topic as it is.

Funny if it was not so boring and predictable.

Nothing boring and predictable about exploiting tragedy for political purposes though...

"Hooray, it was a white dude!"

"What can we ban?"

This white privilege bullshit trying to blame everything fucked up on a generalization of a race( actually funny for the we hate racism wing) is part of the reason there's a Trump in the White House.

Tiggnutz wrote:This white privilege bullshit trying to blame everything fucked up on a generalization of a race( actually funny for the we hate racism wing) is part of the reason there's a Trump in the White House.

there should be a push away from generalizing, when something happens that you don't like. agreed.

zombie wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:This white privilege bullshit trying to blame everything fucked up on a generalization of a race( actually funny for the we hate racism wing) is part of the reason there's a Trump in the White House.

there should be a push away from generalizing, when something happens that you don't like. agreed.

It does nothing but corner people and to be honest cause animosity that could morph into racism. Not the right way to get people to talk shit out. Counterproductive

Tiggnutz wrote:

zombie wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:This white privilege bullshit trying to blame everything fucked up on a generalization of a race( actually funny for the we hate racism wing) is part of the reason there's a Trump in the White House.

there should be a push away from generalizing, when something happens that you don't like. agreed.

It does nothing but corner people and to be honest cause animosity that could morph into racism. Not the right way to get people to talk shit out. Counterproductive

if it's going to change, it probably needs to come first from the most visible, most powerful / public figures in which ever community, and across the board.

zombie wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

zombie wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:This white privilege bullshit trying to blame everything fucked up on a generalization of a race( actually funny for the we hate racism wing) is part of the reason there's a Trump in the White House.

there should be a push away from generalizing, when something happens that you don't like. agreed.

It does nothing but corner people and to be honest cause animosity that could morph into racism. Not the right way to get people to talk shit out. Counterproductive

if it's going to change, it probably needs to come first from the most visible, most powerful / public figures in which ever community, and across the board.

I agree but I also believe it's a bottom to top thing

Tiggnutz wrote:

zombie wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

zombie wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:This white privilege bullshit trying to blame everything fucked up on a generalization of a race( actually funny for the we hate racism wing) is part of the reason there's a Trump in the White House.

there should be a push away from generalizing, when something happens that you don't like. agreed.

It does nothing but corner people and to be honest cause animosity that could morph into racism. Not the right way to get people to talk shit out. Counterproductive

if it's going to change, it probably needs to come first from the most visible, most powerful / public figures in which ever community, and across the board.

I agree but I also believe it's a bottom to top thing

if the people at the top work against it, then it's not likely to change at the bottom, at least not in a lasting way.

zombie wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

zombie wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:This white privilege bullshit trying to blame everything fucked up on a generalization of a race( actually funny for the we hate racism wing) is part of the reason there's a Trump in the White House.

there should be a push away from generalizing, when something happens that you don't like. agreed.

It does nothing but corner people and to be honest cause animosity that could morph into racism. Not the right way to get people to talk shit out. Counterproductive

if it's going to change, it probably needs to come first from the most visible, most powerful / public figures in which ever community, and across the board.

So why do you think Obama made things so much worse?

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

zombie wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:This white privilege bullshit trying to blame everything fucked up on a generalization of a race( actually funny for the we hate racism wing) is part of the reason there's a Trump in the White House.

there should be a push away from generalizing, when something happens that you don't like. agreed.

It does nothing but corner people and to be honest cause animosity that could morph into racism. Not the right way to get people to talk shit out. Counterproductive

if it's going to change, it probably needs to come first from the most visible, most powerful / public figures in which ever community, and across the board.

So why do you think Obama made things so much worse?

i said that it should come from the most public figures, for this reason. because the people on top, specifically the two most recent presidents (or maybe even three most recent) are perceived to make things worse while they are in office.

zombie wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

zombie wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:This white privilege bullshit trying to blame everything fucked up on a generalization of a race( actually funny for the we hate racism wing) is part of the reason there's a Trump in the White House.

there should be a push away from generalizing, when something happens that you don't like. agreed.

It does nothing but corner people and to be honest cause animosity that could morph into racism. Not the right way to get people to talk shit out. Counterproductive

if it's going to change, it probably needs to come first from the most visible, most powerful / public figures in which ever community, and across the board.

Sheep being led to the slaughter by the wolves.

