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Re: Why I grew to love the Donald and forgive his haters
Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 9:00 pm
by Headhunter
Jason wrote:Headhunter wrote:Also, the "white identitarianism" Jason mentioned earlier is bullshit. They are racist hate groups without the balls to admit it. Funny how they spend so much more time shouting down immigrants and minorities rather than promoting the aspects of "white culture" they claim their school of thought to be centered around. It's just slightly intellectualized bigotry, nothing more. Mostly young people radicalized through 4chan, Reddit and YouTube over the years.
The rise of these white identitarians (yes, some racist!) should be a shock to no one. After years of disenfranchising whites, treating them like a borg of hive-mind racists, singling them out in media and pop culture; the rise of white nationalism is the only type of retaliation to expect, if we're being honest.
Really, the "They made us do it" defense? Most of the people who use that rationalization are domestic abusers and sociopaths, so that doesn't speak well to those folks.
It's just all kinds of sly, runaround, indirect ways to justify ideas of white supremacy, and it's cowardly of them to act like their bigotry is somehow someone else's fault. The marginalization on their part is just a projected lack of self-confidence.
Re: Why I grew to love the Donald and forgive his haters
Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 9:03 pm
by Headhunter
White people don't face a stacked deck just for being white. Black people do face a stacked deck just for being black. And everyone who's poor faces a stacked deck. The supposed inequality these white dudes whine about is not real. Feels like a lot of people who are angry that a more diverse world means it's harder to be mediocre and successful.
Re: Why I grew to love the Donald and forgive his haters
Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 9:04 pm
by zombie
Jason wrote:Headhunter wrote:Also, the "white identitarianism" Jason mentioned earlier is bullshit. They are racist hate groups without the balls to admit it. Funny how they spend so much more time shouting down immigrants and minorities rather than promoting the aspects of "white culture" they claim their school of thought to be centered around. It's just slightly intellectualized bigotry, nothing more. Mostly young people radicalized through 4chan, Reddit and YouTube over the years.
The rise of these white identitarians (yes, some racist!) should be a shock to no one. After years of disenfranchising whites, treating them like a borg of hive-mind racists, singling them out in media and pop culture; the rise of white nationalism is the only type of retaliation to expect, if we're being honest.
if we're being honest, you would be the first, here, to come down on someone for arguing similarly for any other race.
rascism doesn't deserve to be made excuses for. it shouldn't be something that is attempted to make sympathetic or understandable.
Re: Why I grew to love the Donald and forgive his haters
Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 9:07 pm
by Headhunter
zombie wrote:Jason wrote:Headhunter wrote:Also, the "white identitarianism" Jason mentioned earlier is bullshit. They are racist hate groups without the balls to admit it. Funny how they spend so much more time shouting down immigrants and minorities rather than promoting the aspects of "white culture" they claim their school of thought to be centered around. It's just slightly intellectualized bigotry, nothing more. Mostly young people radicalized through 4chan, Reddit and YouTube over the years.
The rise of these white identitarians (yes, some racist!) should be a shock to no one. After years of disenfranchising whites, treating them like a borg of hive-mind racists, singling them out in media and pop culture; the rise of white nationalism is the only type of retaliation to expect, if we're being honest.
if we're being honest, you would be the first, here, to come down on someone for arguing similarly for any other race.
rascism doesn't deserve to be made excuses for. it shouldn't be something that is attempted to make sympathetic or understandable.
It's another false equivalence to suggest being accused of racism (if it isn't directed at you personally, why would you take it that way?) is as bad as facing racism.
Re: Why I grew to love the Donald and forgive his haters
Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 9:07 pm
by zombie
i've said before that i do see oppression aimed toward white, straight people. but it's not institutional, the way it is in other cases. still, it should be knocked down. it should be shown for what it is. just like any other attempt at oppression.
Re: Why I grew to love the Donald and forgive his haters
Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 9:14 pm
by Jason
Headhunter wrote:Jason wrote:Headhunter wrote:Also, the "white identitarianism" Jason mentioned earlier is bullshit. They are racist hate groups without the balls to admit it. Funny how they spend so much more time shouting down immigrants and minorities rather than promoting the aspects of "white culture" they claim their school of thought to be centered around. It's just slightly intellectualized bigotry, nothing more. Mostly young people radicalized through 4chan, Reddit and YouTube over the years.
