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I hope Spacey isn't treated any different than a guy who tried to fuck a 14 year old girl. Coming out as gay does not excuse trying to lure and fuck a kid.

Tiggnutz wrote:I hope Spacey isn't treated any different than a guy who tried to fuck a 14 year old girl. Coming out as gay does not excuse trying to lure and fuck a kid.

doesn't seem, from the article, that he was using that as justification. and there is no justification. hopefully he doesn't do it again. ugh.

Foo wrote:If Nostradamus was more accurate, he could be me:

http://www.businessinsider.com/kevin-sp ... on-2017-10

Pedophile confirmed. Sick gay confirmed. Molested so many kids he can't even recall confirmed,

Jesus what a mess of a statement. Intentional no doubt.

zombie wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:I hope Spacey isn't treated any different than a guy who tried to fuck a 14 year old girl. Coming out as gay does not excuse trying to lure and fuck a kid.

doesn't seem, from the article, that he was using that as justification. and there is no justification. hopefully he doesn't do it again. ugh.

Would be a little naive to think it was a one time thing.

Tiggnutz wrote:

zombie wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:I hope Spacey isn't treated any different than a guy who tried to fuck a 14 year old girl. Coming out as gay does not excuse trying to lure and fuck a kid.

doesn't seem, from the article, that he was using that as justification. and there is no justification. hopefully he doesn't do it again. ugh.

Would be a little naive to think it was a one time thing.

Not necessarily. Seems a bit odd to assume the worst with no evidence too.

Tiggnutz wrote:

zombie wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:I hope Spacey isn't treated any different than a guy who tried to fuck a 14 year old girl. Coming out as gay does not excuse trying to lure and fuck a kid.

doesn't seem, from the article, that he was using that as justification. and there is no justification. hopefully he doesn't do it again. ugh.

Would be a little naive to think it was a one time thing.

no, i don't presume to know how many times he may have done that, or to how many. just saying that i don't think him coming out was done to justify his actions.

Foo wrote:If Nostradamus was more accurate, he could be me:

http://www.businessinsider.com/kevin-sp ... on-2017-10

Pedophile confirmed. Sick gay confirmed. Molested so many kids he can't even recall confirmed,

One day zombs is going to believe in you.

Read my palm and tell me something good, Fooskey.

showa58taro wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

zombie wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:I hope Spacey isn't treated any different than a guy who tried to fuck a 14 year old girl. Coming out as gay does not excuse trying to lure and fuck a kid.

doesn't seem, from the article, that he was using that as justification. and there is no justification. hopefully he doesn't do it again. ugh.

Would be a little naive to think it was a one time thing.

Not necessarily. Seems a bit odd to assume the worst with no evidence too.

I'm sure he was a patron saint with all the other little boys he invites over to party with.

Just saying, Family Guy referenced both Weinstein and Spacey's perviness a long time ago.

I've never gotten THAT kind of dirt from Seth.

zombie wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:I hope Spacey isn't treated any different than a guy who tried to fuck a 14 year old girl. Coming out as gay does not excuse trying to lure and fuck a kid.

doesn't seem, from the article, that he was using that as justification. and there is no justification. hopefully he doesn't do it again. ugh.

I felt him coming out as gay was just trying to clear ambiguity that's trailed him all these decades. Which would work fine if Rapp (I didn't go to IMDB, but is he the same guy that was in Adventures in Babysitting and Rent?) didn't come out with this.

Currently waiting for Uma Thurman's bombshell. She was being interviewed a couple weeks ago about Harvey, and she wouldn't respond, saying she's too angry and when she's too angry she's not able to articulate what she wants to say well, so when her anger tides down, she plans on talking. She's my second biggest anticipation to hear something, right behind Feldman.

Feldman, is currently outting Haim's mom as a pedo enabler, because she's always trying to get him to shut up about it.

Headhunter wrote:Just saying, Family Guy referenced both Weinstein and Spacey's perviness a long time ago.

I've never gotten THAT kind of dirt from Seth.

Must've missed the Spacey ones, but yeah I've caught his Harvey ones.

James Woods had plenty of sex deviant jokes too on Family Guy. Thanks to Amber Tamblin he's being exposed as an ephebophile (something most men are, but has that dangerous line of violating age of consent, which he clearly doesn't care about when described her then younger than 18 age as "even better.")

Reign in Blood wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

zombie wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:I hope Spacey isn't treated any different than a guy who tried to fuck a 14 year old girl. Coming out as gay does not excuse trying to lure and fuck a kid.

doesn't seem, from the article, that he was using that as justification. and there is no justification. hopefully he doesn't do it again. ugh.

Would be a little naive to think it was a one time thing.

Not necessarily. Seems a bit odd to assume the worst with no evidence too.

I'm sure he was a patron saint with all the other little boys he invites over to party with.

He says he doesn't remember. I think if you try to fuck a 14 year old boy once in your life that's a lasting memory.

zombie wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

zombie wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:I hope Spacey isn't treated any different than a guy who tried to fuck a 14 year old girl. Coming out as gay does not excuse trying to lure and fuck a kid.

doesn't seem, from the article, that he was using that as justification. and there is no justification. hopefully he doesn't do it again. ugh.

