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Re: Kavanaugh Debacle

Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2018 7:14 pm
by Foo
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:[

If you do not want people filling in the blanks for you, simply do not leave the blanks.
if you ask for my opinion and my viewpoint, simply don't force your own in place of mine.
It is like an unfinished puzzle. Calls my name.
well then just have conversations and debates with yourself. it should be easier that way. :P
I do that also. Half retard, half genius.

Re: Kavanaugh Debacle

Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2018 7:19 pm
by zombie
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
DancesWithWerewolves wrote:
No, nothing legal brought forth because there's nothing, but the story got out there and of course the public lynch mob lumped him with Weinstein and Cosby. But I thought his accusation sounded close to what Foo was talking about.
the internet jumped on gunn for being at a to catch a predator themed party and making jokes about pedophilia. again, that's the internet for you.
Gunn's holier than thou attitude towards others also played into his fate.
holier than thou in what way?

if they had not floated the idea that he was a pedophile, would he have been booted by disney? do you really believe that?
I think he is a toxic person on multiple levels, and does not fit with the Disney culture. His general attitude definitely contributed to his release.

In your statement, who is "they"? Because I believe it was his own words, right?
people made accusations against him based on his posts, yeah. he got booted because of claims of being an abuser with no proof to that. that is what contributed to his release.

Re: Kavanaugh Debacle

Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2018 7:57 pm
by Foo
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
DancesWithWerewolves wrote:
No, nothing legal brought forth because there's nothing, but the story got out there and of course the public lynch mob lumped him with Weinstein and Cosby. But I thought his accusation sounded close to what Foo was talking about.
the internet jumped on gunn for being at a to catch a predator themed party and making jokes about pedophilia. again, that's the internet for you.
Gunn's holier than thou attitude towards others also played into his fate.
holier than thou in what way?

if they had not floated the idea that he was a pedophile, would he have been booted by disney? do you really believe that?
I think he is a toxic person on multiple levels, and does not fit with the Disney culture. His general attitude definitely contributed to his release.

In your statement, who is "they"? Because I believe it was his own words, right?
people made accusations against him based on his posts, yeah. he got booted because of claims of being an abuser with no proof to that. that is what contributed to his release.
Did he not claim to be a pedophile? Did he not make holocaust jokes?

We are literally talking about this in a thread that is about holding a man accountable for alleged actions 36 years ago. Are you saying that we should not hold Gunn accountable for his actual proven actions just a few years ago?

Re: Kavanaugh Debacle

Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2018 10:44 pm
by zombie
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
DancesWithWerewolves wrote:
No, nothing legal brought forth because there's nothing, but the story got out there and of course the public lynch mob lumped him with Weinstein and Cosby. But I thought his accusation sounded close to what Foo was talking about.
the internet jumped on gunn for being at a to catch a predator themed party and making jokes about pedophilia. again, that's the internet for you.
Gunn's holier than thou attitude towards others also played into his fate.
holier than thou in what way?

if they had not floated the idea that he was a pedophile, would he have been booted by disney? do you really believe that?
I think he is a toxic person on multiple levels, and does not fit with the Disney culture. His general attitude definitely contributed to his release.

In your statement, who is "they"? Because I believe it was his own words, right?
people made accusations against him based on his posts, yeah. he got booted because of claims of being an abuser with no proof to that. that is what contributed to his release.
Did he not claim to be a pedophile? Did he not make holocaust jokes?

We are literally talking about this in a thread that is about holding a man accountable for alleged actions 36 years ago. Are you saying that we should not hold Gunn accountable for his actual proven actions just a few years ago?
i mean sure let's take anyone who joked about doing something to have actually done that thing. there's no issue there.

Re: Kavanaugh Debacle

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 12:38 am
by Foo
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
DancesWithWerewolves wrote:
No, nothing legal brought forth because there's nothing, but the story got out there and of course the public lynch mob lumped him with Weinstein and Cosby. But I thought his accusation sounded close to what Foo was talking about.
the internet jumped on gunn for being at a to catch a predator themed party and making jokes about pedophilia. again, that's the internet for you.
Gunn's holier than thou attitude towards others also played into his fate.
holier than thou in what way?

if they had not floated the idea that he was a pedophile, would he have been booted by disney? do you really believe that?
I think he is a toxic person on multiple levels, and does not fit with the Disney culture. His general attitude definitely contributed to his release.