The rise of these white identitarians (yes, some racist!) should be a shock to no one. After years of disenfranchising whites, treating them like a borg of hive-mind racists, singling them out in media and pop culture; the rise of white nationalism is the only type of retaliation to expect, if we're being honest.
Really, the "They made us do it" defense? Most of the people who use that rationalization are domestic abusers and sociopaths, so that doesn't speak well to those folks.
It's just all kinds of sly, runaround, indirect ways to justify ideas of white supremacy, and it's cowardly of them to act like their bigotry is somehow someone else's fault. The marginalization on their part is just a projected lack of self-confidence.
Don't act like that statement isn't true.
Re: Why I grew to love the Donald and forgive his haters
Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 9:20 pm
by Jason
zombie wrote:Jason wrote:Headhunter wrote:Also, the "white identitarianism" Jason mentioned earlier is bullshit. They are racist hate groups without the balls to admit it. Funny how they spend so much more time shouting down immigrants and minorities rather than promoting the aspects of "white culture" they claim their school of thought to be centered around. It's just slightly intellectualized bigotry, nothing more. Mostly young people radicalized through 4chan, Reddit and YouTube over the years.
The rise of these white identitarians (yes, some racist!) should be a shock to no one. After years of disenfranchising whites, treating them like a borg of hive-mind racists, singling them out in media and pop culture; the rise of white nationalism is the only type of retaliation to expect, if we're being honest.
if we're being honest, you would be the first, here, to come down on someone for arguing similarly for any other race.
rascism doesn't deserve to be made excuses for. it shouldn't be something that is attempted to make sympathetic or understandable.
Not
any other race. And I am not making an excuse for the violence that occurred. But when blacks march in groups and chant racial slurs, hold up political rallies and steal the politician's microphone and accuse the audience of being "a bunch of white racists", holding signs that say "white people, just die already" and it is glorified in the media, the rise of white nationalism is to be expected. That is no shit. Not only are you getting the racist white people out of their seats, you're getting the good, honest, kind-hearted white people out there ready to make a stand, as well. Obama started this race war, and everyone knows it.
Re: Why I grew to love the Donald and forgive his haters
Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 9:22 pm
by zombie
Jason wrote:Headhunter wrote:Jason wrote:Headhunter wrote:Also, the "white identitarianism" Jason mentioned earlier is bullshit. They are racist hate groups without the balls to admit it. Funny how they spend so much more time shouting down immigrants and minorities rather than promoting the aspects of "white culture" they claim their school of thought to be centered around. It's just slightly intellectualized bigotry, nothing more. Mostly young people radicalized through 4chan, Reddit and YouTube over the years.
The rise of these white identitarians (yes, some racist!) should be a shock to no one. After years of disenfranchising whites, treating them like a borg of hive-mind racists, singling them out in media and pop culture; the rise of white nationalism is the only type of retaliation to expect, if we're being honest.
Really, the "They made us do it" defense? Most of the people who use that rationalization are domestic abusers and sociopaths, so that doesn't speak well to those folks.
It's just all kinds of sly, runaround, indirect ways to justify ideas of white supremacy, and it's cowardly of them to act like their bigotry is somehow someone else's fault. The marginalization on their part is just a projected lack of self-confidence.
Don't act like that statement isn't true.
who are these identitarians? who are you talking about specifically?
Re: Why I grew to love the Donald and forgive his haters
Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 9:25 pm
by Headhunter
Jason wrote:Headhunter wrote:Jason wrote:Headhunter wrote:Also, the "white identitarianism" Jason mentioned earlier is bullshit. They are racist hate groups without the balls to admit it. Funny how they spend so much more time shouting down immigrants and minorities rather than promoting the aspects of "white culture" they claim their school of thought to be centered around. It's just slightly intellectualized bigotry, nothing more. Mostly young people radicalized through 4chan, Reddit and YouTube over the years.
The rise of these white identitarians (yes, some racist!) should be a shock to no one. After years of disenfranchising whites, treating them like a borg of hive-mind racists, singling them out in media and pop culture; the rise of white nationalism is the only type of retaliation to expect, if we're being honest.
Really, the "They made us do it" defense? Most of the people who use that rationalization are domestic abusers and sociopaths, so that doesn't speak well to those folks.
It's just all kinds of sly, runaround, indirect ways to justify ideas of white supremacy, and it's cowardly of them to act like their bigotry is somehow someone else's fault. The marginalization on their part is just a projected lack of self-confidence.
Don't act like that statement isn't true.
