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I'd really like to beat the shit out of that cunt John Elway with a baseball bat. Is that too much to ask?

Sandy Clough, who is the most respected Broncos radio guy in Denver, says everyone around the NFL hates Elway and all the players want out.

No surprise there.

Headhunter wrote:Sandy Clough, who is the most respected Broncos radio guy in Denver, says everyone around the NFL hates Elway and all the players want out.

No surprise there.

Good lord. How did this happen so quickly? The dude was just bargaining for chunks of team ownership this summer.

Foo wrote:

Headhunter wrote:Sandy Clough, who is the most respected Broncos radio guy in Denver, says everyone around the NFL hates Elway and all the players want out.

No surprise there.

Good lord. How did this happen so quickly? The dude was just bargaining for chunks of team ownership this summer.

The chickens have come home to roost. He bet big on a village idiot to coach the team, invested in three terrible quarterbacks and his Day 2 draft busts caught up with him. Not sure which franchise is in worse position than Denver going forward, they basically have drunk Matt Millen running the show and haven't drafted a Pro Bowler since 2011.

Headhunter wrote:

Foo wrote:

Headhunter wrote:Sandy Clough, who is the most respected Broncos radio guy in Denver, says everyone around the NFL hates Elway and all the players want out.

No surprise there.

Good lord. How did this happen so quickly? The dude was just bargaining for chunks of team ownership this summer.

The chickens have come home to roost. He bet big on a village idiot to coach the team, invested in three terrible quarterbacks and his Day 2 draft busts caught up with him. Not sure which franchise is in worse position than Denver going forward, they basically have drunk Matt Millen running the show and haven't drafted a Pro Bowler since 2011.

As an outsider, it is just shocking how they have given up. I get that he apparently missed on a high QB pick and the coach is iffy, but I was not expecting this. Have also wondered why they did not go after Kyle Shanahan.

Also, Vance Joseph was frat bros with our college scouting director Matt Russell, who is not only a known alcoholic, but aldo a holdover from the McDaniels era and a proven terrible talent evaluator. It's the good ol boys club in Denver and Elway will stay loyal to anyone who can pound shots with him. Makes me sick.

Foo wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Foo wrote:

Headhunter wrote:Sandy Clough, who is the most respected Broncos radio guy in Denver, says everyone around the NFL hates Elway and all the players want out.

No surprise there.

Good lord. How did this happen so quickly? The dude was just bargaining for chunks of team ownership this summer.

The chickens have come home to roost. He bet big on a village idiot to coach the team, invested in three terrible quarterbacks and his Day 2 draft busts caught up with him. Not sure which franchise is in worse position than Denver going forward, they basically have drunk Matt Millen running the show and haven't drafted a Pro Bowler since 2011.

As an outsider, it is just shocking how they have given up. I get that he apparently missed on a high QB pick and the coach is iffy, but I was not expecting this. Have also wondered why they did not go after Kyle Shanahan.

They did. It was between Lil Shanny, Village Idiot Vance and Dave Toub, who was the special teams coordinator for all those years in Chicago. Most of us wanted Lil Shanny given the offense was what needed to be fixed, instead Elway went with "his guy".

Interesting note: Elway tried to hire Vance as DC in 2015 after firing Del Rio, but Cincy wouldn't allow him to interview so he "settled" for Wade Phillips, whose defense was the reason the Broncos won a Super Bowl.

"Broncos fans thought Paxton Lynch was bad against the Oakland Raiders. Captain Derp said, “hold my beer.” "

- funny quote in some random blog

I don't know how much it played into the decision but Elway and Mike Shanahan haven't been on good terms in at least 15 years. Mike denied Elway the chance to join the front office before he invested in the arena team. Elway cheating on his ex-wife was also a point of contention because the Shanahans were close with her.

Elway has burned a lot of bridges across the league and he has a tendency to shoot from the hip with his decisions.

Foo wrote:"Broncos fans thought Paxton Lynch was bad against the Oakland Raiders. Captain Derp said, “hold my beer.” "

- funny quote in some random blog

I can't remember a season of more destructive QB play. It's just a comedy of errors every week. Osweiler really wasn't that bad, relatively speaking.

He will most likely end up a Jaguar but Eli might be a good fit in Denver since they need to win now before that defense breaks up.

Tiggnutz wrote:He will most likely end up a Jaguar but Eli might be a good fit in Denver since they need to win now before that defense breaks up.

Re-Manning-ing the offense. lol.

Not sure how Eli elevates a shitty offense. He's washed.

Headhunter wrote:Not sure how Eli elevates a shitty offense. He's washed.

Improve the line with the draft and a few free agents. Eli is playing better than Payton was when you won it all.

There is also a strong possibility the defense is in decline. I would not be patchworking a team hoping a defense suddenly returns to form of years ago.

Tiggnutz wrote:

Headhunter wrote:Not sure how Eli elevates a shitty offense. He's washed.

Improve the line with the draft and a few free agents. Eli is playing better than Payton was when you won it all.

The defense was other-worldly in 2015. Not gonna replicate that with no DeMarcus Ware, Malik Jackson, T.J. Ward etc.

Yeah it's so hard to stay elite really makes you appreciate how they do things in New England.

What, cheat? Lol.

Yup, can't stay on top forever. You also can't live in the past and be sentimental about former glory. This requires moves like firing John Elway, who will keep the Broncos bad for a decade.

Jason wrote:What, cheat? Lol.

I lol'd.