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Re: NFL 2017 season

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 4:22 pm
by showa58taro
We clearly look for different things in QBs.

Re: NFL 2017 season

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 5:01 pm
by Tiggnutz
Jason wrote:
Foo wrote:
Jason wrote:A QB not even in the top ten has five ringz.
Gonna go out on a limb here and say your guy probably makes as many mistakes in a bad game as Brady makes in a good season.
Pretty close. Won't argue it. Siemian would have five rings with New England too, so that is pretty irrelevant, though.
You're obviously high

Re: NFL 2017 season

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 5:02 pm
by Headhunter
Don't blame the weed :cry:

Re: NFL 2017 season

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 5:06 pm
by Tiggnutz
Headhunter wrote:Don't blame the weed :cry:
Brother that means the weed is great when you think goofy shit like that.

Re: NFL 2017 season

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 5:16 pm
by Jason
showa58taro wrote:We clearly look for different things in QBs.
The only difference is recognizing the importance of the overall team. Players, coaches, systems, all make each other perform differently. In the case of N.E., they have a ferrari, and it is very nice. In the case of Denver, they have a pretty decent Chevy Aveo with a working engine, but the transmission is having major issues, it won't go past 2nd gear. A real shame. Not to mention the wheels fell off 7 games ago.

Put Betty White in the ferrari and Jeff Gordon in the Aveo. Who's gonna win a race to the next stoplight?
CONCLUSION
Betty White is the greatest driver of all time.

Re: NFL 2017 season

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:30 pm
by Foo
Jason wrote:
showa58taro wrote:We clearly look for different things in QBs.
The only difference is recognizing the importance of the overall team. Players, coaches, systems, all make each other perform differently. In the case of N.E., they have a ferrari, and it is very nice. In the case of Denver, they have a pretty decent Chevy Aveo with a working engine, but the transmission is having major issues, it won't go past 2nd gear. A real shame. Not to mention the wheels fell off 7 games ago.

Put Betty White in the ferrari and Jeff Gordon in the Aveo. Who's gonna win a race to the next stoplight?
CONCLUSION
Betty White is the greatest driver of all time.
Or, Betty White gets confused, throws it in reverse and mows down half the crowd before slamming into a wall and turning the car into an inferno, while Jeff Gordon fixes the car and crosses the finish line.

Re: NFL 2017 season

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:32 pm
by Foo
Can someone photoshop Eli Manning into a Broncos jersey please? I need to see what that looks like.

Re: NFL 2017 season

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:38 pm
by Jason
Foo wrote:
Jason wrote:
showa58taro wrote:We clearly look for different things in QBs.
The only difference is recognizing the importance of the overall team. Players, coaches, systems, all make each other perform differently. In the case of N.E., they have a ferrari, and it is very nice. In the case of Denver, they have a pretty decent Chevy Aveo with a working engine, but the transmission is having major issues, it won't go past 2nd gear. A real shame. Not to mention the wheels fell off 7 games ago.

Put Betty White in the ferrari and Jeff Gordon in the Aveo. Who's gonna win a race to the next stoplight?
CONCLUSION
Betty White is the greatest driver of all time.
Or, Betty White gets confused, throws it in reverse and mows down half the crowd before slamming into a wall and turning the car into an inferno, while Jeff Gordon fixes the car and crosses the finish line.
Or, she puts it in first gear and cruises to an easy win. Lots of variables, aren't there?

Re: NFL 2017 season

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:46 pm
by Foo
Jason wrote:
Foo wrote:
Jason wrote:
showa58taro wrote:We clearly look for different things in QBs.
The only difference is recognizing the importance of the overall team. Players, coaches, systems, all make each other perform differently. In the case of N.E., they have a ferrari, and it is very nice. In the case of Denver, they have a pretty decent Chevy Aveo with a working engine, but the transmission is having major issues, it won't go past 2nd gear. A real shame. Not to mention the wheels fell off 7 games ago.

Put Betty White in the ferrari and Jeff Gordon in the Aveo. Who's gonna win a race to the next stoplight?
CONCLUSION
Betty White is the greatest driver of all time.
Or, Betty White gets confused, throws it in reverse and mows down half the crowd before slamming into a wall and turning the car into an inferno, while Jeff Gordon fixes the car and crosses the finish line.
Lots of variables, aren't there?
Of course, I would never say otherwise. It is also a truth that having a top QB pretty much guarantees 10-11 wins in the league. So having that makes it so much easier to have a good team. Your guy may have potential, but he is not playing like a top QB. The Broncos are getting dangerously close to being a tire fire, and hopelessness at QB certainly plays a big part of that.