I feel terrible that they've been brainwashed into victimizing themselves so they can express racism and hatred.
Re: Why I grew to love the Donald and forgive his haters
Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 9:26 pm
by Headhunter
So you think it's offensive and stupid to suggest black people face discrimination in America, but you're willing to argue that white people do? Such a warped world view tbh.
Re: Why I grew to love the Donald and forgive his haters
Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 9:27 pm
by Jason
Headhunter wrote:White people don't face a stacked deck just for being white. Black people do face a stacked deck just for being black. And everyone who's poor faces a stacked deck. The supposed inequality these white dudes whine about is not real. Feels like a lot of people who are angry that a more diverse world means it's harder to be mediocre and successful.
Whites already face a stacked deck for slavery being held over their heads 24/7. Why does the left constantly bring up slavery? Shit that nobody in this lifetime experienced except for Josh Brown's white girlfriend. Zimmerman is an evil white man. Dude is at minimum half-hispanic, but people ignore that. White cops killed Michael Brown, huge race war ensues because Obama slammed them. Even though that thug human robbed a liquor store, then charged after the police officer. White cops are getting murdered by black men for simply being white. This is why white nationalism has risen. Shit like that, and people like you egging it on with your white guilt.
Re: Why I grew to love the Donald and forgive his haters
Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 9:27 pm
by Jason
Headhunter wrote:So you think it's offensive and stupid to suggest black people face discrimination in America, but you're willing to argue that white people do? Such a warped world view tbh.
Explain to me how black people face discrimination in America today.
Re: Why I grew to love the Donald and forgive his haters
Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 9:28 pm
by Headhunter
Jason wrote:zombie wrote:Jason wrote:Headhunter wrote:Also, the "white identitarianism" Jason mentioned earlier is bullshit. They are racist hate groups without the balls to admit it. Funny how they spend so much more time shouting down immigrants and minorities rather than promoting the aspects of "white culture" they claim their school of thought to be centered around. It's just slightly intellectualized bigotry, nothing more. Mostly young people radicalized through 4chan, Reddit and YouTube over the years.
The rise of these white identitarians (yes, some racist!) should be a shock to no one. After years of disenfranchising whites, treating them like a borg of hive-mind racists, singling them out in media and pop culture; the rise of white nationalism is the only type of retaliation to expect, if we're being honest.
if we're being honest, you would be the first, here, to come down on someone for arguing similarly for any other race.
rascism doesn't deserve to be made excuses for. it shouldn't be something that is attempted to make sympathetic or understandable.
Not
any other race. And I am not making an excuse for the violence that occurred. But when blacks march in groups and chant racial slurs, hold up political rallies and steal the politician's microphone and accuse the audience of being "a bunch of white racists", holding signs that say "white people, just die already" and it is glorified in the media, the rise of white nationalism is to be expected. That is no shit. Not only are you getting the racist white people out of their seats, you're getting the good, honest, kind-hearted white people out there ready to make a stand, as well. Obama started this race war, and everyone knows it.
Sound like a bunch of snowflakes. Black separatist and national groups arose because black people faced the threat of white supremacist terrorism all over the country in the 1960s. You're making these white people look pathetic.
Re: Why I grew to love the Donald and forgive his haters
Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 9:29 pm
by Jason
Headhunter wrote:Jason wrote:Headhunter wrote:Jason wrote:Headhunter wrote:Also, the "white identitarianism" Jason mentioned earlier is bullshit. They are racist hate groups without the balls to admit it. Funny how they spend so much more time shouting down immigrants and minorities rather than promoting the aspects of "white culture" they claim their school of thought to be centered around. It's just slightly intellectualized bigotry, nothing more. Mostly young people radicalized through 4chan, Reddit and YouTube over the years.
The rise of these white identitarians (yes, some racist!) should be a shock to no one. After years of disenfranchising whites, treating them like a borg of hive-mind racists, singling them out in media and pop culture; the rise of white nationalism is the only type of retaliation to expect, if we're being honest.
Really, the "They made us do it" defense? Most of the people who use that rationalization are domestic abusers and sociopaths, so that doesn't speak well to those folks.
It's just all kinds of sly, runaround, indirect ways to justify ideas of white supremacy, and it's cowardly of them to act like their bigotry is somehow someone else's fault. The marginalization on their part is just a projected lack of self-confidence.
Don't act like that statement isn't true.
I feel terrible that they've been brainwashed into victimizing themselves so they can express racism and hatred.