In your statement, who is "they"? Because I believe it was his own words, right?
people made accusations against him based on his posts, yeah. he got booted because of claims of being an abuser with no proof to that. that is what contributed to his release.
Did he not claim to be a pedophile? Did he not make holocaust jokes?

We are literally talking about this in a thread that is about holding a man accountable for alleged actions 36 years ago. Are you saying that we should not hold Gunn accountable for his actual proven actions just a few years ago?
i mean sure let's take anyone who joked about doing something to have actually done that thing. there's no issue there.
Just curious, how often do you joke about molesting children?

Do you not see why Disney, of all the companies in the world, would not associate with someone who publicly joked about molesting children? I mean, really, just think about that for a moment.

Directors and actors are more than just trades people, they are brand ambassadors. Disney cannot afford a brand ambassador who talks about desires to have sex with children.

Good lord.

Re: Kavanaugh Debacle

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 5:17 am
by zombie
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
DancesWithWerewolves wrote:
No, nothing legal brought forth because there's nothing, but the story got out there and of course the public lynch mob lumped him with Weinstein and Cosby. But I thought his accusation sounded close to what Foo was talking about.
the internet jumped on gunn for being at a to catch a predator themed party and making jokes about pedophilia. again, that's the internet for you.
Gunn's holier than thou attitude towards others also played into his fate.
holier than thou in what way?

if they had not floated the idea that he was a pedophile, would he have been booted by disney? do you really believe that?
I think he is a toxic person on multiple levels, and does not fit with the Disney culture. His general attitude definitely contributed to his release.

In your statement, who is "they"? Because I believe it was his own words, right?
people made accusations against him based on his posts, yeah. he got booted because of claims of being an abuser with no proof to that. that is what contributed to his release.
Did he not claim to be a pedophile? Did he not make holocaust jokes?

We are literally talking about this in a thread that is about holding a man accountable for alleged actions 36 years ago. Are you saying that we should not hold Gunn accountable for his actual proven actions just a few years ago?
i mean sure let's take anyone who joked about doing something to have actually done that thing. there's no issue there.
Just curious, how often do you joke about molesting children?

Do you not see why Disney, of all the companies in the world, would not associate with someone who publicly joked about molesting children? I mean, really, just think about that for a moment.

Directors and actors are more than just trades people, they are brand ambassadors. Disney cannot afford a brand ambassador who talks about desires to have sex with children.

Good lord.
disney hired him, knowing that he tweeted those jokes. knowing his background in troma and in other films with gross humor. and fired him after internet pressure brought on solely by people who didn't like his politics. if that's where we are now, so be it.

Re: Kavanaugh Debacle

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 9:24 am
by Foo
Correction, they chose to fire him by their own free will. Don't blame others.

How do you know what they knew prior to hiring him? Is it not possible they hired him based upon viewing previous work and from recommendations, and learned of his pedophilia talk right before firing him? Is it possible they did not concern themselves with reading his twitter?

Re: Kavanaugh Debacle

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 9:26 am
by Foo
And pedofilia is now a political thing? Has the entire left jumped behind NAMBLA?

Kids are molested, kids watch Disney stuff along with their parents. How do you think his jokes play among them? Think that played into it?

Re: Kavanaugh Debacle

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 10:17 am
by zombie
you know you're right.

Re: Kavanaugh Debacle

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 10:21 am
by Jigsaw
"Has the entire left jumped behind NAMBLA?"

Nice. Now anyone slightly left of center automatically supports child abuse. Got to love the simplistic views of conservatives.

Re: Kavanaugh Debacle

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 10:31 am
by zombie
i think foo is feigning ignorance about gunn's situation, and choosing to smear his friends to win an argument.

Re: Kavanaugh Debacle

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 10:42 am
by Foo
Jigsaw wrote:"Has the entire left jumped behind NAMBLA?"

Nice. Now anyone slightly left of center automatically supports child abuse. Got to love the simplistic views of conservatives.
Hint: NAMBLA is leftist.

Additional hint: it is being encouraged to look the other way while an employee of Disney associated himself with child molestation.

