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Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:22 am
by zombie
Headhunter wrote:Because what we really need is to pay more attention to the rioters. The media hadn’t done enough of that yet.
they need to focus more on bad cops, obviously. does that mean turn a blind eye to anything and everything that looters or rioters do, even as just individuals and not reporters with a platform and large following?

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:29 am
by Headhunter
zombie wrote:
Headhunter wrote:Because what we really need is to pay more attention to the rioters. The media hadn’t done enough of that yet.
they need to focus more on bad cops, obviously. does that mean turn a blind eye to anything and everything that looters or rioters do, even as just individuals and not reporters with a platform and large following?
The people you’re talking about are by nature criminals. That’s what they do. Obviously criminals should be punished for the crimes they commit. And they are. Cops aren’t.

Would it really make sense to say “Cops need to stop killing innocent people, but criminals also need to stop committing crimes”?

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:33 am
by Jmac Attack
I know people that know this guy. He is not antifa. Dude was helping to pay for water. https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-tweets ... 37091.html

Our president is a danger and enemy of the American people.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:36 am
by zombie
Headhunter wrote:
zombie wrote:
Headhunter wrote:Because what we really need is to pay more attention to the rioters. The media hadn’t done enough of that yet.
they need to focus more on bad cops, obviously. does that mean turn a blind eye to anything and everything that looters or rioters do, even as just individuals and not reporters with a platform and large following?
The people you’re talking about are by nature criminals. That’s what they do. Obviously criminals should be punished for the crimes they commit. And they are. Cops aren’t.

Would it really make sense to say “Cops need to stop killing innocent people, but criminals also need to stop committing crimes”?
some people are saying that it is justified or acceptable to break the law. is it wrong for me to counter that?

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:43 am
by zombie
Jmac Attack wrote:I know people that know this guy. He is not antifa. Dude was helping to pay for water. https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-tweets ... 37091.html

Our president is a danger and enemy of the American people.
indeed. witch hunt should not be part of the president's job.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:47 am
by Headhunter
zombie wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
zombie wrote:
Headhunter wrote:Because what we really need is to pay more attention to the rioters. The media hadn’t done enough of that yet.
they need to focus more on bad cops, obviously. does that mean turn a blind eye to anything and everything that looters or rioters do, even as just individuals and not reporters with a platform and large following?
The people you’re talking about are by nature criminals. That’s what they do. Obviously criminals should be punished for the crimes they commit. And they are. Cops aren’t.

Would it really make sense to say “Cops need to stop killing innocent people, but criminals also need to stop committing crimes”?
some people are saying that it is justified or acceptable to break the law. is it wrong for me to counter that?
Is it never justified to break the law? You can do whatever you want.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:51 am
by zombie
Headhunter wrote:
zombie wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
zombie wrote:
Headhunter wrote:Because what we really need is to pay more attention to the rioters. The media hadn’t done enough of that yet.
they need to focus more on bad cops, obviously. does that mean turn a blind eye to anything and everything that looters or rioters do, even as just individuals and not reporters with a platform and large following?
The people you’re talking about are by nature criminals. That’s what they do. Obviously criminals should be punished for the crimes they commit. And they are. Cops aren’t.

Would it really make sense to say “Cops need to stop killing innocent people, but criminals also need to stop committing crimes”?
some people are saying that it is justified or acceptable to break the law. is it wrong for me to counter that?
Is it never justified to break the law? You can do whatever you want.
if you're gonna justify breaking the law in vague terms, then you should be clear what you're justifying and what you're not. but you can do whatever you want.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:53 am
by Headhunter
zombie wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
zombie wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
zombie wrote:
Headhunter wrote:Because what we really need is to pay more attention to the rioters. The media hadn’t done enough of that yet.
they need to focus more on bad cops, obviously. does that mean turn a blind eye to anything and everything that looters or rioters do, even as just individuals and not reporters with a platform and large following?
The people you’re talking about are by nature criminals. That’s what they do. Obviously criminals should be punished for the crimes they commit. And they are. Cops aren’t.

Would it really make sense to say “Cops need to stop killing innocent people, but criminals also need to stop committing crimes”?
some people are saying that it is justified or acceptable to break the law. is it wrong for me to counter that?
Is it never justified to break the law? You can do whatever you want.
if you're gonna justify breaking the law in vague terms, then you should be clear what you're justifying and what you're not. but you can do whatever you want.
I was only responding to the vague terms you used. You could have been more specific.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:19 pm
by zombie
Headhunter wrote:
zombie wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
zombie wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
zombie wrote:
Headhunter wrote:Because what we really need is to pay more attention to the rioters. The media hadn’t done enough of that yet.
they need to focus more on bad cops, obviously. does that mean turn a blind eye to anything and everything that looters or rioters do, even as just individuals and not reporters with a platform and large following?
The people you’re talking about are by nature criminals. That’s what they do. Obviously criminals should be punished for the crimes they commit. And they are. Cops aren’t.