You just described BLM and Antifa. Congrats.
Re: Why I grew to love the Donald and forgive his haters
Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 9:29 pm
by zombie
Jason wrote:zombie wrote:Jason wrote:Headhunter wrote:Also, the "white identitarianism" Jason mentioned earlier is bullshit. They are racist hate groups without the balls to admit it. Funny how they spend so much more time shouting down immigrants and minorities rather than promoting the aspects of "white culture" they claim their school of thought to be centered around. It's just slightly intellectualized bigotry, nothing more. Mostly young people radicalized through 4chan, Reddit and YouTube over the years.
The rise of these white identitarians (yes, some racist!) should be a shock to no one. After years of disenfranchising whites, treating them like a borg of hive-mind racists, singling them out in media and pop culture; the rise of white nationalism is the only type of retaliation to expect, if we're being honest.
if we're being honest, you would be the first, here, to come down on someone for arguing similarly for any other race.
rascism doesn't deserve to be made excuses for. it shouldn't be something that is attempted to make sympathetic or understandable.
Not
any other race. And I am not making an excuse for the violence that occurred. But when blacks march in groups and chant racial slurs, hold up political rallies and steal the politician's microphone and accuse the audience of being "a bunch of white racists", holding signs that say "white people, just die already" and it is glorified in the media, the rise of white nationalism is to be expected. That is no shit. Not only are you getting the racist white people out of their seats, you're getting the good, honest, kind-hearted white people out there ready to make a stand, as well. Obama started this race war, and everyone knows it.
nationalism is not the same as supremacy. don't equate the two. obama didn't start anything. people expected him, somehow, to end racism. when he didn't/couldn't, he's accused of starting it. really?
there are stupid racist black people (just like you can find in any large enough group ever) and they should not be celebrated. and they should not be tolerated, even. but neither should racists reacted to them.
Re: Why I grew to love the Donald and forgive his haters
Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 9:30 pm
by Jason
Headhunter wrote:Jason wrote:zombie wrote:Jason wrote:Headhunter wrote:Also, the "white identitarianism" Jason mentioned earlier is bullshit. They are racist hate groups without the balls to admit it. Funny how they spend so much more time shouting down immigrants and minorities rather than promoting the aspects of "white culture" they claim their school of thought to be centered around. It's just slightly intellectualized bigotry, nothing more. Mostly young people radicalized through 4chan, Reddit and YouTube over the years.
The rise of these white identitarians (yes, some racist!) should be a shock to no one. After years of disenfranchising whites, treating them like a borg of hive-mind racists, singling them out in media and pop culture; the rise of white nationalism is the only type of retaliation to expect, if we're being honest.
if we're being honest, you would be the first, here, to come down on someone for arguing similarly for any other race.
rascism doesn't deserve to be made excuses for. it shouldn't be something that is attempted to make sympathetic or understandable.
Not
any other race. And I am not making an excuse for the violence that occurred. But when blacks march in groups and chant racial slurs, hold up political rallies and steal the politician's microphone and accuse the audience of being "a bunch of white racists", holding signs that say "white people, just die already" and it is glorified in the media, the rise of white nationalism is to be expected. That is no shit. Not only are you getting the racist white people out of their seats, you're getting the good, honest, kind-hearted white people out there ready to make a stand, as well. Obama started this race war, and everyone knows it.
Sound like a bunch of snowflakes. Black separatist and national groups arose because black people faced the threat of white supremacist terrorism all over the country in the 1960s. You're making these white people look pathetic.
They waited 60 years to throw a bitch fit? Please.
Re: Why I grew to love the Donald and forgive his haters
Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 9:31 pm
by Headhunter
Jason wrote:Headhunter wrote:So you think it's offensive and stupid to suggest black people face discrimination in America, but you're willing to argue that white people do? Such a warped world view tbh.
Explain to me how black people face discrimination in America today.
White flight in cities, voting laws, sentencing discrepancies all across the justice system, police brutality...
Re: Why I grew to love the Donald and forgive his haters
Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 9:32 pm
by Headhunter
Jason wrote:Headhunter wrote:Jason wrote:zombie wrote:Jason wrote:Headhunter wrote:Also, the "white identitarianism" Jason mentioned earlier is bullshit. They are racist hate groups without the balls to admit it. Funny how they spend so much more time shouting down immigrants and minorities rather than promoting the aspects of "white culture" they claim their school of thought to be centered around. It's just slightly intellectualized bigotry, nothing more. Mostly young people radicalized through 4chan, Reddit and YouTube over the years.