Re: NFL 2017 season

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 7:19 pm
by Jason
Foo wrote:
Jason wrote:
Foo wrote:
Jason wrote:
showa58taro wrote:We clearly look for different things in QBs.
The only difference is recognizing the importance of the overall team. Players, coaches, systems, all make each other perform differently. In the case of N.E., they have a ferrari, and it is very nice. In the case of Denver, they have a pretty decent Chevy Aveo with a working engine, but the transmission is having major issues, it won't go past 2nd gear. A real shame. Not to mention the wheels fell off 7 games ago.

Put Betty White in the ferrari and Jeff Gordon in the Aveo. Who's gonna win a race to the next stoplight?
CONCLUSION
Betty White is the greatest driver of all time.
Or, Betty White gets confused, throws it in reverse and mows down half the crowd before slamming into a wall and turning the car into an inferno, while Jeff Gordon fixes the car and crosses the finish line.
Lots of variables, aren't there?
Of course, I would never say otherwise. It is also a truth that having a top QB pretty much guarantees 10-11 wins in the league. So having that makes it so much easier to have a good team. Your guy may have potential, but he is not playing like a top QB. The Broncos are getting dangerously close to being a tire fire, and hopelessness at QB certainly plays a big part of that.
Nah. Stafford is a top 1-3 QB and the Lions rarely get 11 wins.

Re: NFL 2017 season

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 7:30 pm
by Foo
Jason wrote:
Foo wrote:
Jason wrote:
Foo wrote:
Jason wrote:
showa58taro wrote:We clearly look for different things in QBs.
The only difference is recognizing the importance of the overall team. Players, coaches, systems, all make each other perform differently. In the case of N.E., they have a ferrari, and it is very nice. In the case of Denver, they have a pretty decent Chevy Aveo with a working engine, but the transmission is having major issues, it won't go past 2nd gear. A real shame. Not to mention the wheels fell off 7 games ago.

Put Betty White in the ferrari and Jeff Gordon in the Aveo. Who's gonna win a race to the next stoplight?
CONCLUSION
Betty White is the greatest driver of all time.
Or, Betty White gets confused, throws it in reverse and mows down half the crowd before slamming into a wall and turning the car into an inferno, while Jeff Gordon fixes the car and crosses the finish line.
Lots of variables, aren't there?
Of course, I would never say otherwise. It is also a truth that having a top QB pretty much guarantees 10-11 wins in the league. So having that makes it so much easier to have a good team. Your guy may have potential, but he is not playing like a top QB. The Broncos are getting dangerously close to being a tire fire, and hopelessness at QB certainly plays a big part of that.
Nah. Stafford is a top 1-3 QB and the Lions rarely get 11 wins.
Uh, who puts Stafford in their top 3? In the 9 years he has been in the league, he has been to 1 Pro Bowl. that year, there were ten Pro Bowl QBs. TEN! Most years there are like 8 and he still doesn't make it.

Re: NFL 2017 season

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 7:38 pm
by Headhunter
Stafford in the top 3, lol get the fuck out of here. He is in that "above average" 10-15 tier.

That said, the Lions misuse him as much as much as any team misuses a player. Strongest arm in the league and they run a system built for an Alex Smith type:

Re: NFL 2017 season

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 7:44 pm
by Headhunter
Foo wrote:Can someone photoshop Eli Manning into a Broncos jersey please? I need to see what that looks like.
Ew. I bet he is Jacksonville-bound with Coughlin being VP and an amazing defense intact for a couple more years.

Denver isn't competing for anything in the near future. They need to draft a guy.

Re: NFL 2017 season

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 7:47 pm
by Tiggnutz
Giants shit all over Eli. For Geno Smith :x

Re: NFL 2017 season

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 7:52 pm
by Jason
Foo wrote:
Jason wrote:
Foo wrote:
Jason wrote:
Foo wrote:
Jason wrote:
showa58taro wrote:We clearly look for different things in QBs.
The only difference is recognizing the importance of the overall team. Players, coaches, systems, all make each other perform differently. In the case of N.E., they have a ferrari, and it is very nice. In the case of Denver, they have a pretty decent Chevy Aveo with a working engine, but the transmission is having major issues, it won't go past 2nd gear. A real shame. Not to mention the wheels fell off 7 games ago.