Re: Kavanaugh Debacle

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 10:44 am
by Foo
zombie wrote:i think foo is feigning ignorance about gunn's situation, and choosing to smear his friends to win an argument.
Foo smeared no one. You implied standing against his past actions are wrong. Kinda rings hollow when wanting to hold others accountable, no?

Re: Kavanaugh Debacle

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 10:50 am
by zombie
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:i think foo is feigning ignorance about gunn's situation, and choosing to smear his friends to win an argument.
Foo smeared no one. You implied standing against his past actions are wrong. Kinda rings hollow when wanting to hold others accountable, no?
no. i'm flat out saying that it's wrong to imply someone is a pedophile,simply for having made jokes about pedophilia.

Re: Kavanaugh Debacle

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 10:54 am
by zombie
it would also be wrong to accuse someone of infanticide because they made deadbaby jokes. it would be wrong to imply someone was a murderer because they joked about killing someone. etc.

Re: Kavanaugh Debacle

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 11:01 am
by Jigsaw
Foo wrote:
Jigsaw wrote:"Has the entire left jumped behind NAMBLA?"

Nice. Now anyone slightly left of center automatically supports child abuse. Got to love the simplistic views of conservatives.
Hint: NAMBLA is leftist.

Additional hint: it is being encouraged to look the other way while an employee of Disney associated himself with child molestation.
Hint: Neo-Nazis are right-wing, which means everyone on the right must support what neo-nazis do.

See, I can over-generalize too.

Re: Kavanaugh Debacle

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 11:50 am
by Foo
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:i think foo is feigning ignorance about gunn's situation, and choosing to smear his friends to win an argument.
Foo smeared no one. You implied standing against his past actions are wrong. Kinda rings hollow when wanting to hold others accountable, no?
no. i'm flat out saying that it's wrong to imply someone is a pedophile,simply for having made jokes about pedophilia.
How do you know his statement was a joke? How is Disney supposed to know? When someone makes a racist remark and says they are just joking, does that count too?

Re: Kavanaugh Debacle

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 11:52 am
by Foo
Jigsaw wrote:
Foo wrote:
Jigsaw wrote:"Has the entire left jumped behind NAMBLA?"

Nice. Now anyone slightly left of center automatically supports child abuse. Got to love the simplistic views of conservatives.
Hint: NAMBLA is leftist.

Additional hint: it is being encouraged to look the other way while an employee of Disney associated himself with child molestation.
Hint: Neo-Nazis are right-wing, which means everyone on the right must support what neo-nazis do.

See, I can over-generalize too.
Zombie said James Gunn's firing is political. He was fired for statements endorsing pedofilia. This would imply only one side was against it.

Re: Kavanaugh Debacle

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 11:55 am
by Jmac Attack
NAMBLA is leftist? I thought all people hated them? Are guys who run boy scouts and molest little 7 year old kids lefties? Catholic priests? Ugh. Gotta love it these days. You are either right or left. Divide and conquer. I used to subscribe to that shit too. My favorite is when my racist former Democrat (now Trump supporters) uncles share videos on Facebook, showing black dudes saying leftists are the "real racists", etc, but would disown their daughters for dating a black or slightly darker dude. They also throw the N word around and think blacks should have their own part of our country or go "back to Africa" as if all black people that came here are from Kenya or some shit. Do I blame Trump for their behavior? No. They're racist motherfuckers plain and simple.

Wanna see bat shit crazy conservatives? Watch some of those mega church videos. I live by one of the biggest. But I don't say conservatism is a mental disorder. We all have our weirdos.

Re: Kavanaugh Debacle

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 11:57 am
by Jmac Attack
Foo wrote:
Jigsaw wrote:
Foo wrote:
Jigsaw wrote:"Has the entire left jumped behind NAMBLA?"

Nice. Now anyone slightly left of center automatically supports child abuse. Got to love the simplistic views of conservatives.
Hint: NAMBLA is leftist.

Additional hint: it is being encouraged to look the other way while an employee of Disney associated himself with child molestation.
Hint: Neo-Nazis are right-wing, which means everyone on the right must support what neo-nazis do.

See, I can over-generalize too.
Zombie said James Gunn's firing is political. He was fired for statements endorsing pedofilia. This would imply only one side was against it.
Ahhhhhh.....I gotta go back and read, my brotha. Gotta watch football first!