The point is not that white people should be grouped as homicidal.

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

zombie wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:This white privilege bullshit trying to blame everything fucked up on a generalization of a race( actually funny for the we hate racism wing) is part of the reason there's a Trump in the White House.

there should be a push away from generalizing, when something happens that you don't like. agreed.

It does nothing but corner people and to be honest cause animosity that could morph into racism. Not the right way to get people to talk shit out. Counterproductive

if it's going to change, it probably needs to come first from the most visible, most powerful / public figures in which ever community, and across the board.

Sheep being led to the slaughter by the wolves.

explain that better? should we not trust the people in positions of power? what is your position with this?

zombie wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

zombie wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

zombie wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:This white privilege bullshit trying to blame everything fucked up on a generalization of a race( actually funny for the we hate racism wing) is part of the reason there's a Trump in the White House.

there should be a push away from generalizing, when something happens that you don't like. agreed.

It does nothing but corner people and to be honest cause animosity that could morph into racism. Not the right way to get people to talk shit out. Counterproductive

if it's going to change, it probably needs to come first from the most visible, most powerful / public figures in which ever community, and across the board.

I agree but I also believe it's a bottom to top thing

if the people at the top work against it, then it's not likely to change at the bottom, at least not in a lasting way.

You can't force people to not be racist it's something you must make the decision to be or not be.

Tiggnutz wrote: You can't force people to not be racist it's something you must make the decision to be or not be.

agreed. and that works on an individual level. it just doesn;t work so much on a cultural or societal level. you can decide to not be racist and try to encourage that in others around you, but if the majority see a public figure who is fanning the flames, or carving the wound deeper, then it's going to be counter productive, and it reaches far beyond your own scope of influence.

zombie wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote: You can't force people to not be racist it's something you must make the decision to be or not be.

agreed. and that works on an individual level. it just doesn;t work so much on a cultural or societal level. you can decide to not be racist and try to encourage that in others around you, but if the majority see a public figure who is fanning the flames, or carving the wound deeper, then it's going to be counter productive, and it reaches far beyond your own scope of influence.

Agreed but give the every day citizen the benefit of the doubt. In America leaders come and go they may encourage or discourage things but I doubt they do more than reach people who already believe what they do

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

zombie wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:This white privilege bullshit trying to blame everything fucked up on a generalization of a race( actually funny for the we hate racism wing) is part of the reason there's a Trump in the White House.

there should be a push away from generalizing, when something happens that you don't like. agreed.

It does nothing but corner people and to be honest cause animosity that could morph into racism. Not the right way to get people to talk shit out. Counterproductive

if it's going to change, it probably needs to come first from the most visible, most powerful / public figures in which ever community, and across the board.

Sheep being led to the slaughter by the wolves.

explain that better? should we not trust the people in positions of power? what is your position with this?

When are we going to learn that the power is in us all, not in who we follow?

Society has this weird thing with following. Lead your life and earn respect. Lead by example, not by rhetoric. Everyone is an internet hero, and a real world loser.

I believe the left will always grab low hanging fruit and jingle the keys to distract the populous from reality with the goal of never improving anything but keeping power. The reason I'm a republican not a democrat. I would be an independent but the Republicans are a sorry batch and I feel like my vote on picking them is important

I feel so old because I remember when we would have to our parents or grandparents on how to behave, instead of following Kim Kardashian, George Clooney, and late night talk show hosts.

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

zombie wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:This white privilege bullshit trying to blame everything fucked up on a generalization of a race( actually funny for the we hate racism wing) is part of the reason there's a Trump in the White House.

there should be a push away from generalizing, when something happens that you don't like. agreed.

It does nothing but corner people and to be honest cause animosity that could morph into racism. Not the right way to get people to talk shit out. Counterproductive

if it's going to change, it probably needs to come first from the most visible, most powerful / public figures in which ever community, and across the board.

Sheep being led to the slaughter by the wolves.

explain that better? should we not trust the people in positions of power? what is your position with this?

When are we going to learn that the power is in us all, not in who we follow?

Society has this weird thing with following. Lead your life and earn respect. Lead by example, not by rhetoric. Everyone is an internet hero, and a real world loser.

lead by example implies that people are following your example.

but i am all for not trusting public figures and calling them on their shit. you frown on that though. *shrug*