Would be a little naive to think it was a one time thing.

no, i don't presume to know how many times he may have done that, or to how many. just saying that i don't think him coming out was done to justify his actions.

It was to distract. Again, this is a well known thing that goes on. People now claiming outrage after acting like everything was good for years are almost as bad as the perp.

Amazing how many photos there are of these people standing and laughing next to pedos.

The Bryan Singer, Spacey, McKellen stuff is far worse than anything Weinstein did in my opinion. I believe Weinstein raped women in the way a John rapes a hooker. He used his position in the industry and the prostitution received compensation.

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

zombie wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:I hope Spacey isn't treated any different than a guy who tried to fuck a 14 year old girl. Coming out as gay does not excuse trying to lure and fuck a kid.

doesn't seem, from the article, that he was using that as justification. and there is no justification. hopefully he doesn't do it again. ugh.

Would be a little naive to think it was a one time thing.

no, i don't presume to know how many times he may have done that, or to how many. just saying that i don't think him coming out was done to justify his actions.

It was to distract. Again, this is a well known thing that goes on. People now claiming outrage after acting like everything was good for years are almost as bad as the perp.

Amazing how many photos there are of these people standing and laughing next to pedos.

The Bryan Singer, Spacey, McKellen stuff is far worse than anything Weinstein did in my opinion. I believe Weinstein raped women in the way a John rapes a hooker. He used his position in the industry and the prostitution received compensation.

Sounds like lots of the things Weinstein did were straight up rape with nothing about it consensual.

Tiggnutz wrote:

Reign in Blood wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

zombie wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:I hope Spacey isn't treated any different than a guy who tried to fuck a 14 year old girl. Coming out as gay does not excuse trying to lure and fuck a kid.

doesn't seem, from the article, that he was using that as justification. and there is no justification. hopefully he doesn't do it again. ugh.

Would be a little naive to think it was a one time thing.

Not necessarily. Seems a bit odd to assume the worst with no evidence too.

I'm sure he was a patron saint with all the other little boys he invites over to party with.

He says he doesn't remember. I think if you try to fuck a 14 year old boy once in your life that's a lasting memory.

Speaks to how often he engages in such acts, he can’t even keep track.

Maybe, but I am not buying it right now. Rose McGowen was legit raped and settled for a small amount of money and then stood next to the guy smiling for photos years later? I think those ladies were the victims of abuse of power and I think many said nothing or froze up, but the details are too sketchy.

One of them claimed rape where he started giving her oral and she pretended to like it. I mean, this is really pushing the envelope of credibility. Did she want to be with him sexually? Of course not. Did she allow it to further her career? Did she regret it later? I think yes to both.

Foo wrote:
It was to distract. Again, this is a well known thing that goes on. People now claiming outrage after acting like everything was good for years are almost as bad as the perp.

Amazing how many photos there are of these people standing and laughing next to pedos.

The Bryan Singer, Spacey, McKellen stuff is far worse than anything Weinstein did in my opinion. I believe Weinstein raped women in the way a John rapes a hooker. He used his position in the industry and the prostitution received compensation.

i think d is on the right track with spacey's coming out.

and i don't equate not coming forward with "acting like everything is fine". it is probably more about feeling powerless to your attacker, and worthless among peers as well. and obviously that is not true of everyone. some people may be coming forward with false claims or twisting an encounter to something bad, but that's not everyone. and it's hopefully not the majority of people coming forward here.

i haven't read everything that weinstein has done, but why do you always try to excuse him or downplay it or whatever? these are two separate things. spacey / singer's shit doesn't need to be used as a way to overlook or dismiss what weinstein has done.

I am not excusing him, but I seek the truth, not hyperbole when we are talking about crimes.

Some of the things described as rape or sexual assault by these women I have been a "victim" of.

Also, you know my feelings on prostitution, so calling them prostitutes is not a free pass on him at all. Coercion happens in many forms. Giving a hooker money and giving someone a job for sex is not as different as they want to make it out to be. Also, it is amazing how time and current situation changes things. If McGowen was still a star in Weinstein films, she would be posing with him for more pictures rather than accusing him of rape. To pretend otherwise is incredibly naive.

So was it rape or not? Does rape suddenly change when convenient?

with mcgowan specifically, it seems opportunistic a little bit from the outside. but i don't know her or what she went through. i don't know what was done, or how she felt about it. etc. so i'm not going to play like i do.

i think there should be a distinction between something consensual or upfront at least (because it may be turned down), that involves monetary gain or success. and something forced onto a person, that involves monetary gain or success.

i get trying to look beyond the sensationalism that some media outlets go for, and probably some actors too. but why link the two? what was the purpose there? why play spacey's crimes against weinstein's? i don't see the need for that, is all.

Rose McGowen has been a career attention whore. As she saw momentum she immediately tried to capitalize on it and make herself the center of activism #RoseArmy