Put Betty White in the ferrari and Jeff Gordon in the Aveo. Who's gonna win a race to the next stoplight?
CONCLUSION
Betty White is the greatest driver of all time.
Or, Betty White gets confused, throws it in reverse and mows down half the crowd before slamming into a wall and turning the car into an inferno, while Jeff Gordon fixes the car and crosses the finish line.
Lots of variables, aren't there?
Of course, I would never say otherwise. It is also a truth that having a top QB pretty much guarantees 10-11 wins in the league. So having that makes it so much easier to have a good team. Your guy may have potential, but he is not playing like a top QB. The Broncos are getting dangerously close to being a tire fire, and hopelessness at QB certainly plays a big part of that.
Nah. Stafford is a top 1-3 QB and the Lions rarely get 11 wins.
Uh, who puts Stafford in their top 3? In the 9 years he has been in the league, he has been to 1 Pro Bowl. that year, there were ten Pro Bowl QBs. TEN! Most years there are like 8 and he still doesn't make it.
I didn't realize a fan-based, popularity-contest voting system indicated QB greatness. Who won the most QB challenges in the 80s and 90s? Those gotta be the best QB grading methods. 100% 100%

Re: NFL 2017 season

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 7:54 pm
by Jason
Tiggnutz wrote:Giants shit all over Eli. For Geno Smith :x
Fucked up move. Worst way to end that consecutive start streak. Not even in playoff contention, not even benched for a rookie up-and-comer. Dick move.

Re: NFL 2017 season

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:08 pm
by Headhunter
Tiggnutz wrote:Giants shit all over Eli. For Geno Smith :x
They should just cut him now. They've already telegraphed that they're tanking for a QB next year, seems cruel to keep him around at this point.

Re: NFL 2017 season

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:26 pm
by Foo

Re: NFL 2017 season

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:29 pm
by Foo
Jason wrote:
Foo wrote:
Jason wrote:
Foo wrote:
Jason wrote:
Foo wrote:
Jason wrote:
showa58taro wrote:We clearly look for different things in QBs.
The only difference is recognizing the importance of the overall team. Players, coaches, systems, all make each other perform differently. In the case of N.E., they have a ferrari, and it is very nice. In the case of Denver, they have a pretty decent Chevy Aveo with a working engine, but the transmission is having major issues, it won't go past 2nd gear. A real shame. Not to mention the wheels fell off 7 games ago.

Put Betty White in the ferrari and Jeff Gordon in the Aveo. Who's gonna win a race to the next stoplight?
CONCLUSION
Betty White is the greatest driver of all time.
Or, Betty White gets confused, throws it in reverse and mows down half the crowd before slamming into a wall and turning the car into an inferno, while Jeff Gordon fixes the car and crosses the finish line.
Lots of variables, aren't there?
Of course, I would never say otherwise. It is also a truth that having a top QB pretty much guarantees 10-11 wins in the league. So having that makes it so much easier to have a good team. Your guy may have potential, but he is not playing like a top QB. The Broncos are getting dangerously close to being a tire fire, and hopelessness at QB certainly plays a big part of that.
Nah. Stafford is a top 1-3 QB and the Lions rarely get 11 wins.
Uh, who puts Stafford in their top 3? In the 9 years he has been in the league, he has been to 1 Pro Bowl. that year, there were ten Pro Bowl QBs. TEN! Most years there are like 8 and he still doesn't make it.
I didn't realize a fan-based, popularity-contest voting system indicated QB greatness. Who won the most QB challenges in the 80s and 90s? Those gotta be the best QB grading methods. 100% 100%
They are voted by coaches, players, and fans. Not saying they are accurate grading methods, I am saying that in his decade in the league, he has only been selected one time to be among the top 25-30% of the league QBs and you are claiming he is top 3.

Re: NFL 2017 season

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:37 pm
by Jason
I put him at two behind Rodgers. The Lions are not a popular team, therefore, fewer votes. Case Keenum will probably make the Pro Bowl. Think he's the reason the Vikings are 9-2?