Would it really make sense to say “Cops need to stop killing innocent people, but criminals also need to stop committing crimes”?
some people are saying that it is justified or acceptable to break the law. is it wrong for me to counter that?
Is it never justified to break the law? You can do whatever you want.
if you're gonna justify breaking the law in vague terms, then you should be clear what you're justifying and what you're not. but you can do whatever you want.
I was only responding to the vague terms you used. You could have been more specific.
i think i've been fairly clear about my position, in this regard.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:34 pm
by Headhunter
zombie wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
zombie wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
zombie wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
zombie wrote:
Headhunter wrote:Because what we really need is to pay more attention to the rioters. The media hadn’t done enough of that yet.
they need to focus more on bad cops, obviously. does that mean turn a blind eye to anything and everything that looters or rioters do, even as just individuals and not reporters with a platform and large following?
The people you’re talking about are by nature criminals. That’s what they do. Obviously criminals should be punished for the crimes they commit. And they are. Cops aren’t.

Would it really make sense to say “Cops need to stop killing innocent people, but criminals also need to stop committing crimes”?
some people are saying that it is justified or acceptable to break the law. is it wrong for me to counter that?
Is it never justified to break the law? You can do whatever you want.
if you're gonna justify breaking the law in vague terms, then you should be clear what you're justifying and what you're not. but you can do whatever you want.
I was only responding to the vague terms you used. You could have been more specific.
i think i've been fairly clear about my position, in this regard.
I’m talking about the “some people are saying that it is justified or acceptable to break the law” part. Those were your vague terms, not mine.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:44 pm
by zombie
Headhunter wrote: I’m talking about the “some people are saying that it is justified or acceptable to break the law” part. Those were your vague terms, not mine.
trevor noah, i believe?, is talking about "the social contract is no longer valid" then i don't know how to be very specific, when he's not being specific. what is justified or excused or accepted with that?

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:10 pm
by Headhunter
zombie wrote:
Headhunter wrote: I’m talking about the “some people are saying that it is justified or acceptable to break the law” part. Those were your vague terms, not mine.
trevor noah, i believe?, is talking about "the social contract is no longer valid" then i don't know how to be very specific, when he's not being specific. what is justified or excused or accepted with that?
When law enforcement ceases to enforce the law, we can only rely on our individual morals to guide us.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:21 pm
by zombie
Headhunter wrote:
zombie wrote:
Headhunter wrote: I’m talking about the “some people are saying that it is justified or acceptable to break the law” part. Those were your vague terms, not mine.
trevor noah, i believe?, is talking about "the social contract is no longer valid" then i don't know how to be very specific, when he's not being specific. what is justified or excused or accepted with that?
When law enforcement ceases to enforce the law, we can only rely on our individual morals to guide us.
agreed but, in that context, there isn't much to discuss or debate unless you want to try to tell someone else what their morals should be.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:25 pm
by zombie
also, this movement toward no more undue police violence kind of relies on still having some kind of law and order. but just that it needs some repairing or restructuring.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:51 pm
by Reign in Blood
And what this shows more and more is that most of us have been good. But you have to cage the animals. And that's an ugly thing.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:10 pm
by Reign in Blood
You ever see lions or tigers try and "cage" one of their own, one that misbehaved in the pack? It's brutal. And usually only a cub will survive, if an alpha lets it. Humans are supposed to be so much better though. Were not.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:29 pm
by Headhunter
Finally all of the cops involved in the Floyd murder have been charged. And Chauvin’s charge has been upgraded to second degree.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:40 pm
by Reign in Blood
Headhunter wrote:Finally all of the cops involved in the Floyd murder have been charged. And Chauvin’s charge has been upgraded to second degree.
Finally the Rock has come back to stop these people from breaking shit?

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:58 pm
by Headhunter
Reign in Blood wrote:
Headhunter wrote:Finally all of the cops involved in the Floyd murder have been charged. And Chauvin’s charge has been upgraded to second degree.
Finally the Rock has come back to stop these people from breaking shit?
Why go out of your way to make that the story?

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:06 pm
by Headhunter
The story worth talking about is millions of people both in this country and around the world protesting the racial injustice and terrible policing in this country. Not gonna let people hijack that narrative because a combo of undercover law enforcement, white supremacists and far left anarchists want to break shit for different reasons.