The rise of these white identitarians (yes, some racist!) should be a shock to no one. After years of disenfranchising whites, treating them like a borg of hive-mind racists, singling them out in media and pop culture; the rise of white nationalism is the only type of retaliation to expect, if we're being honest.
if we're being honest, you would be the first, here, to come down on someone for arguing similarly for any other race.
rascism doesn't deserve to be made excuses for. it shouldn't be something that is attempted to make sympathetic or understandable.
Not
any other race. And I am not making an excuse for the violence that occurred. But when blacks march in groups and chant racial slurs, hold up political rallies and steal the politician's microphone and accuse the audience of being "a bunch of white racists", holding signs that say "white people, just die already" and it is glorified in the media, the rise of white nationalism is to be expected. That is no shit. Not only are you getting the racist white people out of their seats, you're getting the good, honest, kind-hearted white people out there ready to make a stand, as well. Obama started this race war, and everyone knows it.
Sound like a bunch of snowflakes. Black separatist and national groups arose because black people faced the threat of white supremacist terrorism all over the country in the 1960s. You're making these white people look pathetic.
They waited 60 years to throw a bitch fit? Please.
They were most common in the 1970s, actually. Of course you didn't know that.
Re: Why I grew to love the Donald and forgive his haters
Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 9:35 pm
by Headhunter
How can you have so little grasp on African-American history while downplaying their struggles (which continue into today)? It's just so absurd. What do you actually know outside of the result of the Civil War and Civil Rights in the 1960s?
But white people face discrimination because they don't just get all the good jobs handed to them anymore. How sad, having to compete instead of just always reaping the benefits of oppression around them...
Re: Why I grew to love the Donald and forgive his haters
Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 9:40 pm
by Jason
zombie wrote:Jason wrote:zombie wrote:Jason wrote:Headhunter wrote:Also, the "white identitarianism" Jason mentioned earlier is bullshit. They are racist hate groups without the balls to admit it. Funny how they spend so much more time shouting down immigrants and minorities rather than promoting the aspects of "white culture" they claim their school of thought to be centered around. It's just slightly intellectualized bigotry, nothing more. Mostly young people radicalized through 4chan, Reddit and YouTube over the years.
The rise of these white identitarians (yes, some racist!) should be a shock to no one. After years of disenfranchising whites, treating them like a borg of hive-mind racists, singling them out in media and pop culture; the rise of white nationalism is the only type of retaliation to expect, if we're being honest.
if we're being honest, you would be the first, here, to come down on someone for arguing similarly for any other race.
rascism doesn't deserve to be made excuses for. it shouldn't be something that is attempted to make sympathetic or understandable.
Not
any other race. And I am not making an excuse for the violence that occurred. But when blacks march in groups and chant racial slurs, hold up political rallies and steal the politician's microphone and accuse the audience of being "a bunch of white racists", holding signs that say "white people, just die already" and it is glorified in the media, the rise of white nationalism is to be expected. That is no shit. Not only are you getting the racist white people out of their seats, you're getting the good, honest, kind-hearted white people out there ready to make a stand, as well. Obama started this race war, and everyone knows it.
nationalism is not the same as supremacy. don't equate the two. obama didn't start anything. people expected him, somehow, to end racism. when he didn't/couldn't, he's accused of starting it. really?
there are stupid racist black people (just like you can find in any large enough group ever) and they should be celebrated. and they should not be tolerated, even. but neither should racists reacted to them.
Obama's first act as president was racially condemning a cop for being white, accusing him a racism because he was responding to the scene of a 911 call reporting that a man was breaking into a home. The man was arrested, threw a fit while being arrested, told the cop "you don't know who you're messing with", claimed the house was his, but initially refused to give him I.D. to prove who he was, which led to even more chaos.
He blamed white people when Trayvon Martin was killed by the half-hispanic. He blamed white police for killing MIchael Brown. But remained silent when white cops were blatantly targeted and murdered for being white, ignored black panther groups harassing and intimidating white voters during both his elections, said nothing about the black kids who kidnapped, tied up and beat the fucking piss out of a retarded kid for being retarded and for being white. "Fuck Donald Trump. Fuck white people, boi".
Obama is a racist piece of shit, intentionally provoking a race war through his political platform that is going to set this country back in race relations for many years. Any blood is on that scumbags hands.